Originally posted by JesusIsAliveOh, you mean that get out of jail free card? By that I mean, "I am sorry father." and yes, I know you have to mean it, but seriously, that's the best he could come up with?
What? Your logic is nonsensical and flawed.Therefore, God [B]does
love us because there is an opportunity for us to go to Heaven (that opportunity is made possible by faith in Jesus Christ).We are all sinners (this is true) but we do not have to remain sinners, we can be righteous. If you remain a sinner then, yes you will go to Helll. But if you get saved you will go to Heaven. [/B]
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, seriously, what do you mean by,"for having created me the way He did."
Assuming you are right. Then God did create me, right? He knew that I would exist when he all started it and he knew the way I would be and he knew that it is impossible in the momentary situation for me to believe in him truly. So, by creating me, he damned me to hell, which he also created. I exist and I will go to hell and be tortured because of him. If I go to hell it would have been more loving of him to not create me at all than to make me suffer to it. So, it is for one his fault that it is happening and his sole responsibility and also not loving at all, but mean and cruel.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Assuming you are right. Then God did create me, right? He knew that I would exist when he all started it and he knew the way I would be and he knew that it is impossible in the momentary situation for me to believe in him truly. So, by creating me, he damned me to hell, which he also created. I exist and I will go to hell and be tortured because of him. If I go to hell it would have been more loving of him to not create me at all than to make me suffer to it. So, it is for one his fault that it is happening and his sole responsibility and also not loving at all, but mean and cruel.
What do you mean by believe in Him truly?
Originally posted by Bardock42This actually deserves to be made into a thread.
Assuming you are right. Then God did create me, right? He knew that I would exist when he all started it and he knew the way I would be and he knew that it is impossible in the momentary situation for me to believe in him truly. So, by creating me, he damned me to hell, which he also created. I exist and I will go to hell and be tortured because of him. If I go to hell it would have been more loving of him to not create me at all than to make me suffer to it. So, it is for one his fault that it is happening and his sole responsibility and also not loving at all, but mean and cruel.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Believe that he exists.I could fake it. But even with my free will I can not make me believe that he exists...
Feel free.
Have you ever thought about just asking Jesus if He was real? I know that seems like a contradiction if you do not believe that He exists. But it is worth the effort, if you truly desire to know the Truth.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Have you ever thought about just asking Jesus if He was real? I know that seems like a contradiction if you do not believe that He exists. But it is worth the effort, if you truly desire to know the Truth.
I did, I talked to God, I wanted to believe (maybe I just wanted to be safe, I don't know), but I tried....and I just can't make myself to believe it. It just doesn't seem plausible to me. I have not seen a God work in my everyday life.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I did, I talked to God, I wanted to believe (maybe I just wanted to be safe, I don't know), but I tried....and I just can't make myself to believe it. It just doesn't seem plausible to me. I have not seen a God work in my everyday life.
You can only come to God through His Son Jesus because He is the Mediator between God and humanity. Address your conversation to Jesus specifically.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
In your own words, however you see fit. You can start out by asking Him to make Himself real to you, to come into your life, to help you to know Him as your Lord and Savior.
Okay, I will try.
How long do you think I should wait for an answer. And how do you think it might be delivered?