Originally posted by leonheartmm
fact is psychology is a very young science with hardly anything understood{there is a LOT understood but its minisculse compared top how much there is to a mind}
Actually a comprehensive study of psychology goes back to the Greek Philosophers, around the fifth century B.C. Plato and Aristotle were a few of the first to speculate about human nature and behavior. So, Psychology can be considered one of the oldest sciences.
I think you need to do a proper study of psychology before attacking it out of hand. Just like the religious people that attack evolution out of hand need to study evolution in more depth.
I think the pot is calling the kettle black and not even realizing what conditonthe kettle is even in.
You repeat religious propoganda word for word and change the god.
"psychoanalysing urself is the first step and uve obviously missed it."
JIA would say <<accepting the bible is the first step and uve obviously missed it.>>
Really, and psychoanalysis is a crap invended by Freud. I really dont take stock in free associations and thinking in terms of sexual desires.
Originally posted by Alliance
psychology is a social "science." Most of the important workin understanding the mechanics of the brain has been done by biologists, chemists, and combinations of the two.
Lol, don't state things out of hand. Cochlear implants were created by physiological psychologists, much of the understanding of brain function and activity has been discovered by us. You can claim this of the cognitive and non-scientific areas, but not of the solid areas of psychology.
Originally posted by Alliance
I think the pot is calling the kettle black and not even realizing what conditonthe kettle is even in.You repeat religious propoganda word for word and change the god.
"psychoanalysing urself is the first step and uve obviously missed it."
JIA would say <<accepting the bible is the first step and uve obviously missed it.>>
Really, and psychoanalysis is a crap invended by Freud. I really dont take stock in free associations and thinking in terms of sexual desires.
I assume this was meant for Leon?
Originally posted by Regret
Actually a comprehensive study of psychology goes back to the Greek Philosophers, around the fifth century B.C. Plato and Aristotle were a few of the first to speculate about human nature and behavior. So, Psychology can be considered one of the oldest sciences.I think you need to do a proper study of psychology before attacking it out of hand. Just like the religious people that attack evolution out of hand need to study evolution in more depth.
plato and aristotle FELT things to be a certain way so they believed in it without being sceptical or putting it to the test of logic. i wouldnt call their teachings PSYCHOLOGY. at the time philosophy{which is what plato and aristotle were really into} was QUITE different and at odds with REASON. if you really wanna understand what im talkin about go and get every single book of bertrand russel you can find and thoughroughly read through ALL of them as i have. maybe youl learn a thing or two, he had most of it figured right. the grand daddy of all sceptics id say and the most influential scientist/philosopher/sociologist/psychologist/psychiatrist and person ofrecent history. unfortunately these days people seem to have forgotten him and would rather talk about freud or marx who were both right and wrong in many places.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
plato and aristotle FELT things to be a certain way so they believed in it without being sceptical or putting it to the test of logic. i wouldnt call their teachings PSYCHOLOGY. at the time philosophy{which is what plato and aristotle were really into} was QUITE different and at odds with REASON. if you really wanna understand what im talkin about go and get every single book of bertrand russel you can find and thoughroughly read through ALL of them as i have. maybe youl learn a thing or two, he had most of it figured right. the grand daddy of all sceptics id say and the most influential scientist/philosopher/sociologist/psychologist/psychiatrist and person ofrecent history. unfortunately these days people seem to have forgotten him and would rather talk about freud or marx who were both right and wrong in many places.
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And Freud isn't all that much respected in the psychological community, never totally was.
Originally posted by Regret
Lol, don't state things out of hand. Cochlear implants were created by physiological psychologists, much of the understanding of brain function and activity has been discovered by us. You can claim this of the cognitive and non-scientific areas, but not of the solid areas of psychology.
u think uve understood brain function and activity? i really doubt it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
leonheartmn FELT things to be a certain way so he believed in it without being sceptical or putting it to the test of logic.
Originally posted by "JesusIsAlive"
if you really wanna understand what leonheartmn is talkin about go and get every single Bible you can find and thoughroughly read through ALL of them as i have. maybe youl learn a thing or two, he had most of it figured right.
your position = religious position
Originally posted by leonheartmm
u think uve understood brain function and activity? i really doubt it.
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You obviously don't know the first thing about psychology, and what has occurred in science in the area of the brain and understanding of how it functions.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
notice how u just called it psychological COMMUNITY. it has become rather like a relegious community hasnt it, with taboos and traditions instead of the open minded search for truths and new realities and accepting change with reason.
I tire of this debate. Go and discuss matters with your compatriots. There are plenty of religious zealots here that will agree with your attacks.
Originally posted by Alliance
your position = religious position
dum dum dum. i FELT things to be the OPPOSITE way of what i found them out to be. as i said i was and still am to a great deal a sceptic and it doesnt fare great when u see that there is more to the world than physical certainties but as i am a RATIONAL person too i cudnt deny very sound evidence and HAD to acceot it going by principle.
secondly if i HAVENT read the bible and wish to challenge a christian i would be in the wrong and wouldnt have much real reason for challenging him/her in the first place as i cudnt disagree with their position without even knowing what the bible says on the subject. so indeed i SHOULD go out and read the whole of it or significant amount to find the main contradictions etc. all I said was that u should read all of bertrand russell's works to understand what im saying. so my stance is anything BUT relegious. or similar.
Originally posted by Regret
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You obviously don't know the first thing about psychology, and what has occurred in science in the area of the brain and understanding of how it functions.
I tire of this debate. Go and discuss matters with your compatriots. There are plenty of religious zealots here that will agree with your attacks.
i dont? really? how can u tell? im quite into psychology thankyou and probably know the workings of the brain far better thanyou my narrow minded rude friend. besides ur use of words is rather interesting "i tire of this debate" ur speaking like an arrogant/ignorant king" needless to say ur not gonna get anywhere in psychology with that attitude. not really. perhaps ull earn fame in the community as u call it as all communities love taboo following slaves.
Originally posted by Regret
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And Freud isn't all that much respected in the psychological community, never totally was.
That isn't completly true, while his theories are mostly suprassed or replaced now by others with more value to the field (seen as more accurate) he is respected for the work he did, and certain processes he formulated. So while modern day psychology doesn't treat his works as gospal, they still recgnise he was a necessary part of the evolution of psychology.
I like to think of him as that kind of dodgy great, great etc grandfather/uncle every family seems to have, who they dsicribe as "oh he was a good man, did good for the family, even if he was a bit, well, eccentric"