Silver Surfer vs Doomsday

Originally posted by Magic_attack
He uttered these words after Silver Surfer nearly took the gauntlet as Silver Surfer sped past at the speed of light. That is what he is referring to.

Thanos cut himself off from all input from the Gauntlet. Warlock knew that the heroes had no chance of defeating Thanos. The plan was to keep him destracted so that SS could grab the Gauntlet. It almost worked, but SS missed.

Exactly what my point was. He kept .5% of the gauntlets power which is still a decent enhancement, and was still having a hard time.

Originally posted by Beyonder
He beat one, took the GL ring and beat the rest. He isn't taking Surfer's power cosmic - only getting his butt blasted.

Really? Hmmm...DD manipulated Radiants own energy against him and killed him.

Waverider gets knocked the F*** out when trying to tamper with DD's form. Waverider is also more powerful than Surfer.

Unless Surfer can produce energy blasts on Imperiex prime caliber, he isn't pulling anything off with blasts or manipulation.

Isn't Radiant composed of energy? Something like Wonder Man?

Waverider is trying to manipulate Doomsday's matter in that scan? It isn't very clear. (Not the quality of the scan, mind you.)

Can we be certain that Waverider is more powerful than Surfer?

Hah! 😱 Waverider and Surfer mean the same thing! Brilliant!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Exactly what my point was. He kept .5% of the gauntlets power which is still a decent enhancement, and was still having a hard time.

More like 0%. He said that he had cut himself off from all input from the Gauntlet.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
More like 0%. He said that he had cut himself off from all input from the Gauntlet.

From all SENSORY INPUT. He actually kept the rest of the gaunlets power giving the heroes .05% chance of victory.

I propose that the Surfer would best defeat Doomsday in this manner. Number one: he doesn't kill him, thus nullifying DD's power to come back stronger. Number two: he attacks DD on the cellular/molecular/atomic or even subatomic level; specifically, he places cosmic forcefields in the spaces of neuron synapse. This way, DD's brain cells cant talk to one another, and DD cant move, talk or even think. He is not destroyed, just rendered null and void. Doomsday is macroscopic brute force; he has (at least to my knowledge) demonstrated no defense against, or even awareness of, attack on the levels mentioned above.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Waverider is trying to manipulate Doomsday's matter in that scan? It isn't very clear. (Not the quality of the scan, mind you.)

Can we be certain that Waverider is more powerful than Surfer?

Hah! 😱 Waverider and Surfer mean the same thing! Brilliant!

Controls energy, in addition to time manipulation? I would say thats more powerful. Earlier in the book he also tried some psychic tactic and it failed as well.

Originally posted by Mindship
I propose that the Surfer would best defeat Doomsday in this manner. Number one: he doesn't kill him, thus nullifying DD's power to come back stronger. Number two: he attacks DD on the cellular/molecular/atomic or even subatomic level; specifically, he places cosmic forcefields in the spaces of neuron synapse. This way, DD's brain cells cant talk to one another, and DD cant move, talk or even think. He is not destroyed, just rendered null and void. Doomsday is macroscopic brute force; he has (at least to my knowledge) demonstrated no defense against, or even awareness of, attack on the levels mentioned above.

That is what waverider tried and received "feedback"
DD can also evolve on the fly without death, which he had done more than once already in mid battle.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Isn't Radiant composed of energy? Something like Wonder Man?

Whatever he was, his energy was manipulated.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Controls energy, in addition to time manipulation? I would say thats more powerful. Earlier in the book he also tried some psychic tactic and it failed as well.

Surfer controls energy with great efficiency, but I haven't seen him do much more than travel through time by exceeding light speed. His ability to manipulate time to a certain extent doesn't necessarily mean that Waverider is more powerful, does it?

Both of these guys Doomsday defeated were composed of energy. Coincidence? 😖hifty:

Hmm. Verrrry eenteresting. That impression wasnt given in the prior posts. I request more data to assess the exact method of Waverider's strategy.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Whatever he was, his energy was manipulated.

Because he is energy. Correct?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That is what waverider tried and received "feedback"
DD can also evolve on the fly without death, which he had done more than once already in mid battle.

Your scan doesn't make that very clear. 😬

Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. Verrrry eenteresting. That impression wasnt given in the prior posts. I request more data to assess the exact method of Waverider's strategy.

Exactly what I meant to say, only worded better. 😉

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer controls energy with great efficiency, but I haven't seen him do much more than travel through time by exceeding light speed. His ability to manipulate time to a certain extent doesn't necessarily mean that Waverider is more powerful, does it?

Both of these guys Doomsday defeated were composed of energy. Coincidence? 😖hifty:

Of course it does. Time manipulation on that level makes him much more powerful. For example. De age someone out of existence? Erase them all together. Stop time effortlessly? Add that to energy manipulation and that is quite a powerful arsenal.

Controlling energy with great efficiency doesn't mean much when your energy can alter it and turn it into feedback on the fly. Physically, Surfer isn't doing much either.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Exactly what I meant to say, only worded better. 😉

Hunter/Prey numero tres mi amigo!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Hunter/Prey numero tres mi amigo!

Don't have it. 🙁 I heard Hunter Prey Doomsday was bad-ass, though. 😕

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Because he is energy. Correct?

Correct, Surfers powers are based on Cosmic Energy right?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Your scan doesn't make that very clear. 😬

He tried to manipulate DD's nervous system. What I'm showing you is the result. I don't feel like damaging my book anymore by stretching it wide open for the scan. Sorry bout that.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Of course it does. Time manipulation on that level makes him much more powerful. For example. De age someone out of existence? Erase them all together. Stop time effortlessly? Add that to energy manipulation and that is quite a powerful arsenal.

Controlling energy with great efficiency doesn't mean much when your energy can alter it and turn it into feedback on the fly. Physically, Surfer isn't doing much either.

Agreed. One would wonder why Waverider wouldn't perform such a tactic on Doomsday. PIS I suppose. It seems that Doomsday tends to make people overestimate themselves.

I wouldn't want to see a Surfer vs. Doomsday fist fight. 😘 😕

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Agreed. One would wonder why Waverider wouldn't perform such a tactic on Doomsday. PIS I suppose. It seems that Doomsday tends to make people overestimate themselves.

I wouldn't want to see a Surfer vs. Doomsday fist fight. 😘 😕