Silver Surfer vs Doomsday

Started by carver951 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
How would he fight DD the first second? All he knows is that he is a strong brick. He does not know exactly how strong or how fast.

He would know what the population knows. He's an indestructible monster who's super strong and a cold blooded killer. With him having that knowledge, I think he would approach the fight with caution and differently than he would if he was fighting Martian Manhunter or Superman. Personality is still in play which is the reason I give Supes some wins against Surfer. Turn personality off and Surfer kills everyone I've named easily even if they were teamed together. He wrecks Doomsday imo and no, not going in just blasting either.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont know why you keep mentioning civilians when the part RIGHT AFTER THAT have nothing to do with civilians, you sensitive woman. Their PERSONALITY IS STILL A FACTOR. Like I've said, Hulk WILL slap TF out of Superman. Surfer will fight Superman in a different perspective than he would Doomsday. I'm done talking to you about this. About to enjoy my Sunday. Any other mention of this from you, KMC crybaby, will be ignored. Surfer wins this AND he can beat Hulk as well. Now move along.

Run away, idiot 😂

You tried to clip the rules to avoid the important parts, twisting it to fit your interpretation.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why is it spite? It's not as if the Surfer has to fight Doomsday toe to toe.
I literally said why. He's incapable of harming DD. DD is way above Surfer it's ridiculous. If there was two Surfers, it will still be Spite imo.

Originally posted by Stoic
Surfer also knew about Gladiator's weakness by simply standing in front of him, because of his cosmic awareness.
Was it specifically stated he knew this by Cosmic Awareness?

lol. "My Cosmic senses tell me "You dont have a realistic chance to beat this guy. Run from this galaxy.""

Surfer goes intangible and opens a black hole inside of his skull.

Originally posted by carver9
He would know what the population knows. He's an indestructible monster who's super strong and a cold blooded killer. With him having that knowledge, I think he would approach the fight with caution and differently than he would if he was fighting Martian Manhunter or Superman. Personality is still in play which is the reason I give Supes some wins against Surfer. Turn personality off and Surfer kills everyone I've named easily even if they were teamed together. He wrecks Doomsday imo and no, not going in just blasting either.
He's not indestructible. So that's not general knowledge. The general population only knows him to be a stong mindless brick that's capable of killing Superman. SS doesn't know Superman. So he has no freaking clue how powerful DD is. Most importantly, he doesn't know how fast DD is, because the general population doesn't know either.

You are avoiding the question. What exactly would SS do the first 2 seconds of combat before DD decides to blitz?

Thanos is arguably more dangerous and has killed countless people (even Surfer before). Yet Surfer ALWAYS engages him with blasts the first few seconds. Even after that time Surfer blasted Thanos with no effect, Surfer still blasts Thanos the first few seconds.

Just answer the question. Be honest and no trolling. I have admitted I was wrong many times. Are you a big enough man to admit it?

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer goes intangible and opens a black hole inside of his skull.
So Surfer will start the fight instantly going intangible and then trying to open a black hole in DD head? No initial blasts or anything?

Originally posted by h1a8
He's not indestructible. So that's not general knowledge. The general population only knows him to be a stong mindless brick that's capable of killing Superman. SS doesn't know Superman. So he has no freaking clue how powerful DD is. Most importantly, he doesn't know how fast DD is, because the general population doesn't know either.

You are avoiding the question. What exactly would SS do the first 2 seconds of combat before DD decides to blitz?

Thanos is arguably more dangerous and has killed countless people (even Surfer before). Yet Surfer ALWAYS engages him with blasts the first few seconds. Even after that time Surfer blasted Thanos with no effect, Surfer still blasts Thanos the first few seconds.

Just answer the question. Be honest and no trolling. I have admitted I was wrong many times. Are you a big enough man to admit it?

Surfer gets the knowledge of the general population about the character. The general knowledge that Metropolis knows about Doomsday is, Doomsday is a killing machine that killed humans, slaughtered heroes and killed Superman, a great hero. This is the knowledge metropolis alone knows about Doomsday, the world basically knows the same thing. It was on freaking news. General knowledge, "he killed one of the most powerful heroes on the planet by beating him to death and he crippled some heroes using brute strength, speed and durability". Surfer knowing this would be foolish going in circling him, blasting.

I dont understand why you're mentioning Surfer blasting Thanos. You don't do this with Superman. Superman knows how dangerous Kalibak is but he still go in fist cuffs with him and actually gets koed. Superman knows how powerful Mongul is and still goes fist cuff and actually gets koed. Superman knows how powerful Grundy is and goes in swinging and still gets koed. The list is long but yet you still debate in the fashion of "he won't get touched fighting Hulk". Yes, Superman has used his speed in a fight. Yes, Surfer has snatched someone's soul out of their body during mid combat. Yes, Superman has used his speed in combat. Yes, Surfer has energy drained someone in combat. Yes, Superman has used his speed in combat. Yes, Surfer has trapped someone in his board, opened black holes in someone.

I will answer your questions once you admit you're a hypocrite.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer gets the knowledge of the general population about the character. The general knowledge that Metropolis knows about Doomsday is, Doomsday is a killing machine that killed humans, slaughtered heroes and killed Superman, a great hero. This is the knowledge metropolis alone knows about Doomsday, the world basically knows the same thing. It was on freaking news. General knowledge, "he killed one of the most powerful heroes on the planet by beating him to death and he crippled some heroes using brute strength, speed and durability". Surfer knowing this would be foolish going in circling him, blasting.

I dont understand why you're mentioning Surfer blasting Thanos. You don't do this with Superman. Superman knows how dangerous Kalibak is but he still go in fist cuffs with him and actually gets koed. Superman knows how powerful Mongul is and still goes fist cuff and actually gets koed. Superman knows how powerful Grundy is and goes in swinging and still gets koed. The list is long but yet you still debate in the fashion of "he won't get touched fighting Hulk". Yes, Superman has used his speed in a fight. Yes, Surfer has snatched someone's soul out of their body during mid combat. Yes, Superman has used his speed in combat. Yes, Surfer has energy drained someone in combat. Yes, Superman has used his speed in combat. Yes, Surfer has trapped someone in his board, opened black holes in someone.

I will answer your questions once you admit you're a hypocrite.

Many people Surfer fought has killed many people (Thanos, Tyrant, etc). He always engaged them with blasts initially. Just because DD killed fodder (humans) doesn't tell Surfer how powerful he is. Surfer might think he can kill DD was a serious blast. Why would Surfer not think his blasts won't work? He always think they would work on Thanos for some reason or Galactus level characters. You can't give a reasonable argument to how Surfer will know his blasts won't work.

I see Surfer trying exotic things if he sees his blasts aren't working. But the key is that he will try to blast initially. That's his character. He's done it to numerous dangerous beings (as powerful or more powerful than DD).

Also in a forum, Does Surfer beat Thanos, Odin, Tyrant, Destroyer? Which ones does Surfer beat in a forum?

Planet busting blasts will work. Also, I would give Surfer the edge against Thanos which is the reason Insane Titan can't stand me. Surfer kills him. Tyrant and Odin is too much.

It's KMC Carver. Superman will start off every match sundipped and at superspeed and every Marvel character will start the fight off facing the opposite direction, punching the air, high off of flacka.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It's KMC Carver. Superman will start off every match sundipped and at superspeed and every Marvel character will start the fight off facing the opposite direction, punching the air, high off of flacka.

😂 😂

H1, Mongul has killed people. He is currently slaving people and killing them, making them fight against each other until one of them die. Superman is angry, vengeful and wants to take Mongul out. To the point of jeopardizing a mission. They will fight soon. Do you think with Superman having all of this knowledge about what Mongul is doing, do you think Mongul will be unable to touch Superman? If not, will you use it against Superman like you're doing with Surfer. Also, aliens died right in front of Superman eyes here. He was killing them, why didn't Superman become untouchable?

https://m.imgur.com/t/superman/kVzyifr

I'm using what you're using against Surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
Planet busting blasts will work. Also, I would give Surfer the edge against Thanos which is the reason Insane Titan can't stand me. Surfer kills him. Tyrant and Odin is too much.

Then argue that. That is a better argument.
Saying that Surfer will not blast at all or attempt to is crazy talk.

Why is Tyrant and Odin too much? Especially if Surfer does the tactics he does on DD.

Originally posted by carver9
H1, Mongul has killed people. He is currently slaving people and killing them, making them fight against each other until one of them die. Superman is angry, vengeful and wants to take Mongul out. To the point of jeopardizing a mission. They will fight soon. Do you think with Superman having all of this knowledge about what Mongul is doing, do you think Mongul will be unable to touch Superman? If not, will you use it against Superman like you're doing with Surfer. Also, aliens died right in front of Superman eyes here. He was killing them, why didn't Superman become untouchable?

https://m.imgur.com/t/superman/kVzyifr

I'm using what you're using against Surfer.

Superman not using speed isn't based off his choice. It's based off how he written. Sometimes the writer just writes characters without certain powers (like Spider sense) at certain times.

Surfer will choose to blast. It's nothing stupid about that. Surfer can easily end anything lower than Herald level with his blasts.

But It's stupid to see an attack coming in slow motion and choose not to get out of the way, knowing it will seriously harm you if you don't.

It's not stupid to blast, thinking you will defeat the foe in doing so.

See the difference?

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman not using speed isn't based off his choice. It's based off how he written. Sometimes the writer just writes characters without certain powers (like Spider sense) at certain times.

Surfer will choose to blast. It's nothing stupid about that. Surfer can easily end anything lower than Herald level with his blasts.

But It's stupid to see an attack coming in slow motion and choose not to get out of the way, knowing it will seriously harm you if you don't.

It's not stupid to blast, thinking you will defeat the foe in doing so.

See the difference?

So with the 1000 options Surfer have and him having knowledge of Doomsday, you're saying he is just going to blast instead of using his unlimited options ar his disposal? Yet Superman, he will use his speed but Surfer being the idiot that he is, will just resort to throwing out blasts at someone that is capable of killing him? 🤣🤣

How would Thor fight Doomsday? What would Thanos do? How would Odin fight Doomsday? I'm naming all of the idiot Marvel characters because I'm interested in knowing your thoughts. Throw bfr out of the window. What would these characters do?

Carver, read the rules on Speed and superman. It clearly states he would use his speed.

And what would Surfer do?

Dunno. Read the rules 🤣🤣🤣