Anyone Changing Their Mind

Started by Nellinator7 pages

Originally posted by Alliance
I think several of us took a much needed break from this forum and have come back with a clean slate. Yourself and myself included.

I'd like to think I have always been polite and patient, but maybe I haven't... This forum seems to stir up resentment so getting away can really bring things back into perspective.

Thats what happend to me.

I try to be polite, yet agressively argue.

And poke sometimes too?
Wait... is that a poke by me?

Some people need a poke to wake up.

Fact.

Is often not realized by the people who are in need of it the most.

Originally posted by Alliance
Is often not realized by the people who are in need of it the most.

A hidden jab perhaps? Or am I just being paranoid?

It was a general statement and one that has many interpretations. I meant it as a general concept.

Ok then, I am paranoid.

Originally posted by Alliance
Are you describing yourself?

Naaah..I love the "truth." It sets me free and keeps me complete, without it I would be completely lost - but to be quite honest - at first it usually ticks me off...😆

Originally posted by Nellinator
Ok then, I am paranoid.
I could apply it to you 🙂

Originally posted by Alliance
I could apply it to you 🙂

Well then if I have heard the truth from your mouth so be it. As Martin Luther King stated -

"I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant."

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Well then if I have heard the truth from your mouth so be it.

You slipped in a post. It was intended for Nellinator.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Naaah..I love the "truth." It sets me free and keeps me complete, without it I would be completely lost - but to be quite honest - at first it usually ticks me off...😆

Most peole claim that their "truth" sets them free and completes them. They also claim that without it they would be lost.

These interpretations are simply the side effects of not being able or willing to understand a larger view of existance. Truth is subjective.

Originally posted by Alliance
You slipped in a post. It was intended for Nellinator.

Yes - but I believe perhaps God intended it for me too 😉


Most peole claim that their "truth" sets them free and completes them. They also claim that without it they would be lost.

These interpretations are simply the side effects of not being able or willing to understand a larger view of existance. Truth is subjective.

If one believes in God - and you believe that he is truth - then they will be content in knowing that he is absolute in this truth. I can't imagine having a God rule over me who was a liar - perverted - and cared nothing about anyone else other than himself.(which sad to say - unfortunately - all of mankind can now be described as these 3 things, due to their inherent "sin" nature)

So those who have faith in God, sincerely hope(have faith) that he is as truthful as he claims - and that his truth is absolute, because if it wasn't then that would mean that there is truly no hope for mankind. I usually reconcile my faith in God's truth with the "cross" - for I can't see how an "unloving" and/or "untruthful" God would make such a selfless sacrafice if he truly did not love his creations.

Anyway...yeah I changed my mind regarding humanity not necesseraly my religious beliefs.
I also got to release (alhough not fully of course, since I do not live in America) why Atheists hate Christians so much, then point out how Christians are hating.

Having that said, a lot of people shit their pants defending all other religions (and in particular Islam), while complitely refusing to acknowledge its falibilities.

Furthermore, if one dares say anything which is not ''Islam is a religion of peace'' one is branded as ''hateful'', while calling Christians all kinds of names is ok - because living in America gives you the Christian-hate-free card!

I love this forum.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Anyway...yeah I changed my mind regarding humanity not necesseraly my religious beliefs.
I also got to release (alhough not fully of course, since I do not live in America) why Atheists hate Christians so much, then point out how Christians are hating.

Having that said, a lot of people shit their pants defending all other religions (and in particular Islam), while complitely refusing to acknowledge its falibilities.

Furthermore, if one dares say anything which is not ''Islam is a religion of peace'' one is branded as ''hateful'', while calling Christians all kinds of names is ok - because living in America gives you the Christian-hate-free card!

I love this forum.

😂 That actually made some sense. But Islam is better than christianity, mostly because when it was made people were smarter and their was more Science.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, you often present your opinion as fact or truth.

Name one instance.....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The amount of "harm" an opinion causes does not dictate whether or not the opinion may need to be justified if presented as fact or truth..

✅ Yes it does.

If you beleive in spirits, you do not have to justify why. You have the right to beleive it. If you beleive in something hateful or something that classifies a people as superior or inferior in anyway, especially when that beleif creeps its way into politics, then yes...you better have justification for such a belief.

Originally posted by lord xyz
😂 That actually made some sense. But Islam is better than christianity, mostly because when it was made people were smarter and their was more Science.

One of its prime contributions. Saving the Classical world.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I also got to release (alhough not fully of course, since I do not live in America) why Atheists hate Christians so much, then point out how Christians are hating.

Though, I would love to point out to you that if you consider things that I say to be "hateful" I can't imagine how you would unbaisedly classify your critique of Islam.

Hate is a very strong word. I don't think Christians should be killed. However, I feel strongly that people losse their rights when their actions infringe upon the rights of others. This is one of the cornerstones of the US Constitution and my philosophy as well. Attacking Christians for attacking others is not hating. And unless you've read all the threads (you seem to continuously participate in a few) you've likedly missed some stuff and are formulating these conjuctures based on a nonrepresentative sample.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Furthermore, if one dares say anything which is not ''Islam is a religion of peace'' one is branded as ''hateful'', while calling Christians all kinds of names is ok - because living in America gives you the Christian-hate-free card!

You know thats not true, so stop it.

Islam helped to define the world. Not really to save it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
But Islam is better than christianity, mostly because when it was made people were smarter and their was more Science.

I disagree.

If anything, Christians were rather smart at the begining of Christianity. It was only after the institualisation of Christianity into a Church, and then of course, when the Leaders of Rome were converted that the problems begun.

As far as science goes - There were many scientists and thinkers who were Christians. And far more so than Islamic.

Remember,
Even Galileo claimed that Bible cannot err, and that his explanation was an alternative interpretation of the Bible.

Of course the simple minded Pope of the time was ''offended'' at that. HA! Idiot.

What about Robert Boyle?! He was a governor of Missionary organization for propagating the gospel in New England and he personally funded bible translations into Turkish and Arabic.

He is the founder of Modern Chenistry / Gas Dynamics, for those who can't jog the memory back to Chemistry Class.

And how about Mr Morse. The very first thing EVER to be sent by electric telegraph was a Bible verse.

Johannes Kepler - Founder of Astronomy/Laws of Planetary Motion was also a Christian.
He said: ''I am a Christian...I believe... only and alone in the service of Jesus Christ...In Him is all refuge, all solace.''

Michael Faraday was also a Christian, as was Blaise Pascal and of course not forgetting Nicola Tesla.

There are/were more scientists, thinkers, writers, philosophers who were Christian. There are also a lot of Jewish scientists, who were all of the above.

(Note - everyone tries to claim Albert Einstein (Christians, Jews, athiests...) simply because of the weight of his intelect - he was agnostic however, as far as sources say.)

The reason this worked so well for the people at the time is that those people understood ALL knowledge they found as tied with God and Jesus, as opposed to ''SATANIC'' which we get quite a lot of these days...ironically.

Makes you wonder then, doesn't it....