Could Sion have possibly replicated Sidious' Force Storm?

Originally posted by Spartan ll
1.Oh so you would know when it's wrong or not even when the problem isn't visible?Yeah,right....

2.Don't compare computers to debating.And is Nebaris a bearer of an informed decision when it comes to debating?No.Why?Because he doesn't even know how to debate!I'd rather ask someone with experience in the debating field on who are the Best Debators, rather than somone who doesn't wouldn't you agree?

2. Let's say that I completely suck at debating and I am as bad as someone like Ownage. I would still know who the good debaters are, and who the bad ones are. And I can honestly say that you're average/bad.

And the funny thing is, I'm kicking your ass in this debate.

A little rude there Spartan,

Swirly stated an informed decision. not a professional one.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
1.Oh so you would know when it's wrong or not even when the problem isn't visible?Yeah,right....

2.Don't compare computers to debating.And is Nebaris a bearer of an informed decision when it comes to debating?No.Why?Because he doesn't even know how to debate!I'd rather ask someone with experience in the debating field on who are the Best Debators, rather than somone who doesn't wouldn't you agree?

Excuse me? If the problem wasn't visible and had no affect on my driving, how the **** would I know about the problem? Or anyone else, unless they took it apart? If there's a problem with my car, I'll usually be able to tell.

For the second question, I can agree somewhat. Whilst there's no shame to be found in seeking out the opinion of the more able, it doesn't necessarily take a good debator to see who is one.

I can tell that my local mechanic is a good mechanic because he fixes my car if it is damaged or impaired.

Much in the same way that someone could tell who was a good debator because of their use of pertinent points, their lack of bias and so on.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
'Where did I say I was better than Lightsnake?Oh yeah,I didn't!You're contradicting yourself,again.I said Lightsnake was better than me because he has more patience to put up with stupid people like you.'

You'll notice tha I said 'as good as', and you did. You said that your debating skill was on his level.

'And then you proceeded to bring up how many people hate me,you then lied and lcaimed others did and made a false list,to which only three(Which were included in his TRUE list of people that hated me,and I pointed out that they hated me because I beat them in debates and they were still sour about that) TRUELY disliked me.The others never even admitted to hating me,he contradicted himself then aswell.'

Dude, most of those people privately hated you. The fact remains, more people hated you than they hated me.

'And then he said it doesn't take a debater to point out who's good at debating,to which I said that it DOES,a good debater knows other good debaters better than someone who has no experience in the field of debating at all.'

Do you need to be a tennis pro to judge who's a better player out of Roddick and Henman?

'He then proceeded to make a stupid claim that you had to have some Force Connection and be angry and hateful to make a Force Storm,to which I asked if anyone else besides Sidious use a Force Storm to Sidious' magnitude.He still hasn't replied to that question.'

I think you'll find that my reply is there.

'I'd rather ask someone with experience in the debating field on who are the Best Debators, rather than somone who doesn't wouldn't you agree?'

I agree with this, but this was not your original point. You originally stated that someone who doesn't debate can't possibly judge how others debate, which is just rediculous.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
2. Let's say that I completely suck at debating and I am as bad as someone like Ownage. I would still know who the good debaters are, and who the bad ones are. And I can honestly say that you're average/bad.

And the funny thing is, I'm kicking your ass in this debate.

2.No you aren't,maybe in your own little dilluded mind you are.

'Proof?Oh yeah,you have none!Contradicting yourself again,I see.'

Do you even know what a contradiction is?

'Why are you comparing two entirely different things?'

The analogy is valid. Deal with it, and accept that you're wrong.

'Copy and paste it again,then.'

Can you retype your question clearly then?

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Excuse me? If the problem wasn't visible and had no affect on my driving, how the **** would I know about the problem? Or anyone else, unless they took it apart? If there's a problem with my car, I'll usually be able to tell.

For the second question, I can agree somewhat. Whilst there's no shame to be found in seeking out the opinion of the more able, it doesn't necessarily take a good debator to see who is one.

I can tell that my local mechanic is a good mechanic because he fixes my car if it is damaged or impaired.

Much in the same way that someone could tell who was a good debator because of their use of pertinent points, their lack of bias and so on.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
1.I certainly wouldn't go to you,seeing as how you don't even debate,and have no experience in that field.

2.No you aren't,maybe in your own little dilluded mind you are.

1. Experience in the field of debating on this forum =/ experience in the field of debating outside of this forum. You're clearly too dumb to realise this.

2. Yes, I am.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
'Proof?Oh yeah,you have none!Contradicting yourself again,I see.'

Do you even know what a contradiction is?

'Why are you comparing two entirely different things?'

The analogy is valid. Deal with it, and accept that you're wrong.

'Copy and paste it again,then.'

Can you retype your question clearly then?

So this thread should be renamed to contradiction then?????

Originally posted by Sith'ari
1. Experience in the field of debating on this forum =/ experience in the field of debating outside of this forum. You're clearly too dumb to realise this.

2. Yes, I am. [/B]

2.No,you aren't.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
Exactly.You aren't a mechanic,you wouldn't know specifically what is wrong with your car,you'd have to go to a real mechanic to find the source of the problem.

You're failing to see the point. I can tell that there is something wrong with the car. I could perhaps acertain what was wrong with the car on my own, but it depended on the situation.

Nebaris can see that (in his opinion) there is something wrong with your debating. Perhaps we might not be able to point out the specifics of it all, but he could make some basic points.

Whatever dude, I'm done. I think talking to you for such a long time has severely lowered my IQ, so please, stop talking to me.

And what would you know about your car if it wasn't working properly?You aren't a professional mechanic.The mostly thing you would tell him/her is:'My car is making a sputtering noise',or something to that effect.Specifics are required in the field of debating,if you don't have specifics,then chances are you'll lose.

And like what?I'll list a few myself of what's wrong:

1.I don't have that much patience.

2.Nobody seems to be reading my posts.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Whatever dude, I'm done. I think talking to you for such a long time has severely lowered my IQ, so please, stop talking to me.

Logical Answer:None.Why?Because they didn't have the Force power that Sidious did so he could control/make those types of Force Storms.

'Who,besides Sidious,has performed a Force Storm or even made it to the magnitude that Sidious did,besides Sidious himself'

This only proves that you were unable to comprehend my original post.

'Running away,huh?Guess that means I win.'

That's right, you win. 👆

Originally posted by Sith'ari
'Who,besides Sidious,has performed a Force Storm or even made it to the magnitude that Sidious did,besides Sidious himself'

This only proves that you were unable to comprehend my original post.

'Running away,huh?Guess that means I win.'

That's right, you win. 👆

1.Wrong answer.

2.Exactly.

Winning by default is not winning

It can even be "debated" that conceding defeat is actually taking the chance of winning off the other person

Originally posted by Archangelysses
After re-reading the original question in entirety I would have to say no.

That is only because of the fact that Sion survived due to his hatred and his will. I believe that he would be unable to focus that hatred and will with such control to create the storm, without dying himself.

To put plainly, by trying to double task the thing that keeps him alive to activate something else he crashes the system.

However, if he was whole to begin with and had access to Palp's library, then pretty bloody likely he could have

And there is the result of the thread, OKAY