Anyone Changing Their Mind

its justification.

Justification is definately a start, but it should be more than a simple personal justification, your justification needs to have some sort of societal contextualization and factual base.

Originally posted by Alliance
its justification.

Justification is definately a start, but it should be more than a simple personal justification, your justification needs to have some sort of societal contextualization and factual base.

Originally posted by Echuu
Jesus did not condone those weapons though did he? He told his disciple to put away his weapon because those who live by the sword will die by it.

Originally posted by Wonderer
My friend, anything can be justified based on subjectivity. And a 'factual base' is relative and subjective. I merely made a comment that we're all stupid in the end when it comes to the infinity of the universe. Sort of mirroring what the wise Socrates also said that the wise knows he knows nothing. Or are you implying that we as mere human beings in an infinitely vast universe can authoratatively claim to know things? If you are, you're simply arrogant and pointless.

I see your point, but then I don't.

Socrates was referencing that line "the more you know the more you know you don't know" (not directly obviously). He himself tried to explain the universe. This leads me to believe that simply because you can't obtain the best possible answer, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

Whats your practical solution to the problem?

Originally posted by Alliance
Do you remeber the passage, I forget where it was.

And If you don't like this forum, just leave. Many of us like it.

I could look it up again in the thread but otherwise I believe it was from Matthew. It was basically a parable about a nobleman/lord who gave money to three servants and the first two did something with the money and made profit but the third one put it away to be safe and didn't make any.

I like this forum but I don't think people show much respect to others.

I always thought parables were kinda cool.........what's you take on that parable you just quoted........I take it as we are all born with special gifts and they should be used, as in using them to the good of mankind....though it is all up to interpretation. One interpretation is that Jesus was talking about Missionary work.....

Hmmm maybe I'll make a parable thread sometime...

Oh and again I like these forums, It's great to read other views from around the world........very eye opening.

Originally posted by debbiejo
what's you take on that parable you just quoted........I take it as we are all born with special gifts and they should be used, as in using them to the good of mankind....though it is all up to interpretation.

I like that interpretation.

Originally posted by Echuu
I could look it up again in the thread but otherwise I believe it was from Matthew. It was basically a parable about a nobleman/lord who gave money to three servants and the first two did something with the money and made profit but the third one put it away to be safe and didn't make any.

I like this forum but I don't think people show much respect to others.

😆 I havent eaxctly found you to me the most respectful person on here.

I will search again for the passage.

Originally posted by Alliance
😆 I havent eaxctly found you to me the most respectful person on here.

And your examples of this would be what.........?

Originally posted by Alliance
I see your point, but then I don't.

Socrates was referencing that line "the more you know the more you know you don't know" (not directly obviously). He himself tried to explain the universe. This leads me to believe that simply because you can't obtain the best possible answer, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

Whats your practical solution to the problem?

Socrates never tried to explain the universe.
There is no solution to the 'problem' at all - if you see a problem, then you're misguided, because the meaning of life is self-revealing if you stop searching and make peace. You will realise when you open your heart and mind that you have been living inside the absolute truth all along. 🙂

Originally posted by Wonderer
Socrates never tried to explain the universe.
There is no solution to the 'problem' at all - if you see a problem, then you're misguided, because the meaning of life is self-revealing if you stop searching and make peace. You will realise when you open your heart and mind that you have been living inside the absolute truth all along. 🙂

We live in the absolute truth, the mystic law or Nam Myoho Renge Kyo, but we cannot see it, or understand it.

Originally posted by Wonderer
if you see a problem, then you're misguided, because the meaning of life is self-revealing if you stop searching and make peace.

Thats true. There are things that must be perceived, and can not be deduced from anywhere. There is one part of our knowledge that can only be obtained via perceptions(i.e. insights), and not from deductions.

I think that is where spirituality can play its role.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I was just wondering if anyone on the site has changed their religous beliefs based on what they have read on this website? It doesn't seem likely, but it would be interesting to know if this forum even serves a real purpose.

ditto

da...da...ditto.

I always was secretly atheist, thinking that it's not a regular thing and the people I'm around all see it as a disgrace. When i started reading some topics I realized I wasn't alone and it didn't really seem like a big deal anymore.

Has anyone changed their minds about god from this forum?

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I always was secretly atheist, thinking that it's not a regular thing and the people I'm around all see it as a disgrace. When i started reading some topics I realized I wasn't alone and it didn't really seem like a big deal anymore.

Has anyone changed their minds about god from this forum?

Not about God, but I have changed my mind about Christians. There are some good Christians, they just get over shadowed by bad Christians.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I always was secretly atheist, thinking that it's not a regular thing and the people I'm around all see it as a disgrace. When i started reading some topics I realized I wasn't alone and it didn't really seem like a big deal anymore.

Has anyone changed their minds about god from this forum?

Yes.

Not entirely because of KMC (I was in the process of change already) but various members, posts, links, etc. helped me through the changes. There's really a wealth of information, and opportunities for personal growth, both on the internet and elsewhere if you're open to them and are able to sift through the crap-with-an-agenda to find what you believe.

So yes, occasionally the system works....or at least it helps out.

This forum has definitely helped me engage in learning about a lot of different religions including the one I was raised as.