You all seem to think that Christians hate homosexuals. This is simply not true. God loves all people no matter what they do. However, God wants people to turn from their wicked ways (ie. lying, homosexuality, slander, etc.). Heterosexual liars are as guilty of sin as homosexuals. It is repentance that God desires. When Christians argue about what is sin it is not to condemn them, but rather to show them ways in which they can change to better please God. God wants EVERYONE to repentance for ALL have sinned.
God wants slaves...plain and simple.
Originally posted by Nellinator
You all seem to think that Christians hate homosexuals.
"wicked ways" Please. After the musical Wicked that word is so laced with political tones its rediculous.
And besides...you may claim that your "god" "loves" homosexuals....but you clearly don't.
But, I do. I want to see everyone of them in heaven. Just having repented of their homosexual sins. They are deserving of love. Just as love people who have lied to me, deceived me, betrayed me, attacked me, hurt me, or abandoned me. Homosexuality is sin, but homosexuals are not an abomination because they are still made in God's image.
Originally posted by Nellinator
But, I do. I want to see everyone of them in heaven. Just having repented of their homosexual sins. They are deserving of love. Just as love people who have lied to me, deceived me, betrayed me, attacked me, hurt me, or abandoned me. Homosexuality is sin, but homosexuals are not an abomination because they are still made in God's image.
I don't think they are abominations. I think they they deserve equality and the right to live their lives. And somehow I don't think them just being homosexuals should put them in the group of people who have done you wrong but whom you love anyway.
But the Bible, which some seem to take as infallible, claims they are abominations. And besides, by some of the logic (or lack of) around the forum of late, by rights a gay person should be allowed to be homosexual up till just before their death, at which point they can repent and be saved!
And everybody is happy! The homosexuals get to live a full homosexual life, God gets to add their souls to his collection when they repent on their death bed... it's win win!
Originally posted by Nellinator
But, I do. I want to see everyone of them in heaven. Just having repented of their homosexual sins. They are deserving of love. Just as love people who have lied to me, deceived me, betrayed me, attacked me, hurt me, or abandoned me. Homosexuality is sin, but homosexuals are not an abomination because they are still made in God's image.
You wan to see everyone be YOUR way. Thats the point. You only love them because you feel that you love can change them to YOUR way.
Thats wrong, imo. I also thing its wrong on a very core level.
Not specifically. I dont believe that EVERY belief is acceptable...but there is a very wide acceptable range.
Mostly it is this. To survive in my world, you need to figure out how to make common policy in the context of plurality.
This wolrd is about PLURALISM and you acceptacnce of it. Har-liners cant do that.
But its somewhat like one of those paradoxes....like can you hate haters?
Originally posted by Alliance
Not specifically. I dont believe that EVERY belief is acceptable...but there is a very wide acceptable range.Mostly it is this. To survive in my world, you need to figure out how to make common policy in the context of plurality.
This wolrd is about PLURALISM and you acceptacnce of it. Har-liners cant do that.
But its somewhat like one of those paradoxes....like can you hate haters?
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Originally posted by Alliance
You wan to see everyone be YOUR way. Thats the point. You only love them because you feel that you love can change them to YOUR way.Thats wrong, imo. I also thing its wrong on a very core level.
No he doesn't, his way is Jesus' way. Christians are not here to propagate THEIR way. Our ONLY way is Jesus' way. We are here to present and disseminate the only true Way--Jesus Christ.
Acts 9:2
and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way , whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way , the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Aside from anything else, that was simple pedanticism. If you follow Jesus' way, then his way is your way, by any traditional use of language.It is very poor to dispute such a point on such absurd technicalities, Jesusisalive. Please answer Alliance's point properly.
No thanks, I will leave that to other people. Alliance has crossed the line in my opinion as far as some things that he has said. I will not reply to any more of his posts. I hate to single him out like this.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Aside from anything else, that was simple pedanticism. If you follow Jesus' way, then his way is your way, by any traditional use of language.It is very poor to dispute such a point on such absurd technicalities, Jesusisalive. Please answer Alliance's point properly.
You're not picking on me are you Ushgarak, buddy ole' pal, friend to the bitter end?🙄