God loves all of you even if no one else does

Started by Grand_Moff_Gav47 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
According to the Bible Jesus Christ went to Hell (Hades).

Eh, no he didn't. Thats that, it is made clear that Jesus did not descend into the so called realms of Hell. You are wrong and a misusing scripture at an incredibly destructive rate.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Eh, no he didn't. Thats that, it is made clear that Jesus did not descend into the so called realms of Hell. You are wrong and a misusing scripture at an incredibly destructive rate.

http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html

I will take the word of my priests above some website.

I can play the website game too though,

http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/did-jesus-go-to-hell-faq.htm

The Apostles' Creed states that Jesus, "was crucified, dead, and buried. He descended into hell. The third day he rose again from the dead." The Athanasian Creed, speaking of Jesus, asserts, "Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead." Therefore, two of the three great ancient creeds affirm that Jesus "descended into hell"
No." The biblical authors were more accurate in their use of words than some of our Bible translators or creed writers. There are two Greek words for the abode of the dead. (Greek is the language in which the New Testament of the Bible was originally written.) Hell (Geenna in Greek, also called the lake of fire and the eternal fire) was made for the Devil and his minions (Matthew 25:41) and will be occupied by all the unrighteous after the last judgement (Revelation 19:20-21 and 20:10-15). There is no biblical evidence that anyone has gone there or will go there until after Jesus' Second Coming (Revelation 19:11-16). This includes Jesus Himself.
The other Greek word is Hadas (from which we get the English word Hades). This is the region of the dead. Before Jesus' ascension, the spirits of all people went to Hades. After His ascension, only the spirits of unbelievers go to Hades, while the spirits of believers go directly to be with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:1-8). It is into this region that Jesus entered after His crucifixion (Acts 2:25-31 in which Peter quotes from Psalm 16:9-10). Ephesians 4:8-10 says that Jesus, "had descended into the lower parts of the earth." This may also speak of Jesus' visit to Hades before His ascension. Finally, Romans 10:7 refers to Jesus in "the abyss" while He was among the dead. After the final judgment, Hades will be cast into Hell (Revelation 20:14). Therefore, the longer answer is: "Yes, Jesus descended into Hades but not into Hell."

This reaffirms what I said earlier, Jesus did not go to Hell, and Hades is NOT Hell.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I will take the word of my priests above some website.

Since its so much more credible?

Originally posted by Alliance
Since its so much more credible?

I know who they are, what their motives are and I know that they have studied the religion they preach.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I know who they are, what their motives are and I know that they have studied the religion they preach.

The most educated man in the world can still be blind.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The most educated man in the world can still be blind.

I never said the Bible was correct, however, they have studied the Bible and obviously I would take the word of a person who has studied a text in depth above that of an anonymous website who does not actually seem to know anything about the Bible anyway.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I never said the Bible was correct, however, they have studied the Bible and obviously I would take the word of a person who has studied a text in depth above that of an anonymous website who does not actually seem to know anything about the Bible anyway.

Well, I wouldn't take the word of a website, also. And a bible scoller would be more knowledgeable about the bible then the common man. But my point was that even that person can be wrong.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I wouldn't take the word of a website, also. And a bible scoller would be more knowledgeable about the bible then the common man. But my point was that even that person can be wrong.

Yes, I wasn't saying they are infallible, I was saying they are more trustworthy, credible.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yes, I wasn't saying they are infallible, I was saying they are more trustworthy, credible.

Credibility and trustworthiness all depends on what you are talking about. If you are limiting the scope to what the bible says, then I would agree with you.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I never said the Bible was correct, however, they have studied the Bible and obviously I would take the word of a person who has studied a text in depth above that of an anonymous website who does not actually seem to know anything about the Bible anyway.

Yeah...assunming the Bible has only one opinon on everything, which it does not.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah...assunming the Bible has only one opinon on everything, which it does not.

Have you read it?

Most of it.

Originally posted by Alliance
Most of it.

And your conclusion?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
And your conclusion?

The Bible is a collective work of narrative fiction that elaborates upon the lives of a combination of fictional and historical characters to emphasize, explain, and embody the cosmological and moral beliefs of Bronze-Age Mediterranean and Semitic peoples that resulted from thousands of years of cultural syncretism.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God still loves you the big EH (and so do I in a Christian manner of course) despite your tantrums and name calling.

Lighten up pal life is too short to be angry and bitter.

1. that wasn't a tantrum
2. i told you to be openminded listen to other ideas before picking one which you think is best
3. i'm not angry and bitter, and i do live life pretty well, and my life will probally be longer than yours

Originally posted by The big EH
i told you to be openminded

If you're speaking to JesusIsAlive, you might as well shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.

that is so true, i've told him millions of times, he's like Nathan Burke, totally stupid and wrong but thinks he's smart, cool and right

Originally posted by The big EH
that is so true, i've told him millions of times, he's like Nathan Burke, totally stupid and wrong but thinks he's smart, cool and right

Apparently you've chosen to shit in your hand and eat it.

JIA is a fool. If I'm wrong about how you've reacted, please tell me.