Could Sion have possibly replicated Sidious' Force Storm?

Originally posted by Spartan ll
Running away,huh?Guess that means I win.You still haven't answered my question,here,I'll repost it for you:
Who,besides Sidious,has performed a Force Storm or even made it to the magnitude that Sidious did,besides Sidious himself?

Logical Answer:None.Why?Because they didn't have the Force power that Sidious did so he could control/make those types of Force Storms.

It's non sequitur logic. So, I guess because Exar Kun was able to freeze a senate of millions and maintain that whilst crushing the chancellor, and tooling Vodo Siosk-Bass, noone else possesses the control or force power of Exar Kun; who could perform that technique?

Joruus C'baoth froze and mind controlled tens of thousands of beings, Kun's feat was hardly special

These are the only two post worth bringing up.

Originally posted by Decay
i dont think sion has more anger and control, he just exercises his will in a different more overt way. you have you remember how much sidious hate the jedi, and how many times he has to sit with them face to face pretending to value their opinion, and need their help. i dont think any other sith could have had the control to do that for decades. and his anger, like his power was all controlled for the greater purpose.

Originally posted by Archangelysses
After re-reading the original question in entirety I would have to say no.

That is only because of the fact that Sion survived due to his hatred and his will. I believe that he would be unable to focus that hatred and will with such control to create the storm, without dying himself.

To put plainly, by trying to double task the thing that keeps him alive to activate something else he crashes the system.

However, if he was whole to begin with and had access to Palp's library, then pretty bloody likely he could have

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Joruus C'baoth froze and mind controlled tens of thousands of beings, Kun's feat was hardly special

Whereas Kun performed it on a greater scale? With millions of people? Whilst tooling Vodo? And engaging in a small tete-a-tete with the chancellor?

Please, it was special insomuch as it's never been performed on that scale again; with the hypothetical individual engaging in combat with another person.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
These are the only two post worth bringing up.

Why's that?

Oh yeah, because you only believe that "posts worth bringing up" are the ones that you wanna hear. 😉

Originally posted by Escape81
Why's that?

Oh yeah, because you only believe that "posts worth bringing up" are the ones that you wanna hear. 😉

Actually, both of them disagree with my theory Escape, so you're clearly wrong there. Those are the only two because they are the only ones which fully took in my initial post and fully answered my question.

Oh, come on...mind controlling and freezing ten thousand
And while fighting someone? Big deal. There's no proof Kun had to keep the spell up continuously, rather than it just having a lasting effect...so Joruus's performed the feat on a greater scale and Kun doing it while hefting up a non-force sensitive geriatric hardly screams 'impressive

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Actually, both of them disagree with my theory Escape, so you're clearly wrong there. Those are the only two because they are the only ones which fully took in my initial post and fully answered my question.

Touche.

My apologies, I read wrongly. Perhaps there's more depth to you after all...

Big deal? So how is freezing millions of people inferior to Joruus' feat? Heck, if you want to argue semantics, I'd say that the text implies that Kun was making them sit and do nothing, not the spell.

The Chancellor? That's a fair point, he was not a force sensitive. But then again, he did also fight with Vodo whilst doing that.

Who,besides Sidious,has performed a Force Storm or even made it to the magnitude that Sidious did,besides Sidious himself?

Now answer the damn question,Nebaris.Without a quote from a book MADE by the most powerful Sith Lord in Histroy who could make them at will.

Reading comprehension is your friend Luke.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Anyway here's my question. Do you think that if Sion possessed the knowledge of how to produce these force storms, do you think he would have the ability to produce a force storm even more devastating then Palpatine's?

Answer my question first,you already said you would.

And here's your answer anyway:No,he couldn't.He's too busy keeping himself together to make a Storm like that,he'd rip himself apart considering he can't control keeping himself together and a Force Storm at the same time.And he doesn't have as much hate and anger as Sidious,even the Sith Spirits on Korriban in EE said that Sidious was the pure inbodiment of hate and anger,aswell as the DE Sourcebook confirms this aswell.

Good job copying off of people. 👆

I didn't copy off of anyone.I gave you my answer,aswell as two canon sources that confirm Sidious being the pure inbodiment of hate and anger.

And are going to answer my question?Or are you just going to keep evading it?

You copied off of Archangelleysess.

After re-reading the original question in entirety I would have to say no.

That is only because of the fact that Sion survived due to his hatred and his will. I believe that he would be unable to focus that hatred and will with such control to create the storm, without dying himself.

To put plainly, by trying to double task the thing that keeps him alive to activate something else he crashes the system.

However, if he was whole to begin with and had access to Palp's library, then pretty bloody likely he could have-Arch Angel Eyes

No,he couldn't.He's too busy keeping himself together to make a Storm like that,he'd rip himself apart considering he can't control keeping himself together and a Force Storm at the same time.And he doesn't have as much hate and anger as Sidious,even the Sith Spirits on Korriban in EE said that Sidious was the pure inbodiment of hate and anger,aswell as the DE Sourcebook confirms this aswell.-Me

And notice that I disagreed with Arch Angel Eyes assessment.Sion can't control a Force Storm while holding himself together at the same time,that would require more control over a Force Storm than even DE Sidious had ,which I highly doubt Sion could do.And I listed two canon sources aswell,to confirm my saying that Sidious was the inbodiment of hate and anger,and my answer was shorter and more to the point than Arch's was.

As you see,both posts are entirely different with entirely different outcomes aswell.

And are you going to answer my question?Or are going to keep evading it?

Dude, you did copy his idea, quit lying.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
After re-reading the original question in entirety I would have to say no.

That is only because of the fact that Sion survived due to his hatred and his will. I believe that he would be unable to focus that hatred and will with such control to create the storm, without dying himself.

To put plainly, by trying to double task the thing that keeps him alive to activate something else he crashes the system.

However, if he was whole to begin with and had access to Palp's library, then pretty bloody likely he could have-Arch Angel Eyes

No,he couldn't.He's too busy keeping himself together to make a Storm like that,he'd rip himself apart considering he can't control keeping himself together and a Force Storm at the same time.And he doesn't have as much hate and anger as Sidious,even the Sith Spirits on Korriban in EE said that Sidious was the pure inbodiment of hate and anger,aswell as the DE Sourcebook confirms this aswell.-Me

And notice that I disagreed with Arch Angel Eyes assessment.Sion can't control a Force Storm while holding himself together at the same time,that would require more control over a Force Storm than even DE Sidious had ,which I highly doubt Sion could do.And I listed two canon sources aswell,to confirm my saying that Sidious was the inbodiment of hate and anger,and my answer was shorter and more to the point than Arch's was.

As you see,both posts are entirely different with entirely different outcomes aswell.

And are you going to answer my question?Or are going to keep evading it?

Hello?Did you even READ my post?I provided Sources aswell as a different outcome and shorter more to the point answer.

I knew you would pull this,Nebaris.You keep evading my question because you don't have an answer and won't admit that you lost.Who's lying?Oh yeah,you.Because you claimed you would answer my question if I reposted it in this thread(Which I did 4 posts ago),and you have failed to do just that.

Looks like I win.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Well firstly prove that Sion has a stonger will than Palpatine(I doubt it). Remember that Palpatine has a will so strong that he doesnt even need a body to survive.

Then you would have to consider that Sion has nowhere near the force mastery of Palpatine, and I would consider that to be a vital element in creating force storms.

exept the fact that he has the knowledge of the force and anger to keep his sliced and diced body alive using the force (with his hate and anger toward everything) which must need a very high degree of the force to do and i doubt that palp' could have done THAT. ignored that didn't ya. 😕

secondly, he may not have the technique to do so in the jedi civil war time, but if he was in another time period where he had found a way to do so then i think he could have done so. 😮‍💨

um well, idk much about the book of anger but since sion DOES have the strongest will and alot of anger it might be possible he could have replicated the force storm if he had read the book.

but since his mastery of the force is not so good then well he will have a hard time controlling the storm