Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
He needs a miracle .... The concept of the Sentry; a Godlike being with a mental disorder will NEVER work in a universe where morality is absolute,
Since when is morality absolute in the Marvel Universe? You had Tony Stark dividing the entire hero base which lead to Captain Americas death, Spiderman practically making deals with the devil, and now Norman Osborne is controlling things. Morals got flushed down the toilet long ago.
Originally posted by tkitna
Since when is morality absolute in the Marvel Universe? You had Tony Stark dividing the entire hero base which lead to Captain Americas death, Spiderman practically making deals with the devil, and now Norman Osborne is controlling things. Morals got flushed down the toilet long ago.
You do realize that your argument is completely self refuting. You can't condemn Stark for acting immorally, if there aren't Normative Moral rules..
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
He needs a miracle .... The concept of the Sentry; a Godlike being with a mental disorder will NEVER work in a universe where morality is absolute, and the modal power level is comparable to a tank. Even if you put him in the D.C. universe, he's basically Black Adam with the powers of Superman. Been there done that ... Kill him already. Marvel should stop giving into the demands of fans who believe that comics are a sporting competitons between companies.
sentry didn't start out with supes powers and still doesn't. Where is the ice breath and since when can supes make constructs. Black adam is actually two people and consciences. a mental disorder is way differnt. their realy is no other person that is influencing him. There is a lot of potintal he just needs a good writter like mark millar.
Originally posted by jasofisc
sentry didn't start out with supes powers and still doesn't. Where is the ice breath and since when can supes make constructs. Black adam is actually two people and consciences. a mental disorder is way differnt. their realy is no other person that is influencing him. There is a lot of potintal he just needs a good writter like mark millar.
Mark Miller had Sentry losing to some big robot..
Originally posted by jasofisc
sentry didn't start out with supes powers and still doesn't. Where is the ice breath and since when can supes make constructs. Black adam is actually two people and consciences. a mental disorder is way differnt. their realy is no other person that is influencing him. There is a lot of potintal he just needs a good writter like mark millar.
Ok i hate people who can't read between the lines and take everything literally. Do they have metaphors in the USA.
Sentry is insane, Black Adam is insane metaphorically they are simillar
Sentry absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
Superman absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
They both have similar power sets, therefore metaphorically similar.
And no Mrak Millar would be a shit writer for Sentry. Miller can't stand any charcater who was created after 1989, hence his obsession with the silverage. And no his character development abilities suck like a Dyson hoover B.J.
Sentry will not work in the authodox Marvel universe. The only way i can see him working if he's integrated in a loosely continuously constrained book like the MAX series in a Miracle Man/Supreme power esq fashion. And even then id have him written by Ellis, or maybe Fraction, both of which probably think he's a crap character.
The whole insane Superman character has been attempted before with Supreme and that sunk like a lead balloon. Moore had to literally throw away all the original character mythology and characterization to make it work.
If it can't work in a loosely continuity restrained universe like the Image, what chance does he have in the Marvel universe. Even Moore thinks the whole insane premier Super hero idea; Sucks balls.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Ok i hate people who can't read between the lines and take everything literally. Do they have metaphors in the USA.Sentry is insane, Black Adam is insane metaphorically they are simillar
Sentry absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
Superman absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
They both have similar power sets, therefore metaphorically similar.
And no Mrak Millar would be a shit writer for Sentry. Miller can't stand any charcater who was created after 1989, hence his obsession with the silverage. And no his character development abilities suck like a Dyson hoover B.J.
Sentry will not work in the authodox Marvel universe. The only way i can see him working if he's integrated in a loosely continuously constrained book like the MAX series in a Miracle Man/Supreme power esq fashion. And even then id have him written by Ellis, or maybe Fraction, both of which probably think he's a crap character.
The whole insane Superman character has been attempted before with Supreme and that sunk like a lead balloon. Moore had to literally throw away all the original character mythology and characterization to make it work.
If it can't work in a loosely continuity restrained universe like the Image, what chance does he have in the Marvel universe. Even Moore thinks the whole insane premier Super hero idea; Sucks balls.
the point was having a good writter focus on him not just use him like cannon fodder. doesn't have to be mark millar. How is black adam insane exactly. He's sort of has anti- social personalty disorder but not really when we get his explanation for what he does to maritain manhunter in wwIII. He does care when he kills people it's just that he belives it's nessary. In sentry's case he has an actualy mental disorder. it's not the same. As for the superman metphore I don't think you understand what one is or maybe your streaching beyound what i'm seening in the characters. Like I've hear that superman is a metaphore for moses. i can see that too a point. in that their stories are simalar. but what in sentry's orgin is simlar to sups. I'm not saying that the marvel creators weren't trying to make a new marvel superman but the orgin is very differnt. Sentry was not an alien he wasn't rocked to earth, his powers work differntly then supes (he can take power from more sorces then just the sun see the part where he was fighting genis vell) I do see simlarties in sentry and superman. but you could say the same for hundreds of other charcters as well but non except the real rip offs. Is cyclops a metaphore for sups or capt marvel, or wonder woman, or solarus. those characters share somethings with sups but to say that they are metaphorcally simlar is incorrect in my opinion. Metaphore means one thing being compaired to another if you use like or as then it's a Simile. But thinking about it I could see how you could campair sentry and superman I just don't think i would use metaphore for it. but that's me. In short I understand what your saying. I just disagree that sentry is simply an insane superman like supreme. Supreme was just a crazy killer more of the whole anti-social end. To write someone who has Schizophrenia. It's not a just i kill because I can type thing. Just because sentry has schizophrenia doesn't have to make him a killer.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Ok i hate people who can't read between the lines and take everything literally. Do they have metaphors in the USA.Sentry is insane, Black Adam is insane metaphorically they are simillar
Sentry absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
Superman absorbs sunlight which gives him a host of uber abilities; super strength, invulnerability etc
They both have similar power sets, therefore metaphorically similar.
And no Mrak Millar would be a shit writer for Sentry. Miller can't stand any charcater who was created after 1989, hence his obsession with the silverage. And no his character development abilities suck like a Dyson hoover B.J.
Sentry will not work in the authodox Marvel universe. The only way i can see him working if he's integrated in a loosely continuously constrained book like the MAX series in a Miracle Man/Supreme power esq fashion. And even then id have him written by Ellis, or maybe Fraction, both of which probably think he's a crap character.
The whole insane Superman character has been attempted before with Supreme and that sunk like a lead balloon. Moore had to literally throw away all the original character mythology and characterization to make it work.
If it can't work in a loosely continuity restrained universe like the Image, what chance does he have in the Marvel universe. Even Moore thinks the whole insane premier Super hero idea; Sucks balls.
Sentry isn't invulnerable.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Sentry has a very low degree of invulnerability nowadays which sucks because he is one of my favorite new heroes.
agreed it's a huge deviation from what he was originally written. taking the power cosmic to the chest, riping that atlantan barbarian's head off. among a lot of other things now anybody can take a piece of him even the human torch.
Originally posted by jasofisc
agreed it's a huge deviation from what he was originally written. taking the power cosmic to the chest, riping that atlantan barbarian's head off. among a lot of other things now anybody can take a piece of him even the human torch.
Agreed, especially on the Torch statement.
Originally posted by jasofisc
agreed it's a huge deviation from what he was originally written. taking the power cosmic to the chest, riping that atlantan barbarian's head off. among a lot of other things now anybody can take a piece of him even the human torch.
In all honesty, Terrax sucks all around. I mean, the New Warriors beat him for pity's sake.