Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Superman fought Skeletor in the Master of the Universe preview. I have it. And it states that Superman's powers hardly work in Eternia as it is a land ruled by magic.Skeletor says this himself.
And Superman wouldn't be fighting in character in this match up, no character does on the forum, so what a redundant thing to say.
Here's more proof that Superman can fly at warp speed and above.
Thats scan says nothing about Superman moving at warp speed.
BTW, can you tell me what Superman could do to keep RKT from freezing him in time or transmuting his body into sand?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats scan says nothing about Superman moving at warp speed.BTW, can you tell me what Superman could do to keep RKT from freezing him in time or transmuting his body into sand?
Pre-Crisis Superman cannot be frozen in time.
As the aliens in this comic found out to their shock.
And also - my scan where Superman is flying to the Superman Revenge Squad's Headquarters?
At the beginning of the issue, he flies to their base in a spaceship and it takes him ages because the base is "in a far distant galaxy."
In the scan I posted, he flies up from earth there, then gets to the base in seconds.
You think that's not warpspeed?
I've also already shown scans of Superman flying back from the edge of the universe unaided in seconds.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Pre-Crisis Superman cannot be frozen in time.As the aliens in this comic found out to their shock.
Nice scan. Prime or PC Supes would win this. Even standard 1 M Supes could win.
Superman Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IMP Superman
IMP Superman>>>>>>>>>>>IMP
IMP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman 1M/RTK
In this forum, the seething hate means Superman loses to:
Juggernaut
Magneto
Cable
Wolverine
Hulk
Etc. probably more ridiculous characters I forgot about in the VS forums.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nice scan. Prime or PC Supes would win this. Even standard 1 M Supes could win.Superman Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IMP Superman
IMP Superman>>>>>>>>>>>IMP
IMP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman 1M/RTKIn this forum, the seething hate means Superman loses to:
Juggernaut
Magneto
Cable
Wolverine
HulkEtc. probably more ridiculous characters I forgot about in the VS forums.
Quick question Avy.....What has Prime done to convince you he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RKT?? Really??
And the dislike of Superman probably comes from examples such as the one above. People who can't say why exactly, but say so anyways. Same reason why many don't like Sentry.
Superman Prime can beat Galactus.
Superman Prime can beat Rune King Thor.
Superman is too powerful for Magneto.
Superman sneezes and GL dies.
Superman is too strong and fast for Genis.
and the list goes on.
Nothing Superman Prime did, screams that he's above RKT. Nothing screams that he's above Galactus.
And yet people say both.....As if some new proof has revealed itself.
RKT hasn't done anything to show he's a match for Superman Prime, but the same goes for Prime.
Until RKT and Prime have some feats to stand on, nothing they've done show them to be as powerful as people hype them.
And editorial lipservice holds no weight, since the same people would have Superman the most powerful on Earth, when Dr.Fate lives/dwells there.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question Avy.....What has Prime done to convince you he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RKT?? Really??And the dislike of Superman probably comes from examples such as the one above. People who can't say why exactly, but say so anyways. Same reason why many don't like Sentry.
Superman Prime can beat Galactus.
Superman Prime can beat Rune King Thor.
Superman is too powerful for Magneto.
Superman sneezes and GL dies.
Superman is too strong and fast for Genis.and the list goes on.
Nothing Superman Prime did, screams that he's above RKT. Nothing screams that he's above Galactus.
And yet people say both.....As if some new proof has revealed itself.
RKT hasn't done anything to show he's a match for Superman Prime, but the same goes for Prime.
Until RKT and Prime have some feats to stand on, nothing they've done show them to be as powerful as people hype them.
And editorial lipservice holds no weight, since the same people would have Superman the most powerful on Earth, when Dr.Fate lives/dwells there.
Agreed
The only feats RKT has are killing a skyfather with a gesture, and defeating a pantheon of celestial beings to end Ragnarok.
What skyfather being did RKT kill with a gesture?? Mangog?? He is an extreme brute, but he has no versatility worthy of skyfather status, at least within his recent non silverage showings.
And Those who sit above in shadow?? They weren't Celestials. They were likely to be past skyfathers who went on, and precipitated the cycle anew. And RKT didn't even destroy them. He ended the cycle forever, and robbed them of their sustenance.
I repeat. Until RKT or Superman Prime defeats a Celestial or a Promethian Giant with a gesture, the only feats that count for them are the ones from their classic forms.
Hyperbole is empty praise.
Originally posted by UniOmni
What skyfather being did RKT kill with a gesture?? Mangog?? He is an extreme brute, but he has no versatility worthy of skyfather status, at least within his recent non silverage showings.
Well, he did put fear in the eyes of Odin, a feat not even accomplished by Thanos. He does have the power of a billion billion beings, and these beings were no joke. I say that if he's not skyfather lv, he is sure to be somewhere around it.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question Avy.....What has Prime done to convince you he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RKT?? Really??And the dislike of Superman probably comes from examples such as the one above. People who can't say why exactly, but say so anyways. Same reason why many don't like Sentry.
Superman Prime can beat Galactus.
Superman Prime can beat Rune King Thor.
Superman is too powerful for Magneto.
Superman sneezes and GL dies.
Superman is too strong and fast for Genis.and the list goes on.
Nothing Superman Prime did, screams that he's above RKT. Nothing screams that he's above Galactus.
And yet people say both.....As if some new proof has revealed itself.
RKT hasn't done anything to show he's a match for Superman Prime, but the same goes for Prime.
Until RKT and Prime have some feats to stand on, nothing they've done show them to be as powerful as people hype them.
And editorial lipservice holds no weight, since the same people would have Superman the most powerful on Earth, when Dr.Fate lives/dwells there.
Nothing RKT had done even compares to Supes 1M. RKT can't even control time...something that 1M does before he can even do things like fly or have invulnerability.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nothing RKT had done even compares to Supes 1M. RKT can't even control time...something that 1M does before he can even do things like fly or have invulnerability.
Actually, I think he has regained that power. The odinforce as stated in The Mighty Thor v2#62, the odinforce can accomplish any task the user might fathom. King Thor with the odinforce was able to bring a mortal girl back to life. Now imagine what RKT can do.
RKT has the same problem that Prime does. He has no hardcore feats, but all implied power.
And IF 1Million could control time, why didn't he go back and defeat Solaris before he became a threat??
And what did Prime do to show that he's above RKT??
Don't give me 1Million feats and then say that Prime is said to be more powerful and he empowers the dynasty.
Give me Prime feats.
And if hyperbolic comparisons is all you have to stand on, then i could go look at Odins feat list, and you don't want me to do that.
Cuz RKT is supposedly Odin squared.
Originally posted by UniOmni
RKT has the same problem that Prime does. He has no hardcore feats, but all implied power.And IF 1Million could control time, why didn't he go back and defeat Solaris before he became a threat??
And what did Prime do to show that he's above RKT??
Don't give me 1Million feats and then say that Prime is said to be more powerful and he empowers the dynasty.
Give me Prime feats.
And if hyperbolic comparisons is all you have to stand on, then i could go look at Odins feat list, and you don't want me to do that.Cuz RKT is supposedly Odin squared.
Why do a lot of easy fixes get overlooked in comics? They won't sell.
Feel free to look up Odins feat list. Imps are still above Odin squared. Then we have a Superman Imp on that, and above that is Superman Prime.
The entire future was mentally connected (headnet) and even with all the incredibly powerful beings, they acknowledged that SMP was their greatest champion. Kyles connection to it informed him that he's fought unimaginable battles...coming from the most creative GL...that's quite a statement.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Feel free to look up Odins feat list. Imps are still above Odin squared. Then we have a Superman Imp on that, and above that is Superman Prime.The entire future was mentally connected (headnet) and even with all the incredibly powerful beings, they acknowledged that SMP was their greatest champion. Kyles connection to it informed him that he's fought unimaginable battles...coming from the most creative GL...that's quite a statement.
So where are the feats? and or scans?