YES! I have changed my mind from atheist to a real practicing and chanting Buddhist because of this site! 💃
I think most other people here are just too proud and full of ego to really consider the ideas of other people. People are too proud while basking in the magnificance of their own ideas. Be more open minded and willing to be persuaded by the other side - it might just save your life or alter it for the better.
Originally posted by Wonderer
I think most other people here are just too proud and full of ego to really consider the ideas of other people. People are too proud while basking in the magnificance of their own ideas. Be more open minded and willing to be persuaded by the other side - it might just save your life or alter it for the better.
I think you're partially right. Many people here are too proud and full of ego to attempt to understand another's point of view, or simply engage in debate to amuse themselves rather than to receive or give enlightenment about a subject. That's something I've been guilty of a myself on many occassions.
Still some of my obstinance comes from personal angst against the inherent stupidity found in others arguments. Usually these stupid arguments are supported by many other stupid people with like minded stupid views, and when their inherent stupidity is finally brought to the forefront for all to see, they resort to ganging up on the individual who's proven them wrong, using ridicule and fallacious arguments to damage that individual's character.
All this being said, I believe it important to note that not all arguments presented are meant to change others views. Some are just meant to convict the individual with the truth, so that when the final day comes between them and their maker, they can have no excuse for not knowing what the truth really was.
Originally posted by Final Warrior
Still some of my obstinance comes from personal angst against the inherent stupidity found in others arguments. Usually these stupid arguments are supported by many other stupid people with like minded stupid views, and when their inherent stupidity is finally brought to the forefront for all to see, they resort to ganging up on the individual who's proven them wrong, using ridicule and fallacious arguments to damage that individual's character.
Care to give an example of a religious thread where a group of stupid people have ganged up on an person who has proven them wrong?
Originally posted by Final Warrior
I think you're partially right. Many people here are too proud and full of ego to attempt to understand another's point of view, or simply engage in debate to amuse themselves rather than to receive or give enlightenment about a subject. That's something I've been guilty of a myself on many occassions.Still some of my obstinance comes from personal angst against the inherent stupidity found in others arguments. Usually these stupid arguments are supported by many other stupid people with like minded stupid views, and when their inherent stupidity is finally brought to the forefront for all to see, they resort to ganging up on the individual who's proven them wrong, using ridicule and fallacious arguments to damage that individual's character.
All this being said, I believe it important to note that not all arguments presented are meant to change others views. Some are just meant to convict the individual with the truth, so that when the final day comes between them and their maker, they can have no excuse for not knowing what the truth really was.
Originally posted by Final Warrior
...All this being said, I believe it important to note that not all arguments presented are meant to change others views. Some are just meant to convict the individual with the truth, so that when the final day comes between them and their maker, they can have no excuse for not knowing what the truth really was.
That is not your place.
To me, what you just said above is stupidity to it's highest degree. Should I point it out to you so you will have no excuse? 😆 No, I wish you great happiness.
Can't say it's been a 180 or anything like that, but yeah, I've learned a lot from this forum.
Not so much a drastic changing of beliefs, but moreso refining knowledge of specific beliefs, practices, and religions, as well as adding depth to many of the beliefs I had already.
I was also in the process of leaving Christianity when I found this forum. It would have happened anyway, but it was probably hastened somewhat by things from this site.
Re: Anyone Changing Their Mind
Originally posted by Nellinator
I was just wondering if anyone on the site has changed their religous beliefs based on what they have read on this website? It doesn't seem likely, but it would be interesting to know if this forum even serves a real purpose.
I am restating what has been said, but I discuss religion on here to learn about other peoples views. I challenge their views so that I am able to better understand the reasoning behind their views. Also, by arguing on here, I am given a dry run at discussion in real life. I am able to put forth arguments and see that yes, that one was just stupid, or yes, that one does make sense. I am honing my skills at discussing religion by, basically, using this group as a sounding board for those arguments.
Re: Re: Anyone Changing Their Mind
Originally posted by Regret
I am restating what has been said, but I discuss religion on here to learn about other peoples views. I challenge their views so that I am able to better understand the reasoning behind their views. Also, by arguing on here, I am given a dry run at discussion in real life. I am able to put forth arguments and see that yes, that one was just stupid, or yes, that one does make sense. I am honing my skills at discussing religion by, basically, using this group as a sounding board for those arguments.
😱 You are just using us... 😱 😛
Re: Re: Anyone Changing Their Mind
Originally posted by Regret
I am restating what has been said, but I discuss religion on here to learn about other peoples views. I challenge their views so that I am able to better understand the reasoning behind their views. Also, by arguing on here, I am given a dry run at discussion in real life. I am able to put forth arguments and see that yes, that one was just stupid, or yes, that one does make sense. I am honing my skills at discussing religion by, basically, using this group as a sounding board for those arguments.
👆 me too.
Originally posted by Regret
I am restating what has been said, but I discuss religion on here to learn about other peoples views.
As some wise person once said - first UNDERSTAND then be understood.
I see nothing wrong with using a forum to test ones arguments and argumentation-technique. Some... hm... patterns emerge after a while... 😉
I have changed my mind from a hard core Christian to that of god is bigger than that, or what we my perceive this intelligence as like a god....Actually I think the word "god" give a wrong perception in my mind..........but ok, we call call it that, if you like........IT TO ME IS JUST WHAT IS........