Originally posted by UniOmni
I have never seen WW portrayed as dominant against someone in Supermans class as Black Adam has.
He dismisses him, and i can't see WW doing so.
He also seems to pwn the JSA occasionally, and i can't see WW doing the same.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I have never seen WW portrayed as dominant against someone in Supermans class as Black Adam has.
No offense, but using another post of yours as a reference, you're unsure if Diana's bracelets if linked together will render her powerless. Much said, you don't know in your own words.
This isn't PC WW. Post WW is completely different beast. LOTS of WW fans are angry with this because
A) Her origin is nothing like her old one which makes it confusing to comic readers.
B) Some feel that she was radically made more powerful than she should be.
Which is why the whole "Superman/Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman" floozy is so convuluted because the status quo was changed in 1986. WW suddenly became Superman with battle axe....
Originally posted by UniOmni
He dismisses him, and i can't see WW doing so.
Because of your general lack of knowledge of the character. WW has never faced Black Adam. She HAS on the other hand faced the Egyptian Gods. And beaten some to them. These are the very gods that power Black Adam mind you.
Originally posted by UniOmni
He just seems to operate a cut above her, and imo a cut above is where Superman stands.
And since i always saw BA= CM, by default he's > WW in stats, imo.
It also has to do with the "cape" factor or what many consider the Superman persona. Captain Marvel and Black Adam are seen as "Supermen" and Superman is generally seen as superior to Wonder Woman.
However it's not true when you look at the facts. You ASSUMING they are because "it feels right" and "look they have muscles" and even a little voice in the back of your head saying they're men.
Using raw hard facts, it's simply not true. WW has a one hit kill for these guys. She's used against CM once, and she can do it again. The moment that lasso touches (and it WILL touch them) CM or BA, bada bing bada boom, they're human. Then Superman or Diana can rip them in half.
Originally posted by UniOmni
WW is the most powerful female on Earth, with her superman comparable stats and defensive equipment and her better than average skills in hth.
I just don't see her as truly second most powerful on DC earth statwise.]
In PC? No she wasn't. In Post. Yeah she is...most of the time. As said before it's an editorial disrepency, if you read WW comics, it's clearly said severaly times, she's second to Superman in power. But whenever CM shows up, WW doesn't seem to exist. Which creates a dilemma, the DC editors are clearly trying to avoid. WW hasn't met CM or BA in combat in nearly 30 years. BA? Try 67....
Originally posted by UniOmni
[B]I see Superman = CM, BA > Supergirl => WW.Her skills save her.
She doesn't just have skills. She has a host of magical weapons. Her Medousa Head would end the battle in a second.
More likely its:
> barely
>>definitely
Superman>Wonder Woman>>Captain Marvel = Black Adam.
Using cold hard facts, it's just that way.
However DC editors show do switch around alot....
Diana many things in her favor against CM and BA. Lightening attacks aren't going to do sh** to her. She's gone up against Zeus and taken the full brunt of his lightening with little problems...so a poor man's Zeus lightening attack isn't going to do much but tickle her.
Personally I think Superman is the first to go down, THREE magical powerhouse? Ouch.
Originally posted by Validus
So what were her powers Pre-Crisis?I'm a newb who needs help. 🙁
Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman was alot weaker (though she MAY have been stronger in pure strength...in one crossover she and Superman were knocking each other to distant planets...)
She had relative superspeed. She could keep with the Flash.
She had immunity to electricity for some reason.
Her tiara could project lasers....
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Her lasso was the ULTIMATE plot-device back then. Even more so than the GL ring. It did ANYTHING she wanted it do...
Her bracelets were weird. She could deflect things that are impossible to deflect....like missiles. They bounced off like ping pong balls.
She could transform into animals...
She could jump into orbit.
Her weaknesses were as thus:
If her bracelets are bound by a MAN than she would lose her power.
If any man took one step onto Paradise Island, she and her sister Amazons (with the same powers) would lose their powers permanently.
Oh and she had a tendency to get tied up when ever possible...
Originally posted by Milkie
THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY!!!EVEN THOUGH BILLY HAS A FRACTION HE IS STILL JUST AS FAST IF NOT FASTER THEN DIANA.
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God help you.
THINK.
CM has a fraction (let's say 1/4) of Mercury's speed. Diana has ALL of Mercury's speed and then some.
How in your logic is CM faster?
We need to stop sending Christian missionaires to Brazil and start sending teachers or something.
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Originally posted by Draco69
..............God help you.
THINK.
CM has a fraction (let's say 1/4) of Mercury's speed. Diana has ALL of Mercury's speed and then some.
How in your logic is CM faster?
We need to stop sending Christian missionaires to Brazil and start sending teachers or something.
😕
Whatever dude.
Originally posted by Draco69
Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman was alot weaker (though she MAY have been stronger in pure strength...in one crossover she and Superman were knocking each other to distant planets...)She had relative superspeed. She could keep with the Flash.
She had immunity to electricity for some reason.
Her tiara could project lasers....
🤨
Her lasso was the ULTIMATE plot-device back then. Even more so than the GL ring. It did ANYTHING she wanted it do...
Her bracelets were weird. She could deflect things that are impossible to deflect....like missiles. They bounced off like ping pong balls.
She could transform into animals...
She could jump into orbit.
Her weaknesses were as thus:
If her bracelets are bound by a MAN than she would lose her power.
If any man took one step onto Paradise Island, she and her sister Amazons (with the same powers) would lose their powers permanently.
Oh and she had a tendency to get tied up when ever possible...
You must have me confused with someone else. I'm well aware that when her braces are crossed, an impenetrable forcefield is raised.
I'm also aware that PC, when her braces were tied together, she became weak and helpless, due to her creator allegedly being into bdsm.
The cape factor you speak of has nothing to do with it.
Cap Marvel was always a Superman clone, and when DC reintroduced him in the 70's, they were shown as relative equals.
The muscle thing means nill to me as well.
Quick question.....Throughout the post crisis era, has DC ever shown Diana to be Supermans equal?? His true equal? Physically that is?
Not close, not a smidge behind, but identical in stats??
Or have they always maintained that she is in the ballpark, but not in the league?? From 86 onward? Answer me that.
Originally posted by Milkie
dude i'm done with youIf you want to go about Insulting people and their country then you're not worth the time
Okay.
Bye.
And learn some decent math.
"Captain Marvel has a fraction and Diana has all of it but CM is still faster!"
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