Exar Kun vs. Yoda

Adas's Holocron>Other holocrons, so...and once again, considering there's never been any distinction between any other Sith holocrons, moot points. Get over it! Odan accessed the Holocron, it's how he learned what he did in GaoTs..."After a millenia, the Sith holocron has given up its secrets." End of story.

Oh, forget this: Kun had them going to Yavin immediately...he told Ulic to hold off while he trained his Jedi. Crado: "We're all here, Kun, when do we leave for Yavin?"
Kun had all this planned the entire time

And it shows Yoda's stronger than any other Jedi.

And don't you talk to me about fanboyism. I show you sources and quotes, you just throw insults back. I try to argue with you, you ***** and whine and show nothing but hostility and immaturity.

Oh, and according to ODan, that was the only known Sith Holocron.

And since Adas's holocron>All others...him, there's a distinction?

http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=242&page=03

Adas Holocron>All=speculaton thanks lightsnake.. Really..
Odan Urr never accessed the holocron, get over it, stop arguing with facts. I've given you evidence, you choose how to deal with facts and your denial. You show me no sources, you show me ambiguous quotes, make up shit, show me more irrelevant quotes, provide irrelevant misdrection, and then cry and ***** and use personal attacks. And all of a sudden I'm the immature one.. This truly shows your fanboyism and stupidity..

Oh and guess what, regardless of your misdirection about how many holocrons there were, Odan Urr never accessed it as he claimed. So try again.

No, actually it was stated and I quoted.

http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=242&page=03

You were saying?

and I use eprsonal attacks? You were insulting me from the second you posted here. You just classify anything you disagree with as ambiguous-even when it comes from the writers! And then insult the source or accuse it of being false.

No, you show no sources, you show no facts, you just attack, sob and stamp your foot like a spoiled child. You attacked me numerous times before I lost it with you. You suck up to older posters and have no idea how to form a coherent argument. Even Sama and Nai verified the Yoda thing and they're far better debators than you.

Unlike you, I can actually use logic and sources. you simply ride their backs and slander anything that actually takes you down a peg...like, y;know, how the comic shows Exar leaving for Yavin immediately...the comic saying the Holocron having given up its secrets, numerous other Holocrons being accessed.

I have direct canon calling Yoda the strongest. And I have direct canon calling the PT the golden age, with the best Jedi swordsmen and strongest masters seen. Anakin, 'perhaps the best of any generation?' The three greatest saber duelists the order had produced? The strongest Jedi master? Nope, ignore, ignore, ignore...and then go on about the Ancients, ignoring that JEDI wiped them out, ignoring that Yoda spent centuries studying the Sith and the Jedi with more than Kun ever had to work with-whine all you like, all Kun had was Sadow's stuff and that wasn't all that the Sith had.

Yoda's mastered every defense against the Dark Side, he can easily compete with Kun ina contest of sabers and strength and you've yet to refute that, you've yet to even try.

I whine and ***** like a spoiled child? Says the one that bitches, calls me a brat, and says "you lose you lose you lose". Don't project your nonsense on me.. And I have provided facts and sources that are relevant to versus threads, you have not.
You can use logic? LOL! Yea we've all seen you successfully use logic in versus threads, including Yoda's quotes, Sidious' quotes, and how they matter at ALL.. You really are in denial lightsnake..
And here is where you contradict yourself with all of your sources..

So I'll say this once so you can avoid further embarassment... Yoda being the strongest foe doesnt matter AT ALL when he's facing the dark side, are you retarded? And hence why you bring in your ridiculous quote about "Yoda knowing everything", as a desperate attempt to salvage what you can from this argument. You clearly do not comprehend the quote or the relevance of it, or you just don't want to.. Yes, "Yoda knows everything" blah blah.. He can easily contend with Kun? Wow.. Maybe you should start proving how, as i have already proven why Kun is superior.. Quit trying lightsnake, you are failing.

Give me a break! You were insulting me long before that, pal. Yoda's quotes? If you mean actual material from canonically published material...remind me, who tried to use WIKIPEDIA as a valid force?

And yeah, being someone's strongest enemy kinda helps when fighting the,.

You've proven Kun is superior? Yeah, right..."He had mroe knowledge! He was better!"
Other person: How? 8gives argument
You: Lol, you suck, you're stupid *More insults, vague beginnings of a POINT*

I've proven how, Nai's proven how. We don't need to prove anything else, I've given my case. Your turn. Yoda's more agile and the best and strongest Jedi of the PT, the Golden Age, and its best saber duelist, heralded as the best saber duelist the Jedi Order produced ever. Called the strongest Jedi Master who lived until the PT times, who mastered all defenses against the Dark Side and was. Tom Veitch said "Yoda is definitely at the top"
Yoda's the strongest JEdi master who ever lived by the point of ROTS. factually stated in the ROTS novelization. He was also called the champion of the Light and the greatest warrior of the Force. He's studied the workings of the Sith and the dark side, he's crafted and learned defenses, he studied the Ancient Sith holocrons, including Adas's...he's studied the greatest arts of the Jedi...

Physical strength and ability? Nothing to scoff at. His force abilities are so great he can destroy droid armies on his own and lift the temple of Ilum. He studied the Force for eight hundred years as compared to Kun's single year of studying the Dark Side.

Hey numbnuts, canon quotes that don't pertain to a versus thread have NO RELEVANCE..
And again, I use logic, while your logic consists of "Yoda strongest ever known the end".. Please..
You haven't proven how lol, Nai has proven how Yoda would have a chance, so stop misinterpreting this purposely. You're not even a joy to argue because you can't grasp the idea that logic>fanboyism/irrelevant quotes...
Quantity is not greater than quality.. Sorry. Again you prove that logic has failed you with your ridiculous quotes that have nothing to do with this fight.

Oh, I'm afraid when canon quotes declare someone's strength, they have relevance. Considering the canon states that's what Yoda WAS, you have no room to argue.

It's funny how you ignore every other point. And once again: Kun had a year. Yoda had eight hundred times that. I'm afraid he studied a LOT more than Kun...so, his knowledge of the Force is much, much greater

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, I'm afraid when canon quotes declare someone's strength, they have relevance. Considering the canon states that's what Yoda WAS, you have no room to argue.

It's funny how you ignore every other point. And once again: Kun had a year. Yoda had eight hundred times that. I'm afraid he studied a LOT more than Kun...so, his knowledge of the Force is much, much greater

Yoda was the strongest light side opponent? This says what about his ability to fight dark side warriors? Oh wait nothing, logic has failed you once again...

And again, quality>quantity. Kun had access to more knowledge tha Yoda. Nobody said he definitely learned more but you are making a fool out of yourself with ridiculous assumptions that boost Yoda and diminish Kun. Again, logic and evidence>your opinion... You have no idea how long Kun had to study.. Not to mention studying for a year made him more powerful than anybody, so with your logic, he would be a super God by 800 years.. Thanks

The strongest Dark Side opponent, stop changing things to suit you...strongest light side warrior.

How did Kun have access to more knowledge than Yoda? Yoda had numerous Sith holocrons, including Adas's...Yoda had all the knowledge of the Jedi. And....Kun was studying the Dark Side for a year, maybe even less than that. He started on Yavin at 3,997...he physically died in 3,996. I'd like to know how Kun's knowledge was greater when he only had what Sadow had to offer, whereas Yoda studied defenses against all of the Dark Side from the Sith holocrons, not to mention the entire lineage of the Jedi

And Kun was gifted. The Sith Magic bought his raw power out, big deal. And Kun wouldn't live to be a 'super god' within 800 years...y'know, humans having a tendency to die.

Funny how you repeat everything I say to you.. Lightsnake, the master debator, the voice of logic!
Oh yes, the logic of "Kun was gifted". Stupidity like that destroys your own argument without my help. Kun's knowledge for 1 year helped him surpass everybody in power, which says a lot. Again, quality>quantity. Obviously its more logical to assume Yoda learned more in 800 years, but does that mean he's more powerful? Not by logic. Kun became more powerful in a year than Yoda did in 800..

Kun was already surpassing plenty of people, your point?

And once again: This is your opinion, pal. How do you know Exar was stronger or that Exar's knowledge was greater? Tom Veitch, who wrote DLOTS doesn't think so

Really, what does he say then exactly? And his opinion is relevant because(this assuming Yoda is stronger which is bullshit)? I'm glad you bring other people into a logical argument. More evidence of your faulty logic.

because Tom Veitch is one of two people who crafted tOTJ and Exar Kun.

And he says:
Me: How would you rate a Jedi like Yoda next to people like Exar or the Ancients?

Him:There's no doubt Yoda is at the top

How convenient? No email? No proof? I can also say that Tom Veitch says Obiwan is the chosen one.. See how stupid that sounds? This is where your logical argument turns? Wow lightsnake. Thank you for:

#1. Probably lying about his opinion because you can't stand to have your characters not be as powerful as you want.
#2. Stating an irrelevant opinion.

hey look at that, no image!

Just had to resize it

Wait...maybe I snuck into Tom Veitch's house, took him hostage and wrote a fake email to myself, after which I disposed of Tom and returned home in time to post on this forum!

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Wait...maybe I snuck into Tom Veitch's house, took him hostage and wrote a fake email to myself, after which I disposed of Tom and returned home in time to post on this forum!

😆

I'd always thought you were the type to do stuff like that Lightsnake.