Wtf

Started by smiley89 pages

Give the film a bit of time, all we've heard here in the UK is that it did the the best 3 day opening for WB and that all is reviews are positive, although it probably aint gonna beat titanic, even that took a while for people to go and see it and hear how good it was!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That... or the Spider-Man movies were just... better.

This is Superman, the first Superman movie in 20 years. If anything hype should have been on its side.

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I was going to say that.

As for Superman Returns box office (which someone else mentioned)-- it ain't bad. $108 million domestically (as of Tuesday) and $20 million internationally. This comparison from Bluetights.net: the seven-day opening of Superman Returns is tracking higher than the first seven days of Fellowship of the Ring, Pirates of the Caribbean, Chronicles of Narnia, Finding Nemo, and Batman Begins, all of which went on to VERY successful runs. For something a little more recent, SR is ahead of X3's opening earnings internationally. Also, don't forget that at 5 million dollars, Superman Returns is the highest-grossing IMAX opening on record.

Edit: Boxoffice mojo says that it has 119mil here and 20 mil foregin for a total of 139 mil.

I think it might pull another 20mil (conservatively) this weekend, (with Pirates opening) which would put it at about 160mil total.

Hardly anything to scoff at.

Worldwide it will hit at least 250mil before closing up shop, and will make the rest back on dvd.

Singer's already talking about the sequel anyway, but I'm curious to see if this doesn't have long legs on it.

I already plan to see it again in Aug. or Sept. when all the other films have run thier course, and I fully expect this movie to be in the top 5 til then, too. 🙂

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest; $55.5 million in one day, $3 million more than Superman Returns did over it's entire 3-day opening frame.

With a friday-to-friday drop somewhere between 55-60% against the PotC box office juggernaut, the Man of Steel is looking at a dismal second frame of somewhere between $20-25 million, giving it a domestic total of somewhere between $140-145 million. For a film made on a reported production budget of over $250 million this is unfortunately something "to scoff at".

For comparison The Devil Wears Prada, a niche film made on a budget of only $35 million has already made around $50+ million domestic gross.

Those kind of legs don't bode well for the last son of Krypton.

Maybe I'm being a bit premature but WBs probably should of gone with the Death of Superman, as it stands they're witnessing the Death of Superman Returns.

ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

I actually enjoyed POTC 2 better than I did Superman Returns. Both were good movies. But Superman Returns had it's slow points. While POTC 2 was alot to absorb, it was entertaining. POTC 2 does not bode well for Superman Returns chances of reclaiming box office glory.

Many experts - like Premiere - thought POTC 2 was going to be no. 1 this summer anyway. It's still getting the same mixed reviews that the first one got, while SR has gotten more positive reviews. SR will still get past the $200 million mark in North America, and that will be considered successful enough, I believe.

200 Mil = a flop. Superman is dead! They should of waited and made the superman movie with the smallvillie cast.

Hell no. Smallville is too outside of continuity.

POTC 2 practically grossed what Superman Returns did in 2 weeks, in just 3 days.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/;_ylt=AoDdCP8wK4oEWHO9Q6uKDdFfVXcA

The first POTC grossed only $44 million it's first weekend - it ended up with $300 million by the end of the year. Batman Begins didn't have the biggest opening either, but had strong legs. Let's see how the next few weeks play out for both. X-Men 3 had a gigantic opening too; the amount of which will end up being nearly half it's North American gross.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I actually enjoyed POTC 2 better than I did Superman Returns. Both were good movies. But Superman Returns had it's slow points. While POTC 2 was alot to absorb, it was entertaining. POTC 2 does not bode well for Superman Returns chances of reclaiming box office glory.

It's sad POTC is doing so well because almost every teenage girl in america is going to see it just because "it's that new jonny depp and orlando bloom movie." They would see anything will a famous good looking actor in it, and this movie has TWO of them so they're heads are exploding with excitement...disgusting.

And you said something interesting in your post above, you mentioned that Superman Returns has its slow points. The question I have is why is that a bad thing? It seems people in modern american society need something new and exciting every 2 minutes or they get bored. That's not only sad but it makes me sick to my stomach.

btw i wasn't blasting you or your post justing making an observation based on your post

SR is doing bad because the director sucks, FIRE SINGER IMMEDIATELY! Dont let him go NEAR the sequel if there is one.
Those actions sequences sucked balls, watch a few action sequences of smallville an compare them to SR, its pathetic. If they just would have had the action sequences shot better, bigger an more over the top, the film might of been able to make more.
Action clearly isnt Singer's strong point, get him the hell outta there!

Originally posted by 113
It's sad POTC is doing so well because almost every teenage girl in america is going to see it just because "it's that new jonny depp and orlando bloom movie." They would see anything will a famous good looking actor in it, and this movie has TWO of them so they're heads are exploding with excitement...disgusting.

Superman has been building it's hype for nearly 20 years and still got beat out by POTC 2 which only had a few years of hype.

The only reason I saw POTC 2, is because I saw a free screening of it a night before it was supposed to come out with my friends. My friends own our local theatre. Otherwise I wouldn't have seen it.

Originally posted by 113
And you said something interesting in your post above, you mentioned that Superman Returns has its slow points. The question I have is why is that a bad thing? It seems people in modern american society need something new and exciting every 2 minutes or they get bored. That's not only sad but it makes me sick to my stomach.

btw i wasn't blasting you or your post justing making an observation based on your post

They made Superman Returns too much like the classic Superman films. Slow and a little hokey at times. POTC 2 had it's moments as well as it's fair share of comedy. This film was all right, I liked it. My kids found it boring though. So did my 13 year old nephew and his friends. If I were to compare SR to another movie, I'd compare it to King Kong. Both movies were quite long, and both will disappoint your average paying customer.

Superman has only been out 12 days, and its cleared 170 mil:

Domestic: $141,642,667 79.8%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 20.2%

= Worldwide: $177,442,667

I know it cost 250 mil, but it will for sure clear at least 200 in the next 2 weeks.

Plus it will make tons more on dvd since most people (myself inlcuded) loved the film and would buy it for at home.

Plus, 50 or 60 mil of the budget was spent in development for over 10 years, before a single frame of film was shot.

Now that they have the crew, the actors, the director and everybody saying that the next film is coming, they will probably be able to make it for less money.

Either way, we're getting a whole trilogy out of this.

Superman has Returned fools, get with it.
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Originally posted by sithsaber408
Superman has only been out 12 days, and its cleared 170 mil:

Domestic: $141,642,667 79.8%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 20.2%

= Worldwide: $177,442,667

I know it cost 250 mil, but it will for sure clear at least 200 in the next 2 weeks.

Plus it will make tons more on dvd since most people (myself inlcuded) loved the film and would buy it for at home.

Plus, 50 or 60 mil of the budget was spent in development for over 10 years, before a single frame of film was shot.

Now that they have the crew, the actors, the director and everybody saying that the next film is coming, they will probably be able to make it for less money.

Either way, we're getting a whole trilogy out of this.

Superman has Returned fools, get with it.
😎


SR - 10-day total = $126 million

PotC - 3-day total = $132 million

Even X-Men 3 - 5-day total = $130 million

SR Second week drop ~58% to $21 million
Similar drops in following weeks would end up with a 3rd and 4th frame of around $10 and $5 million respectively.

If it reaches $200 million domestic it will probably crawl there rather than soar there. Domestic may not hit $200 million in it's full run if it continues to suffer similar declines. This film will play better domestic than international.

DVD sales vs torrents.

Domestic box office the studio take ends up being roughly 50%. The $250 million reported budget excludes domestic prints and marketing and other miscellaneous expenses.

They'll have to make the second film on less money, the studio wouldn't have it any other way.

Originally posted by NPC
SR is doing bad because the director sucks, FIRE SINGER IMMEDIATELY! Dont let him go NEAR the sequel if there is one.
Those actions sequences sucked balls, watch a few action sequences of smallville an compare them to SR, its pathetic. If they just would have had the action sequences shot better, bigger an more over the top, the film might of been able to make more.
Action clearly isnt Singer's strong point, get him the hell outta there!

So, I guess you hated his work on the X-Men films, too?

Domestic: $144,297,955 80.1%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 19.9%

= Worldwide: $180,097,955

It went up another 3 mil. on a Mon.

I'm thinking that it will most definitely have cleared 200 (here and abroad) by the end of this weekend, and will probably end up with around 225-250 before all is said and done.

As I said before, dvd will make up the rest of the budget and then the profits.

This film is hardly a failure.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm thinking that it will most definitely have cleared 200 (here and abroad) by the end of this weekend, and will probably end up with around 225-250 before all is said and done.

As I said before, dvd will make up the rest of the budget and then the profits.

This film is hardly a failure.

Unless you're expecting it to pretty much match it's opening weekend, and double it's second weekend, in it's third weekend 🤨 I have no idea how you expect it to make $200 million domestic.

These days a large budget film that doesn't make over $200 million domestic is a relative failure. 😬
Whether or not it will make a double century is still up in the air.

Originally posted by 113
It's sad POTC is doing so well because almost every teenage girl in america is going to see it just because "it's that new jonny depp and orlando bloom movie." They would see anything will a famous good looking actor in it, and this movie has TWO of them so they're heads are exploding with excitement...disgusting.

That is so true. Just the other day when I saw it again, there were many teeny bopper girls in the ticket lines, and I overheard nearly all of them say "Pirates of the Carribean" at the ticket booth. It's sad that a great movie like Superman Returns, with an iconic character, a great storyline, and incredible actors, is getting pummeled because a bunch of teeny bopper girls think Orlando Bloom is so hot, or because they want to see the latest "it" girl, Kiera Knightly. 🙁