The fool has said in his/her heart there is no God

* another contradiction came from different timelines: Patriarch, Mosaic and Christianity... take note the stubbornness of the Jews to adjust from Mosaic to Christianity... they always preach the law of Moses which was amended and revised perfectly by Christ...

So... Are the Jews still God's chosen people?

And what were the primary changes Christianity made to Mosaic law - after all, that includes the ten commandments and God's attitudes to gay people, women and so on - Mosaic law being a big part of the black and white mentality of modern day Christians: How much should modern day Christians have abandoned of Mosaic law?

Well the Mosaic Law was under the old covenant, and we are under the new one through faith, so to some extent we should not follow them as Christians

Originally posted by Alliance
Someone's been watching too much Robin Williams

Yeah, yeah I have. 😮

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So... Are the Jews still God's chosen people?

* not anymore... Christ said...

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof ."
Matthew 21:43

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And what were the primary changes Christianity made to Mosaic law - after all, that includes the ten commandments

* i'll give you an example...

* law of Moses:

"Thou shalt not kill ."
Exodus 20:13

"Ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:"
Matthew 5:21

* law of Christ:

"But I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire ."
Matthew 5:22

* hope you see the difference...

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
and God's attitudes to gay people, women and so on - Mosaic law being a big part of the black and white mentality of modern day Christians: How much should modern day Christians have abandoned of Mosaic law?

* practically, the New Testament contains revisions and amendments of Christ... we should stick with the law of Christ rather than that of Moses...

"And by him every one that believeth is justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses ."
The Acts 13:39

* okay? 😉

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So... Are the Jews still God's chosen people?

And what were the primary changes Christianity made to Mosaic law - after all, that includes the ten commandments and God's attitudes to gay people, women and so on - Mosaic law being a big part of the black and white mentality of modern day Christians: How much should modern day Christians have abandoned of Mosaic law?

Christs teachings are not a disavowing of Mosaic law. They are a clarification and, imo, a more difficult version of the same teachings. Mosaic dealt only with the act, Christ's deals with motivation, intent, and premeditation.

Following the teachings of Christ, one will not break Mosaic law. Therefore it does not conflict with Mosaic law.

The only thing that changed in the Law of Moses is that we can eat whatever we want without becoming 'unclean'.

....and the sellgin your daughter into slavery....and wearing clothing made from two types of fabric....and treating mildew...and....

Originally posted by Regret
Christs teachings are not a disavowing of Mosaic law. They are a clarification and, imo, a more difficult version of the same teachings. Mosaic dealt only with the act, Christ's deals with motivation, intent, and premeditation.

Following the teachings of Christ, one will not break Mosaic law. Therefore it does not conflict with Mosaic law.

The only LAW disciples of Christ (i.e., Christians) are under is the LAW OF LOVE because love is the fulfillment OF THE LAW OF MOSES. You see, you do not have to tell someone, 'Thou shalt not...because if you LOVED that person then you wouldn't steal from them, covet what they have, murder them, etc.

Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The only LAW disciples of Christ (i.e., Christians) are under is the LAW OF LOVE because love is the fulfillment OF THE LAW OF MOSES. You see, you do not have to tell someone, 'Thou shalt not...because if you LOVED that person then you wouldn't steal from them, covet what they have, murder them, etc.

[B]Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [/B]

Not all Christains are good, some are evil.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not all Christains are good, some are evil.

That does not change the truth though.
"Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:2

The Christians must constantly strive to improve them themselves according to God's will and repent of their sins. As they grow closer to God and surrender themselves to His will, love will naturally become apart of them and will be evident to non-believers. This is God's will, but Christians are not always perfect and that is why they need God's grace.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That does not change the truth though.
"Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:2

The Christians must constantly strive to improve them themselves according to God's will and repent of their sins. As they grow closer to God and surrender themselves to His will, love will naturally become apart of them and will be evident to non-believers. This is God's will, but Christians are not always perfect and that is why they need God's grace.

I do not disagree with you, I am only pointing out to those who think contrary that some people who claim the title of Christian are in fact evil. There are some who arrogantly believe that all Christians are good and righteous, and that all others are evil. The truth is that all people can be good or evil depending on the actions they take. Because you are a Christian does not mean that you cannot do evil. So, we all should be humble for we are all in the same boat.

Yes, being humble is very important and even commanded by God. We can not enter heaven without humility. "I tell you the truth, unless, you change and become like little children, you never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like [a] child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18:3-4

Many Christians are evil and fail to recognize whom they are serving (God or themselves), but I think that maybe on Judgement Day God will forget them to as in Matthew 7:23.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes, being humble is very important and even commanded by God. We can not enter heaven without humility. "I tell you the truth, unless, you change and become like little children, you never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like [a] child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18:3-4

Many Christians are evil and fail to recognize whom they are serving (God or themselves), but I think that maybe on Judgement Day God will forget them to as in Matthew 7:23.

Well, I am glad that you have said that. I wish you great happiness.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The only LAW disciples of Christ (i.e., Christians) are under is the LAW OF LOVE because love is the fulfillment OF THE LAW OF MOSES. You see, you do not have to tell someone, 'Thou shalt not...because if you LOVED that person then you wouldn't steal from them, covet what they have, murder them, etc.

[B]Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [/B]

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

If a man follows these two commandments then he cannot break the law of the prophets. If you break any of the laws of the prophets you have broken at least one of these two.

American Heritage Dictionary
Fulfillment

TRANSITIVE VERB:
ful·filled , ful·fill·ing , ful·fills , also ful·fils
1 To bring into actuality; effect: fulfilled their promises.
2 To carry out (an order, for example).
3 To measure up to; satisfy. See Synonyms at perform, satisfy.
4 To bring to an end; complete.

Galatians 5:14
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Fulfilled in this verse does not mean brought to an end. It means "all the law is brought to actuality in one word, even this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself" or "all the law is carried out in one word, even in this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself." This does not end the need for obedience to the laws, Christ never taught that. Same can be said of Romans 13:10. Many Christians try to shirk the requirements the Bible places on them by misinterpreting these verses.

Originally posted by peejayd
there are contradictions... what are the contradictions?

They killed some unbelievers. The ones that were stopping them from taking the promised land. They did not simply butcher innocent women and children every day because they were pagan. The Sabbath is a day of rest taken once a week. That has always been the truth. Women could preach in the OT, look at Deborah one of the best judges (ruler of Israel without an official office).

Yes, see the differences between the OT and NT...It's like a different god with how it ordered people what to do.....And of course I know about Deborah... 😊

In the OT they did butcher innocent people along with stupid animals....what the heck did they do...eat grass and moo??.....what an awful sin.....Oh, and the Sabbath was never changed by Jesus...

you can still kill people in the NT....look at homosexuals.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not disagree with you, I am only pointing out to those who think contrary that some people who claim the title of Christian are in fact evil. There are some who arrogantly believe that all Christians are good and righteous, and that all others are evil. The truth is that all people can be good or evil depending on the actions they take. Because you are a Christian does not mean that you cannot do evil. So, we all should be humble for we are all in the same boat.

* even the holiest man sinneth...

"Surely there is not a righteous man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not."
Ecclesiastes 7:20

* true Christians sinneth... sinners are far different from wicked and evil... 😉

Originally posted by debbiejo
According to scripture GOD CHANGES NOT! So, what's the whole thing with the Sabbath being changed, the change in what you can eat, what a person can wear, what women could and could not do ie preach, the feasts, from killing unbelievers in the OT to not killing them in the NT....etc.....

* as we go on reading the New Testament, you will see this from Christ:

"Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Matthew 5:48

* Christians strive to perfection as Christ commanded...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes, see the differences between the OT and NT...It's like a different god with how it ordered people what to do.....And of course I know about Deborah... 😊

* let's see...

"Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection.
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness."
I Timothy 2:11-12

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law."
I Corinthians 14:34

* it does not say, "all women"... in fact:

"But I commend to you Phoebe, our sister, who is minister of the assembly which is in Cenchrea;"
The Romans 16:1
Darby Bible

"I have good things to say about Phoebe, who is a leader in the church at Cenchreae."
The Romans 16:1
Contemporary English Version

* do these verses contradict the first? nope...

"If any man speaketh in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and that in turn; and let one interpret:
But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church ; and let him speak to himself, and to God."
I Corinthians 14:27-28

* even men are commanded to keep silent if no one can interpret...

Originally posted by debbiejo
In the OT they did butcher innocent people along with stupid animals....what the heck did they do...eat grass and moo??.....what an awful sin.....Oh, and the Sabbath was never changed by Jesus...

* the law of Sabbath prohibits all concerned to do ANY kind of work...

"But the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work , thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
Exodus 20:10

* but Christ preached ON Sabbath... Christ broke the Sabbath and amended it...

Originally posted by debbiejo
So, what's the whole thing with the Sabbath being changed,

Originally posted by debbiejo
Oh, and the Sabbath was never changed by Jesus...

* i think you're just being stubborn... 🙄

Originally posted by Alliance
you can still kill people in the NT....look at homosexuals.

But homosexuals aren't human, they are abominations. Thus spake the Lord.