Originally posted by Juntai
And thus, an alternate future since there's a timeline divergent. Similarlly to the one where Apocalypse dominates the planet, or Darksied conquering the universe... It was the future, but something changed it. And now it's not.Go look at fights between Thor and Hulk through time and tell me if you think he could do it without using powers, with one hand. Let alone having Thing help. I tell you now, there's comics out there of Hulk taking on Thor and several others at once, let alone going down to one arm.
What makes Thors feat any more unbelievable than Supermans? thor killed Hulk which imo should have been done a long time ago. Thors feat, according to Marvel was in continuity;period.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it's something, isn't it?
60's and 70's feats should be MOSTLY taken with a grain of salt. For Marvel they may still be considered canon comics, as there hasn't been a definable retcon that I can think of... but its clear that many of characters are no longer on that level... like I said, in the 60s and 70s, it wouldn't surprise me if Spiderman achieved time travel without magic aid. Hell, back then Supes was able to go throgh time/space like a walk down the block. He could even push or blow other people through time without effort.
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Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it's something, isn't it?
60's and 70's feats should be MOSTLY taken with a grain of salt. For Marvel they may still be considered canon comics, as there hasn't been a definable retcon that I can think of... but its clear that many of characters are no longer on that level... like I said, in the 60s and 70s, it wouldn't surprise me if Spiderman achieved time travel without magic aid. Hell, back then Supes was able to go throgh time/space like a walk down the block. He could even push or blow other people through time without effort.
Some of that stuff HAS been retconned somewhat if I remember correctly.. For example... wasn't Tony Stark originally a WWII or Vietnam vet?
You are correct to take those ancient feats with a grain of salt.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
What makes Thors feat any more unbelievable than Supermans? thor killed Hulk which imo should have been done a long time ago. Thors feat, according to Marvel was in continuity;period.
But it's useless bu forum rules, since it happened in a divergent possible future timeline.. It never happened.
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Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it's something, isn't it?
60's and 70's feats should be MOSTLY taken with a grain of salt. For Marvel they may still be considered canon comics, as there hasn't been a definable retcon that I can think of... but its clear that many of characters are no longer on that level... like I said, in the 60s and 70s, it wouldn't surprise me if Spiderman achieved time travel without magic aid. Hell, back then Supes was able to go throgh time/space like a walk down the block. He could even push or blow other people through time without effort.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it's something, isn't it?
60's and 70's feats should be MOSTLY taken with a grain of salt. For Marvel they may still be considered canon comics, as there hasn't been a definable retcon that I can think of... but its clear that many of characters are no longer on that level... like I said, in the 60s and 70s, it wouldn't surprise me if Spiderman achieved time travel without magic aid. Hell, back then Supes was able to go throgh time/space like a walk down the block. He could even push or blow other people through time without effort.
You tell me im not sppose to use classic Thor, and then you tell me I can't use current Thor. Who am I suppose to use?
Originally posted by Skeets
The point is there is no Retcon of the sort.The writers just got more conservative over the years writing such Characters as the Hulk.
Who's to say? How many times has 616 been destroyed/rebuilt/repaired?
Originally posted by Skeets
There is no Pre crisis Darkseid just one who is over confident and uses weaker Avatars to fight against Supes,Doomsday and other....... 😖mart:
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This is getting interesting. So for sh!ts and giggles here is the Blackhole feat.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg
And here is the falling weight of Eternity feat.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
This is getting interesting. So for sh!ts and giggles here is the Blackhole feat.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg
And here is the falling weight of Eternity feat.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
Adding the across part of the solar system punch...
Originally posted by SoleranGood point, and I think Supes gives Thanos a run for his money hand to hand... his strength feats are second to none really, his speed feats are proven vastly more than Thanos. Durability and Stamina, i'd give to Thanos, but not by a drastic margin, unless its something like magic.. All in all I think Supes stacks a little higher in this handicapped fight.
Good thing this is Superman in H2H with Thanos and not Thor cuz that would just be silly looking at the thread title and all.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
This is getting interesting. So for sh!ts and giggles here is the Blackhole feat.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg
And here is the falling weight of Eternity feat.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
So the black hole was miniature, and it wasn't fully released yet. That takes a lot from that feat, seeing as it wasn't a real black hole.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
You tell me im not sppose to use classic Thor, and then you tell me I can't use current Thor. Who am I suppose to use?
There is no Precrisis Darkseid since the crisis didn't effect him but he went through the same thing as Thor and Hulk as being written more conservative and overall not as impressive.
