Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Very informative. Kudos.Surfer can time travel, and he can take people with him whilst doing so. Couldn't he attempt the same thing Superman did?
On a side note, query: isn't Doomsday somewhat vulnerable to Kryptonite radiation?
I'm not fimiliar with Surfers time traveling abilities. Someone earlier said that he travels through time by going faster than light, but that could only make someone go backwards through time. Actually it's considerably more complicated than that but that's the gist...you wouln't get to the end of time any faster by traveling at super luminous speeds.
I don't think it's ever been clearly stated wheather or not Doomsday is vulnerable to Kryptonite. The experiment that made him was done on Krypton, and that's where he did most of his evolving, so it's possible he is vulnerable to it. However, whatever type of creature he was before the experiments, he was not a Kryptonian. He looked alot like a human baby actually. So that would indicate that he is not vulnerable to Kryptonite.
Also, if he encountered any Kryponite during his early development, and it killed him, then he would be immune to it now.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Really? Hmmm...DD manipulated Radiants own energy against him and killed him.Waverider gets knocked the F*** out when trying to tamper with DD's form. Waverider is also more powerful than Surfer.
Unless Surfer can produce energy blasts on Imperiex prime caliber, he isn't pulling anything off with blasts or manipulation.
How much more proof do you guys need to show you that Doomsday would make a barbie doll out of Silver Surfer?
Doomsday killed the entire GL Corps!!! Brushed his teeth with Darkseid's fully focused Omega Beam before turning Darkseid into mashed potatoes with no effort!!! Beat the living daylight out of superman after superman got all teched up with motherbox, but through superman like hot knife through butter!!! He would literally make a surfboard out of silver surfer!!!
how do you guys not get this, Doomsday is the ultimate killing machine, aside from perhaps magic and taking him out of the time specturm, there's NO way to beat him in his evolved state.
Originally posted by masterbruce
How much more proof do you guys need to show you that Doomsday would make a barbie doll out of Silver Surfer?Doomsday killed the entire GL Corps!!! Brushed his teeth with Darkseid's fully focused Omega Beam before turning Darkseid into mashed potatoes with no effort!!! Beat the living daylight out of superman after superman got all teched up with motherbox, but through superman like hot knife through butter!!! He would literally make a surfboard out of silver surfer!!!
how do you guys not get this, Doomsday is the ultimate killing machine, aside from perhaps magic and taking him out of the time specturm, there's NO way to beat him in his evolved state.
Surfer might not be able to take Doomsday in direct combat, but where there's a will there's a way. Surfer has many abilities that may or may not be of use fighting Doomsday.
Has anyone ever tried manipulating Doomsday's molecular structure and failed?
Originally posted by Jargon343
I'm not fimiliar with Surfers time traveling abilities. Someone earlier said that he travels through time by going faster than light, but that could only make someone go backwards through time. Actually it's considerably more complicated than that but that's the gist...you wouln't get to the end of time any faster by traveling at super luminous speeds.I don't think it's ever been clearly stated wheather or not Doomsday is vulnerable to Kryptonite. The experiment that made him was done on Krypton, and that's where he did most of his evolving, so it's possible he is vulnerable to it. However, whatever type of creature he was before the experiments, he was not a Kryptonian. He looked alot like a human baby actually. So that would indicate that he is not vulnerable to Kryptonite.
Also, if he encountered any Kryponite during his early development, and it killed him, then he would be immune to it now.
Good points.
The reason I brought up the Kryptonite weakness is because I recall reading someone mentioning it while exposing Doomsday and Superman to Kryptonite. Something about him having kryptonian DNA...
Originally posted by masterbruce
How much more proof do you guys need to show you that Doomsday would make a barbie doll out of Silver Surfer?Doomsday killed the entire GL Corps!!! Brushed his teeth with Darkseid's fully focused Omega Beam before turning Darkseid into mashed potatoes with no effort!!! Beat the living daylight out of superman after superman got all teched up with motherbox, but through superman like hot knife through butter!!! He would literally make a surfboard out of silver surfer!!!
how do you guys not get this, Doomsday is the ultimate killing machine, aside from perhaps magic and taking him out of the time specturm, there's NO way to beat him in his evolved state.
How much proof?
Draco
When a not-so-noteworthy GL confronts a rampaging Doomsday, he easily imprisons him and keeps him imprisoned until his conference with the Guardians takes his attention away from the cell:
We'll I guess according to Draco, an energy wielder is greater than DD.
Noob GL > DD.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
silver surfer is so much more durable then superman it is not even funny. do u even realize what his skinn is made of. there only been I think to things that have ever cut him
His durability varies. Sometimes he can withstand black hole level gravity. Sometimes he gets cut by magical/power-cosmic daggers. It's up to the writer.
When a character is inconsistant, people tend to display them when they're at their weakest. 🙁
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Good points.The reason I brought up the Kryptonite weakness is because I recall reading someone mentioning it while exposing Doomsday and Superman to Kryptonite. Something about him having kryptonian DNA...
Im pretty sure that if he had it, he wouldve evolved from that weakness pretty fast
Originally posted by Beyonder
How much proof?We'll I guess according to Draco, an energy wielder is greater than DD.
Noob GL > DD.
from the last frame of that page, things don't look so good for that GL
second, isnt that doomsday the version before he even fought superman when he was barely evolved, thats def not the hunter/prey version, in which case your whole point would be moot
Originally posted by masterbruce
from the last frame of that page, things don't look so good for that GLsecond, isnt that doomsday the version before he even fought superman when he was barely evolved, thats def not the hunter/prey version, in which case your whole point would be moot
Yeah, not good only because "he easily imprisons him and keeps him imprisoned until his conference with the Guardians takes his attention away from the cell," and I quote.
<<We'll I guess according to Draco, an energy wielder is greater than DD.
Noob GL > DD.>>
seriously, you have to be kidding. as ALWAYS, it depends on WHICH state of evolution you're talking about. dd at an early stage would lose. dd at his highest stage would win. clearly, that was an early stage in the scan. a later stage demolished the ENTIRE corps. maybe BECAUSE he'd PREVIOUSLY (ie in the one in the scan . . .) encountered and evolved beyond a gl's energy . . .?
Originally posted by leonidas
<<We'll I guess according to Draco, an energy wielder is greater than DD.
Noob GL > DD.>>seriously, you have to be kidding. as ALWAYS, it depends on WHICH state of evolution you're talking about. dd at an early stage would lose. dd at his highest stage would win. clearly, that was an early stage in the scan. a later stage demolished the ENTIRE corps. maybe BECAUSE he'd PREVIOUSLY (ie in the one in the scan . . .) encountered and evolved beyond a gl's energy . . .?
...with a GL ring. He didn't own them all by himself.
Originally posted by leonidasDoomsday at his best would definately pose a threat to Surfer, but I don't see it as a definite win for Doomsday, either. Surfer has a wide variety of abilities. Some of them could be used effectively against Hunter-Prey Doomsday. Others couldn't.
<<We'll I guess according to Draco, an energy wielder is greater than DD.
Noob GL > DD.>>seriously, you have to be kidding. as ALWAYS, it depends on WHICH state of evolution you're talking about. dd at an early stage would lose. dd at his highest stage would win. clearly, that was an early stage in the scan. a later stage demolished the ENTIRE corps. maybe BECAUSE he'd PREVIOUSLY (ie in the one in the scan . . .) encountered and evolved beyond a gl's energy . . .?
the hunter/prey doomsday wasn't even the MOST advanced. i think the ss could likely stalemate even the highest dd by time travelling or just staying away from him or stalling in other ways, but ss couldn't kill or defeat him. if it got in close with the highly evolved form, dd would kill him. i mean the ENTIRE corps couldn't stop him . . .