Originally posted by debbiejo
Paul worshiper.
1 Peter 4:14
If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.
Matthew 5:11-13
“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Luke 6:22-24
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.
2 Corinthians 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]1 Peter 4:14
If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.Matthew 5:11-13
“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven , for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Luke 6:22-24
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.2 Corinthians 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.[/B
These verses are not saying Call on god to be saved like the other verses below...
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Nope, wrong answer. Good people go to Hell. Saved people get into Heaven. How do you get saved?[B]Romans 10:9-10,13
that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.Romans 10:13
For "Whoever calls on the Name of the Lord [Jesus Christ] shall be saved."1. God says you must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that He (God) has raised Him (Jesus Christ) from the dead, and you will be saved. You will be forgiven for all your sins, and declared to be righteous to go to Heaven.
2. Whoever calls on the Name of Lord Jesus Christ for salvation shall be saved. Whoever sincerely believes in, depends on, and trusts in Jesus Christ with all their heart will be saved. Ask Jesus Christ to save you from your sins, to declare you to be righteous, and to give you everlasting life. Thank Jesus for forgiving you for all of your sins, for declaring you to be righteous, for making
you good enough to go to Heaven, and for dying to pay for your sins.Say this prayer from your heart:
Lord Jesus, I confess that You are Lord, and I believe with all of my heart that God raised You from the dead. I call upon Your Name for salvation. Also Lord Jesus, I repent from all of my sins. Thank You for saving me and giving me everlasting life now. [/B]
See what Paul did????
Originally posted by debbiejo
This is a false teaching....As fece said, it goes against the OT, and besides Jesus never taught it..This is a new teaching put forth by men, not god.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have gall, unmitigated gall, to talk about what is false teaching based on all of the things that you have said.Show me by the Bible that what I have written is false, just saying it does not make it so. I have shown you by God's Word that your statements are indeed false teaching and beyond that even heresy and anti-biblical.
Originally posted by debbiejo
You can have that now....You don't need anyone to give it to you....Mithra also died to give you these things.....
Originally posted by debbiejo
You're one too.......anyone one that does not profess Jesus is the Messiah and is Lord (btw Lord was used to mean many things back then), and that Jeus is not god is Anti Christ.......meaning against Christ...Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright
Originally posted by debbiejo
And I have posted my views on what I've studied hell to really mean along with Gehenna (which is an actual place here on earth), and yes, that leaves you with that question....WHAT ARE YOU BEING SAVED FROM????...........Answer: Nothing.....nothing to be saved from....And yes I have read the KJV, Geneva (with reformer notes) the Vulgate with translation, the NIV......etc.....and Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic Linear translated concordance...
Originally posted by debbiejo
Hell and hades only mean grave. You are quoting from Acts which Paul had wrote, and he was influenced by Mithraism. It's all throughout his teachings......Paul is concidered a heretic by the Jews. At least they concider Jesus a teacher.Also, how would you explain the verse "The spirit returns to god that gave it?"...........Sounds like all go back to where they came....
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12:7. And the dust return into its earth, from whence it was, and the spirit return to God, who gave it.
Et revertatur pulvis in terram suam unde erat et spiritus redeat ad Deum qui dedit illumPaul corrupted the scriptures of the OT and Jesus' teachings.
Originally posted by debbiejo
There are no sins.......And even if there were, what? I'm gonna be saved from an imaginary place??ps. Hi cking. You sure are quite...
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Originally posted by debbiejo
You don't know that Jesus Christ is the true god as was stated on other threads.........What Jesus taught as many did was to love and not judge others,.,...and let your actions speak for themselves.......btw, I don't believe Jesus ever said HE WAS THE TRUE GOD!!........Yet I have nothing against you all Christians because I do believe you feel you are trying to save us from the flames of hell, and that is noble.......yet hell isn't a real place..........
Originally posted by debbiejo
This sounds like the church....and yes the prophets were also a type of sorcerer....they were divining what they saw as truth....
Originally posted by debbiejo
I believe anyone can perform types of miracles.....It's been done all throughout history....You can do it in the name of Yoda if you want to....It's just that you believe....."The power of intention" 😎
Originally posted by debbiejo
Then demons must be good cause they are exhibiting a fruit of the spirit : compassion....BTW digging up for a road in the Detroit Metro area was discovered a Mammoth skeleton just of late....
Originally posted by debbiejo
whos's to say your god isn't the same as the other god(s) or if there is something bigger than a book, and a book of human faulted rules.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I haven't been on a lot lately, but don't seem to remember you attacking others not of your faith, if so, I'm sure we will now here it........btw, I was quite a believer, in fact I used to say this one little prayer always "Jesus, don't let me not believe in all you did.".............And now, I don't believe it............did he forget me, or did I find out something that was the real truth...........If Jesus was and is god, would he not have answered that prayer.???I know all about the teachings of the end times............don't you think I WOULD REALLY WANT TO BE SURE!!.....Before I changed my belief?
Originally posted by debbiejo
You didn't...........I'm used to it now....I already know your truth.......I lived it all my life.....I dismiss it now..... 🙂
Originally posted by debbiejo
The real point is Paul and Constantine made Jesus god, not Jesus himself.........and those last scriptures showed the different from Paul compared to Jesus.
Can you explain or at least clarify these heretical remarks that you have made Debbiejoe?
Originally posted by Allianceyes, yes, yes.......
"heretical" 😆 Jesus is a pagan god and Christianity is a false religion.How's that for heretical?
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Though there could of been a Jesus, but not the one Paul speaks of....maybe more like Buddha...........Anyway, more to some inlightenment...
Hey, where's shaky........JIA take him off your ignore list.... 🙄
Originally posted by peejaydI believe that Jesus told great truths such as others did. Their message really consisted of one main thing...LOVE...
* yet you said you believe in the non-Bible "Jesus"... where do you stand, really? 😕
The Jesus Paul taught is NOT the same Jesus. And like I said the Jews of today know that Paul was a heretic of the faith of Judaism, but they felt Jesus was a teacher. The Jesus that I see is one that teaches us to get to know god, to have this inner god in us and live a life that is heaven and not what hell is...(weeping and gnashing of teeth)...
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! , lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:20-21, KJV
Had we read this verse in the Greek language, we would have no difficulty with it. Since few of us have proficiency in Greek, we must rely on the faithfulness of unconverted translators to give us a true rendition of the original. At times, though, our trust is sorely abused, as in this verse.
"Within" is translated from entos, used only twice in the New Testament. Its primary meaning is "inside," as it is rendered in Matthew 23:26: "Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also." However, when used in conjunction with a plural noun, entos means "among" or "in the midst of." In Luke 17:21, entos is used with "you," and from the context, we can see that Jesus was speaking to a crowd of Pharisees, who had come to question Him about the Kingdom of God (verse 20). "You," then, is plural. "The kingdom of God is among you" is best.