Domestic: $146,926,451 80.4%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 19.6%
= Worldwide: $182,726,451
As of yesterday.
This film will brake 200 mil. by this weekend for sure, and probably make back its entire 260 mil. budget(if you count both here and abroad) before it becomes a best-selling dvd.
I'm going to see it again in Aug., how bout y'all?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Studios do not receive 100% of the box office grosses. 😐
Domestic: $146,926,451 80.4%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 19.6%= Worldwide: $182,726,451
As of yesterday.
This film will brake 200 mil. by this weekend for sure, and probably make back its entire 260 mil. budget(if you count both here and abroad) before it becomes a best-selling dvd.
I'm going to see it again in Aug., how bout y'all?
Re: Wtf
Originally posted by 113
Is anyone else angry that Superman Returns isn't doing that well at the box office. It's doing well but not where I think many people thought it would be, including myself. It definetly should have done better than War of the Worlds in it's opening weekend. I even expected it to rival Spiderman 1 and 2 in terms of opening weekends and overall gross; but now I see that's almost an impossibility. I loved the Spiderman movies but Superman Returns IMO is better and it would of been nice to see this iconic figure top the box office records in terms of opening weekend and overall gross.
Sadly I think it's just a reflection of modern society, Superman isn't as important to people (especially younger generations including my own) as it once was. Superman used to be the figure that Americans could unite under, he fights for truth, justice, and the American way. Now, it seems, to most people he's nothing more than another comic book superhero, people forget he was the first superhero, and even though i absolutely love Spiderman 1 and 2, and Batman Begins they don't have nearly as epic a story or feel as Superman the characters or Superman Returns.
Aunt May says: "You expected too much. He's not Spider-Man you know" 🙂
What really annoys me is that I haven't received any of the box office grosses from any of these movies. WTF's up w/that? 😠
Re: Wtf
Originally posted by 113
Is anyone else angry that Superman Returns isn't doing that well at the box office. It's doing well but not where I think many people thought it would be, including myself. It definetly should have done better than War of the Worlds in it's opening weekend. I even expected it to rival Spiderman 1 and 2 in terms of opening weekends and overall gross; but now I see that's almost an impossibility. I loved the Spiderman movies but Superman Returns IMO is better and it would of been nice to see this iconic figure top the box office records in terms of opening weekend and overall gross.
Sadly I think it's just a reflection of modern society, Superman isn't as important to people (especially younger generations including my own) as it once was. Superman used to be the figure that Americans could unite under, he fights for truth, justice, and the American way. Now, it seems, to most people he's nothing more than another comic book superhero, people forget he was the first superhero, and even though i absolutely love Spiderman 1 and 2, and Batman Begins they don't have nearly as epic a story or feel as Superman the characters or Superman Returns.
1 Superman wasn't the first comic book hero.
and
2 Superman IS just a comic book character.
Saying that the moral fabric of american society is somehow at fault for low box office showings of Superman is presumptive to the extreme. In other words think before you say something like this.
I've been telling everyone I know about how good the movie is to try and get more people to see it. Plus I plan on seeing it at least once or twice a week until it's out of theaters (I've already seen it four times now). And lastly I posted a bulletin on my myspace account to try and tell my Myspace friends to see it too. I encourage everyone to try and do any of these things if they'd like to see Superman Returns at least possibly get to the $200 million mark.
Originally posted by systemshock2
I've been telling everyone I know about how good the movie is to try and get more people to see it. Plus I plan on seeing it at least once or twice a week until it's out of theaters (I've already seen it four times now). And lastly I posted a bulletin on my myspace account to try and tell my Myspace friends to see it too. I encourage everyone to try and do any of these things if they'd like to see Superman Returns at least possibly get to the $200 million mark.
This sounds like a religious crusade. Why do you care? There have been plenty of movies I liked that didn't make bank at the box office. I didn't lose any sleep over it.
Bottom line, WB knew this film was a falilure and has been ringing its hands since the end of opening week when they realized that they wouldn't make their money back on domestic ticket sales. (Xmarksthespot is right about his financial analysis.) I wouldn't be surprised if several of the execs in charge of this project had already jumped out of their office window. Also, don't forget, $260 million is what the studio spent--or admits to spending--before the marketing and promotional campaign. (Add another $40 million). Go see this movie 12 times! It won't change the basic dollars and cents facts.
Guys, this movie is fading because it just wasn't that good.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
This sounds like a religious crusade. Why do you care? There have been plenty of movies I liked that didn't make bank at the box office. I didn't lose any sleep over it.
No, I'm not really losing any sleep over it either. And it's not a religious crusade for me at all, as every item I mentioned is just really easy and convenient for me.
a) the theater is less than a block away from my apartment complex.
b) all the good summer movies are already out and I've already seen them, except POTC since that looks bad to me. Superman Returns was the best of the lot so there's no qualms with me seeing it again and again
c) it took about 15 seconds to post that Myspace bulletin
d) my friends and family members know by now that I've seen the movie already so they have all asked me about the movie, to which I respond with my enthusiastic recommendation
e) I care because Superman is my favorite comic-book character.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Studios do [b]not receive 100% of the box office grosses. [/B]
That is so true. I had a friend who a few years ago worked at a theater and became good friends with the manager, and from what she told me theaters, over the run of a movie, keep about 50% of the total American gross.
With tentpole movies like Superman or POTC, the studios on the first week keep around 80% to 85% of the gross, with afterwards the percent balancing out so that by the time a movie is almost out of its initial run, the theaters are keeping almost 100% of the gross. All in all though this usually means around 50% of the gross eventually going to the theater owners.
Re: Re: Wtf
Originally posted by meep-meep
1 Superman wasn't the first comic book hero.and
2 Superman IS just a comic book character.
Saying that the moral fabric of american society is somehow at fault for low box office showings of Superman is presumptive to the extreme. In other words think before you say something like this.
1) He was the first comic book superhero. Spawned the birth of DC and Marvel.
2) To some people Superman is MORE than just a comic book character. And i'm defending this movie so passionately because I really think it's an amazing movie that you can really read into. Superman is a character that you can read into, just like EVERY character in any book, movie, or tv show. What annoys me is that people can't see past the nitpicky details and enjoy the really beautiful imagery in the movie.
Nit-picky details like...poor writing, unthreatening villains, and ho-hum acting. You're right, 113, if only people could see past these things!
Look, I tend to agree with you on the beautiful image stuff, but nice pictures and good CGI don't make a good movie. By almost all objective standards, other than sheer hero worship, this movie was utterly forgetable.
Studios count so much on DVD rentals and sales for films these days, the opening run of a film is just to get it off to a good start. That's partly why they have let budgets get so inflated; it's all the additional revenue streams later. This film will have to look respectable for it's opening run, but DVD will get it into the black for sure.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
Nit-picky details like...poor writing, unthreatening villains, and ho-hum acting. You're right, 113, if only people could see past these things!Look, I tend to agree with you on the beautiful image stuff, but nice pictures and good CGI don't make a good movie. By almost all objective standards, other than sheer hero worship, this movie was utterly forgetable.
I thought the writing was very good, wasn't great but very good. Lines like "You wrote how the world doesn't need a savior, but everyday I hear people crying out for one" ...that is one of my favorite quotes of all time right there. And the way they led up to that line was brilliant. I also thought Lex's lines were all very well done.
In terms of unthreatening villains, in the Donner films Lex was set up as a madman and wasn't portrayed as villainous as he is in the comics or in some tv incarnations. Singer is only continuing what Donner started. So if you wanna blast the writers and Singer for making Lex this way then really you're blasting Donner and his writers.
And in terms of acting, Kate Bosworth didn't really sit well with me from when i first heard she was cast, but what she lacked in the film I think the rest of the cast made up for brilliantly. I thought Brandon Routh really held is own in the film and he made a great Superman and made Clark a tiny bit more confident in himself than Donner made Clark. I thought that was refreshing, cause frankly after watching Superman I and II a bunch of times seeing Clark fall all over himself in every scene gets a bit annoying. (Not knocking Christopher Reeves cause he played that part really well, i'm knocking the writers that made him like that in the first place). I thought Spacey had a great performance which is what you expect from such a high-caliber actor, and Lex might have been forgettable in this movie but Lex was forgetteble since the beginning of this movie franchise (to me anyway).
Domestic: $149,580,601 80.7%
+ Foreign: $35,800,000 19.3%
= Worldwide: $185,380,601
It went up another 3 mil. on a Wed.
What with our British friend making a thread to say that Supes premieres today in the U.K., and with at least 10 more mil. this weekend here at home (conservatively), I'm laying a bet that it will be at 215 mil worldwide by Mon.
Any takers?
Originally posted by sithsaber408I'm going to be generous and say it only falls 50% this weekend and makes another $2.5 million from Thursday box office. Which by estimate gives it a relatively dismal domestic of around $165 million. Still nowhere near a double century.
Any takers?
Captain Jack has also pillaged Superman's overseas box office for the most part. It was down around 60% in a lot of countries. In opens in a few more countries - but it's facing the more universally appealing and better marketed Pirates. If there's one thing Disney knows that the WB doesn't it's marketing. Again if I'm being very generous I'll give it another $5-10 million in overseas box office.
So my estimate: ~$205-210 million worldwide.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm going to be generous and say it only falls 50% this weekend and makes another $2.5 million from Thursday box office. Which by estimate gives it a relatively dismal domestic of around $165 million. Still nowhere near a double century.Captain Jack has also pillaged Superman's overseas box office for the most part. It was down around 60% in a lot of countries. In opens in a few more countries - but it's facing the more universally appealing and better marketed Pirates. If there's one thing Disney knows that the WB doesn't it's marketing. Again if I'm being very generous I'll give it another $5-10 million in overseas box office.
So my estimate: ~$205-210 million worldwide.
xmarksthespot, do you work in Hollywood, by any chance?
Just curious.