thanos vs superman (hand to hand)

But Jun, does Darkseid honestly operate at that level of power?? Honestly??
Or has he recently been vastly and unofficially depowered in an inane attempt to pass him off as a Superman villain?? Sounds like the latter to me....How about you?

And DD has no hth skills. He just punches and makes things hurt. So him vs Thanos is always a good match, imo. Superman is the one with decent hth skills. Not DD, the new age brute of DC.

Thanos is, imo, stronger and more durable than Superman. So that puts him in the ballpark as DD. And the last time DD fought someone who was on his level, he died as a result. See Dos.

And Erad didn't handle Superman and Superboy. He hit Superboy, who got up with a lil blood trickle, and then dropped a glacier on the two. And then was promptly ktfo by the Omac. There was no real fight, since Superman and Boy broke the ice with little trouble.
And the Erad that Superman used T-vo on, was not at his average level of power.

And PC Superman had Superhypnotists and SuperVentriqu what ever. Low level mental persuasion.
T-vo was akin to that, but with illusions, constructs and minor reality manipulation.
Not to mention, having access granted to the opponents powerset, while limiting their own access. Totally pis riddled.

Thats not the same as the PC stuff Jun and ya know it.

Originally posted by UniOmni
But Jun, does Darkseid honestly operate at that level of power?? Honestly??
Or has he recently been vastly and unofficially depowered in an inane attempt to pass him off as a Superman villain?? Sounds like the latter to me....How about you?

And DD has no hth skills. He just punches and makes things hurt. So him vs Thanos is always a good match, imo. Superman is the one with decent hth skills. Not DD, the new age brute of DC.

Thanos is, imo, stronger and more durable than Superman. So that puts him in the ballpark as DD. And the last time DD fought someone who was on his level, he died as a result. See Dos.

And Erad didn't handle Superman and Superboy. He hit Superboy, who got up with a lil blood trickle, and then dropped a glacier on the two. And then was promptly ktfo by the Omac. There was no real fight, since Superman and Boy broke the ice with little trouble.
And the Erad that Superman used T-vo on, was not at his average level of power.

And PC Superman had Superhypnotists and SuperVentriqu what ever. Low level mental persuasion.
T-vo was akin to that, but with illusions, constructs and minor reality manipulation.
Not to mention, having access granted to the opponents powerset, while limiting their own access. Totally pis riddled.

Thats not the same as the PC stuff Jun and ya know it.

Thanos...wins?

I never said Thanos is faster or better in hth. Only stronger and more durable, due to what he's survived and the attacks taken to little effect.

What comics did he use it against Apok in, and do you know the Trades it was collected in??

And kryptonians are latent psychics or something to that measure. Thats nothing new, as of Byrne. But T-vo is totally outta nowhere in the application and handiness of it. Thats what bothered me about it.

Btw, can you direct me to all the trades that showcase this powerful, uber form of Erad??

And when did Darkseid ever kill a Celestial with a touch?? Do you mean Millenium Giant?? Cuz Aquaman affected one with tp.....There is no one safe from Drippy.
Or do you mean a Promethian Giant??

And Superman has handled a handful of gods at the same time.....All gods aren't Thor.

In like 1999/2000, Eradicator transformed into that form and left.

In Man of Steel 114, is when he returned and Superman TVOed him.

In Apokalips Now! Eradicator transforms into this form partway into the story and attacks the Apokalitian[sp? lol.] armies/hordes/whatever.

In "The Strange New Visitor" storyline, he changed into the form to attack Majestic.[Action comics 811, Adventures of Superman 624, and Superman 201]

Don't know the Trades though huh? Thanx tho.

Just edited and added the issues for the Strange Visitor storyline. -- had to go flip through the collection.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I never said Thanos is faster or better in hth. Only stronger and more durable, due to what he's survived and the attacks taken to little effect.

What comics did he use it against Apok in, and do you know the Trades it was collected in??

And kryptonians are latent psychics or something to that measure. Thats nothing new, as of Byrne. But T-vo is totally outta nowhere in the application and handiness of it. Thats what bothered me about it.

Btw, can you direct me to all the trades that showcase this powerful, uber form of Erad??

And when did Darkseid ever kill a Celestial with a touch?? Do you mean Millenium Giant?? Cuz Aquaman affected one with tp.....There is no one safe from Drippy.
Or do you mean a Promethian Giant??

And Superman has handled a handful of gods at the same time.....All gods aren't Thor.

You know, you are a pretty smart guy but you have a big tendency to try and downplay feats for DC characters and let it slide for Marvel ones.

Thanos has lost to Ka-zar in H2H. He's also been turned to stone, left helplessly floating in space, nearly killed by Morg, Ko'd by squirrel girl, knocked back by Spider-man, and KO'd by Thor. He's also held ultimate at least 3x and still lost... not the best track record either.

Galactus has been KO'd by Alpha flight, and beaten by the FF countless times.

Firelord has been beaten in H2H by Spider-man.

Plenty of characters that Thanos has "beaten" have beaten stronger than Thanos. Dr Strange is a good example. He "beat" death temporarily, a feat which Thanos will NEVER pull off on his own. He depowered King Thor. Another excellent feat.

Let's get some things straight (and not just for you) WM Thor? In the same EXACT situation, Superman could have pulled out a phantom zone generator or a forcefield, or some other random device to end the fight. He's done it before.

Odin. Nobody seems to have any proof of how powerful Odins blasts were. For some reason...they must be powerful just because they are ODIN. Barely anything around them was destroyed.

Galactus. Superman could just as easily whipped up a forcefield device or have gotten a GL ring temporarily (Hal's been itching to give those things out) and put it up after sucker punching Galactus or hitting him with force vision.

Lastly, unless there is PIS...Thanos will Never, ever, beat Dominus...might as well say he can beat Tyrant (regular or full power) in a straight up match. I've only shown the tip of the iceberg on that character, and if people think the Queen of Fables is bad news...guess what? She's Dominus LITE.

Nobody has shown a feat that Thanos has done that Superman hasn't either matched or surpassed yet. Hence this handicap match.

On top of that, nobody has shown H2H strength feats for Thanos at all. So far I've seen things like "He's Thanos...he must be stronger!, He can't die!(Even though he has admitted he can numerous times) to the utterly ridiculous "The universes have different physics!"

I'm already aware of the excuses I'll hear for each one of my points, but maybe someone with surprise me with great scans showcasing new material.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

Odin. Nobody seems to have any proof of how powerful Odins blasts were. For some reason...they must be powerful just because they are ODIN. Barely anything around them was destroyed.

Galactus. Superman could just as easily whipped up a forcefield device or have gotten a GL ring temporarily (Hal's been itching to give those things out) and put it up after sucker punching Galactus or hitting him with force vision.

Nobody has shown a feat that Thanos has done that Superman hasn't either matched or surpassed yet. Hence this handicap match.

On top of that, nobody has shown H2H strength feats for Thanos at all. So far I've seen things like "He's Thanos...he must be stronger!, He can't die!(Even though he has admitted he can numerous times) to the utterly ridiculous "The universes have different physics!"

truth of the matter is that if superman got blasted by galactus, odin, tyrant(or anyone of their caliber) he would be killed. As much as you want supes to be godlike. He isnt above herald.
i know your counter to this though 😉 but..but superman has been hit harder by more powerfull beings ect blah blah.
That all PIS. Why would DC let their golden boy die?
I mean kryptonite was supose to kill the guy once now hes practically eating kryptonite flakes for breakfast.lol 🙄

LoL this thread........................Superman fans will not rest easy until he is the bestest! lol

I mean kryptonite was supose to kill the guy once now hes practically eating kryptonite flakes for breakfast.lol roll eyes (sarcastic)

^ ^ Exactly its as bad as Wolverine healing from just a skeleton.

Originally posted by Inhuman
truth of the matter is that if superman got blasted by galactus, odin, tyrant(or anyone of their caliber) he would be killed. As much as you want supes to be godlike. He isnt above herald.
i know your counter to this though 😉 but..but superman has been hit harder by more powerfull beings ect blah blah.
That all PIS. Why would DC let their golden boy die?
I mean kryptonite was supose to kill the guy once now hes practically eating kryptonite flakes for breakfast.lol 🙄

Funny how you concentrated on this part, yet simply disregarded the proof part of not just my posts, but Juntai's and any others simply requesting the same thing.

The same thing could be said of Thanos vs Dominus, Asmodel, The Queen of Fables, Darkseid, E2 Supes, Hunter/Prey DD...etc.

"PIS" is right...apparently it flows like wine at Marvel for that one unknown villain who got pretty dang popular after the IG.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Funny how you concentrated on this part, yet simply disregarded the proof part of not just my posts, but Juntai's and any others simply requesting the same thing.

"PIS" is right...apparently it flows like wine at Marvel for that one unknown villain who got pretty dang popular after the IG.

I like thanos but in not harcore into him as you may think. Its just that I noticed tons of thanos threads lately. In most of these threads I have noticed that DC fan boys hate his guts for some reason. So I usually respond to dumb coments of him being beaten by a weaker character. thats all.
Why all the hate? (please dont respond with) Its cause he has alot of fanboys and they dont think he can lose. Lose yes he can, but not to weaker foes unless PIS is involved.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I like thanos but in not harcore into him as you may think. Its just that I noticed tons of thanos threads lately. In most of these threads I have noticed that DC fan boys hate his guts for some reason. So I usually respond to dumb coments of him being beaten by a weaker character. thats all.
Why all the hate? (please dont respond with) Its cause he has alot of fanboys and they dont think he can lose.

Who's hating? That reeks of emotional ties. If simply asking for comparable proof, instead of...let's say...your word is hating, then everyone here is a hater.

I respond to stupid posts too, been doing it this entire thread. 😉

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Who's hating? That reeks of emotional ties. If simply asking for comparable proof, instead of...let's say...your word is hating, then everyone here is a hater.

I respond to stupid posts too, been doing it this entire thread. 😉

all right fair enough 🙂

But don't you think Thanos deserves the respect he gets? I don't mean the blatant fanboyism but he is one of the more accomplished villians in all of comicdom. I mean, even without plot induced devices, he still is a very powerful being.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You know, you are a pretty smart guy but you have a big tendency to try and downplay feats for DC characters and let it slide for Marvel ones.

Thanos has lost to Ka-zar in H2H. He's also been turned to stone, left helplessly floating in space, nearly killed by Morg, Ko'd by squirrel girl, knocked back by Spider-man, and KO'd by Thor. He's also held ultimate at least 3x and still lost... not the best track record either.

Galactus has been KO'd by Alpha flight, and beaten by the FF countless times.

Firelord has been beaten in H2H by Spider-man.

Plenty of characters that Thanos has "beaten" have beaten stronger than Thanos. Dr Strange is a good example. He "beat" death temporarily, a feat which Thanos will NEVER pull off on his own. He depowered King Thor. Another excellent feat.

Let's get some things straight (and not just for you) WM Thor? In the same EXACT situation, Superman could have pulled out a phantom zone generator or a forcefield, or some other random device to end the fight. He's done it before.

Odin. Nobody seems to have any proof of how powerful Odins blasts were. For some reason...they must be powerful just because they are ODIN. Barely anything around them was destroyed.

Galactus. Superman could just as easily whipped up a forcefield device or have gotten a GL ring temporarily (Hal's been itching to give those things out) and put it up after sucker punching Galactus or hitting him with force vision.

Lastly, unless there is PIS...Thanos will Never, ever, beat Dominus...might as well say he can beat Tyrant (regular or full power) in a straight up match. I've only shown the tip of the iceberg on that character, and if people think the Queen of Fables is bad news...guess what? She's Dominus LITE.

Nobody has shown a feat that Thanos has done that Superman hasn't either matched or surpassed yet. Hence this handicap match.

On top of that, nobody has shown H2H strength feats for Thanos at all. So far I've seen things like "He's Thanos...he must be stronger!, He can't die!(Even though he has admitted he can numerous times) to the utterly ridiculous "The universes have different physics!"

I'm already aware of the excuses I'll hear for each one of my points, but maybe someone with surprise me with great scans showcasing new material.

Not so Avy. Thanos lost to Kazar, but iirc, it was later retconned to be a Thanosclone.
Squirrel Girl was a joke and everybody knows it.
And i don't turn down feats for DC and let Marvel slide. I downplay pis, normally, since it goes hand in hand with jobber auras which i hate. And Superman happens to have one of the larger ones, sans Batman and Spiderman.

Thanos gets the strength nod over Superman, due to the fact that he consistently owns those in Supermans bracket of strength. Not for lifting feats, since he has none, iirc.
Drax, Thor, Hulk, Surfer. He treats them like children. Superman has never done so. He's proved superior at times, but never just disregarded top tier attacks. You can't say that he has. Unless, you wanna bring up recent WW fights. And she, imo isn't top tier.

And the fact that Odin koed Surfer with a blast, of which Thanos took several and still stood, swaying though is a testament. I never bring up Galactus getting knocked off his ship or anything like that, cuz i see jobbery.
But Thanos is hella durable. Fact.
Superman flees blackholes for fear of his life. Thanos survived the crunch, though hurt badly. Takes Surfers blasts to no effect. Stood up to Thor with the PG. Until Superman takes hits from a guy who can rip apart stars to lil to no effect, Thanos is gonna appear to be more durable.

Superman can probably take this with a dread speedblitz. But it doesn't take away from the fact, that the lil feats Thanos has, shows him to be the more physically powerful of the two.

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't have to devise one, Surfer's done it for me tons of times... look at the type of shit does- check the respect thread. . .

How would Thanos prevent, under his own power, being trapped and sealed inside of Surfer's board?

Why doesn't he create a billion adamantium swords that fly at Thanos from everywhich direction[as we know it can cut him] at speeds that Thanos can't even react to or comprehend?

Why doesn't use the time powers?

Or his mental powers to know what Thanos is doing and when?

Or. . .?

If he fought Superman like he fights Thanos, he'd beaten everytime too.

Thanos seems to be like the cosmic version of The Batman, where he beats people, and it doesn't really have to make sense, accept in Thanos' place, for some reason people agree to it. While when Batman does the same things, it's PIS, CIS, "He can't do that.", "He's just human".

Back to the topic at hand, now that we've established that Thanos shouldn't even be able to beat some of his own foes, I want you to think of a way without plot devices [tech or obtained power, etc] would he defeat the enemies of Superman I mentioned above? Just so there's a comparison of how they would stand to eachother enemies.

you cant possibly compare bats beating supes too thanos beating surfer, that would just be retarded!!

i wann say im sorry to all i offened(but being called a superman fanboy realy did it and made me blow up) and from now on im not gonna post in a thanos tread unless i think he can win

Originally posted by Sea King
i wann say im sorry to all i offened(but being called a superman fanboy realy did it and made me blow up) and from now on im not gonna post in a thanos tread unless i think he can win

Originally posted by bigbran
oh so its like when bats beats supes, right!?!?!?
but, thanos being over surfer, hes not allowed to do it because, well i just dont like thanos!!!

you cant possibly compare bats beating supes too thanos beating surfer, that would just be retarded!!