Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's all in the Aquaman respect thread, and this was even before he had the magical hand.meh! I would have to call PIS as Galactus never broke them.
And Hulk also punched through a time storm and bent energy like taffy, and broke Dr Dooms Forcefield. Hulk Smash Barriers!
And I saw the Polaris thing, and that's not the hand that was his TP, and Hulk has ample defence to TP.
V. WILLPOWERPsyklop’s hypno-vision fails against an enraged Hulk. IH #203
The Hulk overcomes the Stranger's command to remain motionless. TTA #89
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/1849/stranger27nq.jpgWhen ordered to kill the Sub-Mariner, the Hulk resists the Puppet Master's control. TTA #100
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/2479/puppetmaster0dr.jpgResisting a hypnotizing ray that had taken over an island. IH #119
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/738/mentalresistance146iz.jpgHydra’s machine is no match for Hulk's willpower. IH #132
http://img133.exs.cx/img133/7203/willpower15ya.jpgThe Hulk resists the Shaper of Worlds. IH #155
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/9926/mentalresistanceshaper1a1nl.jpg
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/4828/mentalresistanceshaper1b8xw.jpgThe Hulk overcomes the power of Man-Beast's hate. IH #178
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/775/mentalresistancemanbeast1qo.jpgBanner is hypnotized for around 24 hours (give or take). When he transforms into the Hulk, he instantly breaks free. IH #192
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/5194/hypnosis7wn.jpgThe Hulk resists Ringmaster's hypnotism. IH #217
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/5848/ringmaster0oi.jpgSamson's encephalo-helmet previously brought Banner's mind to the fore... but fails when the Hulk is enraged. IH #226
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/884/mentalresistance010ni.jpgThe Hulk's will proves too much for the Vision, who is able to escape only with help from Betty Banner. IH #323
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/4600/willpower28hh.jpgThe Hulk fights off the Leader's illusion. IH #345
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/6821/leader26rr.jpgThe Hulk's dual nature shakes off the power of Glorian, the Shaper of Worlds' apprentice. IH #355
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/118/mentalresistance119xo.jpgThe Hulk's will overcomes Nightmare and D'spayre. IH #360
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http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3629/mentalresistancenightmare1a1ig.jpgNear death, the Hulk resists the Leader's psionic attack. IH #367
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/5246/leader36ww.jpgThe Leader's illusions again fail against the Hulk. IH #400
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/6897/leader45xh.jpgThe Hulk resists a greatly augmented Mentallo (but is eventually overcome by images of Brian Banner). Later he breaks free. IH #403-404
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/9233/mentalresistance021hj.jpg
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/2644/mentalresistance02a6ku.jpgThe Hulk resists Onslaught's mental control. IH #444
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3213/onslaughtcontrol5vt.jpgWhen Tyrannus tries to use the Hulk's body to kill, the Hulk resists. IH vol. 2 #3
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/4775/tyrannuscontrol3rt.jpgThe Hulk resists Loki's attempt to take over his mind. TTA vol. 3 #1
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/4110/loki8tj.jpgThe Hulk's mental strength overpowers the combined mental strength of an entire town. AVENGERS vol. 3 #40
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http://img145.exs.cx/img145/8526/cometman3pi.jpgThe Hulk resists a skrull telepath. FF#349
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Originally posted by Dalak
And Hulk also punched through a time storm and bent energy like taffy, and broke Dr Dooms Forcefield. Hulk Smash Barriers!And I saw the Polaris thing, and that's not the hand that was his TP, and Hulk has ample defence to TP.
So that makes him stronger than Galactus? I think not.
I even said that, but Aquaman's telepathy was amped up with his magical hand. Hell without it he caused a White Martian to have a seizure. Hulk has a resistance to mind control, but not complete. Aquaman has shown on mutliple occasions to return mutated people back into their humanoid shape, heal the wounded, heal mental minds, etc.
Originally posted by Dalak
I saw the Shark scan previously, He TPed a guy who looked like he was a mutated half-Shark, into a Shark.And I did find the Polaris link, and Aquaman got interruped, and nothing was shown after that.
Yes that Shark is uberly powerful, on multiple occasions has neraly killed Hal Jordan. Even recently reappeared in the new GL series and once again nearly killed Hal.
For the scans that was shown, we clearly saw Polaris was being affected.
Originally posted by Dalak
And Hulk also punched through a time storm and bent energy like taffy, and broke Dr Dooms Forcefield. Hulk Smash Barriers!And I saw the Polaris thing, and that's not the hand that was his TP, and Hulk has ample defence to TP.
Wow, bullcrap much. Hulk shouldnt be breaking Doom's forcefields or Dr. Stranges 😐
Considering that Hulk is nothing to these guys 😉
Originally posted by King_Mungi
So that makes him stronger than Galactus? I think not.I even said that, but Aquaman's telepathy was amped up with his magical hand. Hell without it he caused a White Martian to have a seizure. Hulk has a resistance to mind control, but not complete. Aquaman has shown on mutliple occasions to return mutated people back into their humanoid shape, heal the wounded, heal mental minds, etc.
How many times has Galactus actively tried to break through them? Maybe the PIS was in them Holding him instead of Hulk breaking them. It wouldn't be the first time Galactus has been shown rather low.
And I don't see why people are having problems with a guy that's essentailly made to go through barriers, going through barriers.
It's a simple formula:
1. Hulk want to Smash.
2. Thing get in way of Hulk Smashing
3. Hulk SMASH thing getting in Hulk Way!!
4. Thing no smash, that makes Hulk ANGRY!!
5. Repeat Steps 3 and 4 until whatever it is ends up smashed
E: I'd like to see him healing mental disease and not Brain Damage, and if you do not want to post it here I'd like a clue to where it is before schlogging through an entire respect thread. I copied/pasted the valid section for you.
Originally posted by Dalak
How many times has Galactus actively tried to break through them? Maybe the PIS was in them Holding him instead of Hulk breaking them. It wouldn't be the first time Galactus has been shown rather low.And I don't see why people are having problems with a guy that's essentailly made to go through barriers, going through barriers.
It's a simple formula:
1. Hulk want to Smash.
2. Thing get in way of Hulk Smashing
3. Hulk SMASH thing getting in Hulk Way!!
4. Thing no smash, that makes Hulk ANGRY!!
5. Repeat Steps 3 and 4 until whatever it is ends up smashed
Well look at the list of people who Dr.Strange has actually fought such as Shuma Gorath, Adam Warlock with the IG, beating the In-Betweener, etc. No, his feats show he has gone against far stronger opponents and beat them.
Mystical barrier are far different, I suggest you check out the Dr.Strange respect thread.
edit: Doctor Polaris with multiple personalities, Black Manta with autism which is a mental disorder as he was cured and then given autism again by Neron. Plus look at the high end telepathy feats Aquaman has beating white martian, probing Martian Manhunter, de-evolving the Shark, etc.
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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well look at the list of people who Dr.Strange has actually fought such as Shuma Gorath, Adam Warlock with the IG, beating the In-Betweener, etc. No, his feats show he has gone against far stronger opponents and beat them.Mystical barrier are far different, I suggest you check out the Dr.Strange respect thread.
edit: Doctor Polaris with multiple personalities, Black Manta with autism which is a mental disorder as he was cured and then given autism again by Neron. Plus look at the high end telepathy feats Aquaman has beating white martian, probing Martian Manhunter, de-evolving the Shark, etc.
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Hulk can see Astral Forms, Ghosts, and Magic, so why shouldn't he be able to smash mystic barriers.
Strength 'is far different' than how The Hulk has it manifest as well.
Autism is a PHYSICAL defect, the Hulk isn't one. Shark is a Fish and so is subject to the full power of his TP, a siezure won't work on Hulk the same way with his superior healing ability, and I'd have to call probing J'onn PIS myself.
Originally posted by Dalak
Hulk can see Astral Forms, Ghosts, and Magic, so why shouldn't he be able to smash mystic barriers.Strength 'is far different' than how The Hulk has it manifest as well.
Autism is a PHYSICAL defect, the Hulk isn't one. Shark is a Fish and so is subject to the full power of his TP, a siezure won't work on Hulk the same way with his superior healing ability, and I'd have to call probing J'onn PIS myself.
barriers that stopped Galactus?...no seeing astral forms is not going to do it.
No it's not, his strength is just strength not magical based
what? Autism is considered a mental disorder due to genetics but still a mental disorder, here:
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
2. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/autism/detail_autism.htm
Shark once again is uberly powerful, he's not just a fish. Actually have you read the new Aquaman series? his powers are insanely augmented probing Jo'nn is nothing. Like I mentioned earlier even without the hand he caused a white martian to have a seizure.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
barriers that stopped Galactus?...no seeing astral forms is not going to do it.No it's not, his strength is just strength not magical based
what? Autism is considered a mental disorder due to genetics but still a mental disorder, here:
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
2. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/autism/detail_autism.htmShark once again is uberly powerful, he's not just a fish. Actually have you read the new Aquaman series? his powers are insanely augmented probing Jo'nn is nothing. Like I mentioned earlier even without the hand he caused a white martian to have a seizure.
He twiggled part of his brain and it gave him a siezure, that's not TP that's more TK. How can you physically affect part of the brain from pure telepathy? That's not oging to work on the Hulk as it would counteract that quickly. He's regrown a nice chunk of his head in the time it took a tear to drop, he's healed damage from a Teeeeny Hank Pym to his Brain Stem, and more.
It took an amped Mastermind pulling out stuff he knew about Hulk's Childhood thanks to Doc Sampson to actually get the Hulk. Jean had some problems and hurt the Hulk when he wasn't resisting it in Onslaught. And you saw teh rest, it's not going to be easy to get the Hulk that way.
Now in case you didn't notice I haven't actually said who I think would win or not, and by what margin. I personally haven't made up my mind to the specifics, and I think that the duo take the majority, but I'm leaning towards 6/10 at this point. Mainly because alot of the time Namor's attack on his body coupled with Aquamans attempts on his mind would distract him more often than not, but when it won't work it will make Hulk far too angry for them to counter.
I'm giving the Hand 1 win only, because i think only after Hulk is weakend after an extended beating would it have a chance of working, and TP/Phys Barrages 5.
E: Oh yes, I don't read DC. The only reason I'm arguing here is because there was a thread about Aquaman vs Hulk on CBR and I asked alot of questions there. So far you've given me no relevant new info.
EE: Again: How often have the Bands held Galactus?
Originally posted by Dalak
He twiggled part of his brain and it gave him a siezure, that's not TP that's more TK. How can you physically affect part of the brain from pure telepathy? That's not oging to work on the Hulk as it would counteract that quickly. He's regrown a nice chunk of his head in the time it took a tear to drop, he's healed damage from a Teeeeny Hank Pym to his Brain Stem, and more.It took an amped Mastermind pulling out stuff he knew about Hulk's Childhood thanks to Doc Sampson to actually get the Hulk. Jean had some problems and hurt the Hulk when he wasn't resisting it in Onslaught. And you saw teh rest, it's not going to be easy to get the Hulk that way.
I'm giving the Hand 1 win only, because i think only after Hulk is weakend after an extended beating would it have a chance of working, and TP/Phys Barrages 5.
E: Oh yes, I don't read DC. The only reason I'm arguing here is because there was a thread about Aquaman vs Hulk on CBR and I asked alot of questions there. So far you've given me no relevant new info.
EE: Again: How often have the Bands held Galactus?
Ummm...there are people who have shut people's brain off via tp, and Aquaman doesn't have TK, so your point doesn't work. Actually did you read the issue? he clearly stated he was attacking part of his brain Did you know Aquaman was bonded with "The Clear"? Aquaman also gave Jo'nn a telepathic push so he can disconnect from the Spectre's mind. Aquaman telepathically spoke to everyone in Poseidonis, and can telepathically listen to them aswell. Aquaman's TP is one of the best in the DCU. Aquaman doesn't destroy the brain he manipulates it, HUGE difference.
I never said Aquaman could go that way, but most were going at it in a agressive sense which Aquaman wouldn't be doing. Once again Aquaman literally could detack his water hand and get it to touch the Hulk and heal the radiation. Aquaman has shown to easily manipulate people's mind, hell through his telepathy Aquaman can see and know everything that any sealife has seen or known instantly.
You overestimate the Hulk far to much, even Dazzler just shining light on him calmed the Hulk back into Banner.
The information I have provided is sufficient enough to work here, he has cured mutations, has high end telepathy, cured mental diseases, all in a magical senses
Once is enough, I suggest you look at the Dr.Strange feat going against cosmic entities countless times and yet they can't hold the Hulk? come on.
Namor is faster, more skilled, more experienced and smarter then Hulk. He has defeated him in sea for three times now (Two times were Savage, I think), and stalemate Savage Hulk in land for numerous times. I think if he is fresh from water, it isn't stretch for him to hold Hulk enough time for Aquaman to telepathically attack him.
Or then, Namor who is one of the rare friends of Hulk, would be able to calm him in some way.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...there are people who have shut people's brain off via tp, and Aquaman doesn't have TK, so your point doesn't work. Actually did you read the issue? he clearly stated he was attacking part of his brain Did you know Aquaman was bonded with "The Clear"? Aquaman also gave Jo'nn a telepathic push so he can disconnect from the Spectre's mind. Aquaman telepathically spoke to everyone in Poseidonis, and can telepathically listen to them aswell. Aquaman's TP is one of the best in the DCU. Aquaman doesn't destroy the brain he manipulates it, HUGE difference.I never said Aquaman could go that way, but most were going at it in a agressive sense which Aquaman wouldn't be doing. Once again Aquaman literally could detack his water hand and get it to touch the Hulk and heal the radiation. Aquaman has shown to easily manipulate people's mind, hell through his telepathy Aquaman can see and know everything that any sealife has seen or known instantly.
You overestimate the Hulk far to much, even Dazzler just shining light on him calmed the Hulk back into Banner.
The information I have provided is sufficient enough to work here, he has cured mutations, has high end telepathy, cured mental diseases, all in a magical senses
Once is enough, I suggest you look at the Dr.Strange feat going against cosmic entities countless times and yet they can't hold the Hulk? come on.
He may be able to turn Hulk back into banner, but apparantly, Banner can't be cured for good. ROM already tried that and he discovered that he couldn't change him back because of the endless amounts of radiation in his body. Now, maybe Aquaman is a different story, but that's would be pure speculation.
