Originally posted by Regret
Nobody quotes you because overall you are obviously not clear in what you are saying. He was asking you to clarifying what he thought you said. Rather than correct his confusion you just say he should understand the words coming out of my mouth.He asked, " Are you calling the nation of Islam and all the Muslims therein a bunch of heathens and heretics?"
You should have said, "yes."
Regret, now I know that you don't know Jesus. You do not have to explain it. You do not have the love of God in your heart for those who speak God's Word tirelessly and who expose untruths as I do. Besides, you want to think the worst of me. I simply exposed the Koran for what it says regarding Jesus and you want me to confess to calling the nation of Islam and all Muslims therein a bunch of heathens and heretics? Did I write the Koran? Well,..I am waiting. Let me answer that for you. Categorically no. But I can tell you who did: satan, the father of all lies and untruth. Please, don't put words in my mouth. I refuse to answer for something that I am not responsible for saying. Now maybe that is what you all interpreted, but that is not what I said.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[color=darkblue]I think Koran is the English equivalent of the Arabic Qur'ran. No? No? No? But then I could be wrong ya know I am just a man.
you are wrong and you are just a man...just like the men who wrote the bible...they spun a great yarn...but there are probably as many people now who believe that the da vinci code is fact as there are people who believe the bible is fact
and where was god before there were people who believed in God...i mean...surely christianity started with Christ...hence it's called Christianity
but there were people who believed and wrote about Gods (many different gods) long before anyone believed in or wrote about the Christian God
the Romans for example were the most powerful and civilised and knowledgable nation of the earth...Rome itself was the 1st city to have over 1,000,000 people live in it and it was over 1000 years later that any city or nation became as advanced as they were...yet they believed in
Jupiter - King of the Gods
Juno - Queen of the Gods
Neptune - God of the Sea
Pluto - God of Death
Apollo - God of the Sun
Diana - Goddess of the Moon
Mars - God of War
Venus - Goddess of Love
Cupid - God of Love
Mercury - Messenger of the Gods
Minerva - Goddess of Wisdom
Ceres - The Earth Goddess
Proserpine - Goddess of the Underworld
Vulcan - The Smith God
Bacchus - God of Wine
Saturn - God of Time
Vesta - Goddess of the Home
Janus - God of Doors
Uranus - Father of Saturn
Maia - Goddess of Growth
Flora - Goddess of Flowers
Plutus - God of Wealth
before the Romans were the Greek who believed in the 12 Olympians
Aphrodite
Apollo
Ares
Artemis
Athena
Demeter
Dionysus
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Poseidon
Zeus
then there were the Egyptian who believed in over 2000 different Gods
then of course there are the Norse Gods
Ægir
Andhrímnir
Aurvandil
Balder
Borr
Bragi
Búri
Caleb
Dagr
Delling
Eir
Elli
Forseti
Freyja
Freyr
Frig
Fulla
Gefjun
Hel
Heimdall
Hermóðr
Hlín
Höðr
Hœnir
Iðunn
Jord
Kvasir
Lofn
Loki
Magni
Máni
Meili
Melissa
Miming
Mímir
Modi
Nanna
Nerthus
Njord
Nótt
Odin
Ótta
Ran
Saga
Sif
Sjöfn
Skaði
Snotra
Sol
Thor
Thrud
Tyr
Ullr
Vali
Var
Vé
Vidar
Vili
Vör
the norse gods even had their own chef god....how good is that?
surely one of these Gods must have been real
even though no-one actually believes in them now
just goes to show you that belief in Gods comes and goes and they all have one thing in common
there wasn't a shred of proof for any of them
likely he percieves it that way.
Actually, the Romans had steam power, which i believe wasn't redeveloped until the 1700's?
THAT is technological superiority. Though they used it to open doors for their priests to give the appearence of magic. (so...their engineers needed a little more focused approach)
Originally posted by jaden101
you are wrong and you are just a man...just like the men who wrote the bible...they spun a great yarn...but there are probably as many people now who believe that the da vinci code is fact as there are people who believe the bible is factand where was god before there were people who believed in God...i mean...surely christianity started with Christ...hence it's called Christianity
but there were people who believed and wrote about Gods (many different gods) long before anyone believed in or wrote about the Christian God
the Romans for example were the most powerful and civilised and knowledgable nation of the earth...Rome itself was the 1st city to have over 1,000,000 people live in it and it was over 1000 years later that any city or nation became as advanced as they were...yet they believed in
Jupiter - King of the Gods
Juno - Queen of the Gods
Neptune - God of the Sea
Pluto - God of Death
Apollo - God of the Sun
Diana - Goddess of the Moon
Mars - God of War
Venus - Goddess of Love
Cupid - God of Love
Mercury - Messenger of the Gods
Minerva - Goddess of Wisdom
Ceres - The Earth Goddess
Proserpine - Goddess of the Underworld
Vulcan - The Smith God
Bacchus - God of Wine
Saturn - God of Time
Vesta - Goddess of the Home
Janus - God of Doors
Uranus - Father of Saturn
Maia - Goddess of Growth
Flora - Goddess of Flowers
Plutus - God of Wealthbefore the Romans were the Greek who believed in the 12 Olympians
Aphrodite
Apollo
Ares
Artemis
Athena
Demeter
Dionysus
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Poseidon
Zeusthen there were the Egyptian who believed in over 2000 different Gods
then of course there are the Norse Gods
Ægir
Andhrímnir
Aurvandil
Balder
Borr
Bragi
Búri
Caleb
Dagr
Delling
Eir
Elli
Forseti
Freyja
Freyr
Frig
Fulla
Gefjun
Hel
Heimdall
Hermóðr
Hlín
Höðr
Hœnir
Iðunn
Jord
Kvasir
Lofn
Loki
Magni
Máni
Meili
Melissa
Miming
Mímir
Modi
Nanna
Nerthus
Njord
Nótt
Odin
Ótta
Ran
Saga
Sif
Sjöfn
Skaði
Snotra
Sol
Thor
Thrud
Tyr
Ullr
Vali
Var
Vé
Vidar
Vili
Vörthe norse gods even had their own chef god....how good is that?
surely one of these Gods must have been real
even though no-one actually believes in them now
just goes to show you that belief in Gods comes and goes and they all have one thing in common
there wasn't a shred of proof for any of them
Of course there is not a shred of proof, they are not God, they are false gods (inanimate statues and other representatons).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Of course there is not a shred of proof, they are not God, they are false gods (inanimate statues and other representatons).
so jesus isn't just a statue of a bearded chap on a cross...and the bible isn't just a book written by some blokes a long time ago
cause apart from that there aint been much proof of god floatin around has there
oh wait...there was the turin shroud...a rag that actually dated to over 1000 years after jesus was meant to have lived and died
but then i know what you christian think of the concept of time..."a day to God is different to a day to man" type stuff...shame that one falls flat on its face given that it was man who wrote that god made the world in 6 days and not god who wrote that he made the world in 6 days....hence a day to the writer is a day to man....cause the writer was a man....
or something like that
Originally posted by jaden101
so jesus isn't just a statue of a bearded chap on a cross...and the bible isn't just a book written by some blokes a long time agocause apart from that there aint been much proof of god floatin around has there
oh wait...there was the turin shroud...a rag that actually dated to over 1000 years after jesus was meant to have lived and died
but then i know what you christian think of the concept of time..."a day to God is different to a day to man" type stuff...shame that one falls flat on its face given that it was man who wrote that god made the world in 6 days and not god who wrote that he made the world in 6 days....hence a day to the writer is a day to man....cause the writer was a man....
or something like that
No, Jesus is Alive and presently seated at the right hand of His Father in Heaven.
Originally posted by Regret
... Not a good choice of statements to use with JIA.
you cant prove something that is happening now...with a book written nearly 2000 years ago...
that does not compute
although i fear i am about to be bombarded with pointless scripture that was written by people who never saw God sitting with jesus having a bit of a yarn about the folk "down there"
Originally posted by jaden101
you cant prove something that is happening now...with a book written nearly 2000 years ago...that does not compute
although i fear i am about to be bombarded with pointless scripture that was written by people who never saw God sitting with jesus having a bit of a yarn about the folk "down there"
No, on the contrary my friend I will gently assail you (joking) with a passage of "a" person who saw Jesus in Heaven. I mean you are worried about me bombarding you right, with Scriptures that was written by people who never saw God sitting with Jesus right?
Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God ,
Well would you look at that...someone actually saw Jesus at the right hand of God just like I said. Did God cover our bases for us or did God cover our bases for us!
The only reason that Jesus is not sitting is because He is welcoming his very first martyr.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, on the contrary my friend I will gently assail you (joking) with a passage of "a" person who saw Jesus in Heaven. I mean you are worried about me bombarding you right, with Scriptures that was written by people who never saw God sitting with Jesus. right?[B]Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God ,Well would you look at that...someone actually saw Jesus at the right hand of God just like I said. Did God cover our bases for us or did God cover our bases for us! [/B]
and to clarify...when was that written? and to whom does it refer...and did they write it themselves...and is there any proof that it was actually true
Originally posted by jaden101
and to clarify...when was that written? and to whom does it refer...and did they write it themselves...and is there any proof that it was actually true
😆 I knew it! You guys (and gals) are so predictable. Everytime you all think you have me cornered I come through thanks to the Lord. But then you cast doubt on the veracity of my source. Maybe I should do that everytime you guys say something
Originally posted by jaden101
i fear i am about to be bombarded with pointless scripture that was written by people who never saw God sitting with jesus..."
I proved it and once again it got discounted. I bet you didn't think that there existed such an instance of someone who saw Jesus at the right hand of God who, by the way did not write the Book where I got that excerpt from. (Remember this guy was martyred after He saw Jesus standing at His Father's right hand. So he couldn't have written that true account).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
😆 I knew it! You guys (and gals) are so predictable. Everytime you all think you have me cornered I come through thanks to the Lord. But then you cast doubt on the veracity of my source. Maybe I should do that everytime you guys say something
the veracity of your source...its a simple matter of proof is all that we ask
given that your evidence is "But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God"
means that it was written by someone who didn't actually go through the events....3rd person
hence someone told the writer the story...so how does this equate to proof?...it doesn't
its akin to me telling my mate down the pub that i ****ed the ass off britney spears last night...
and he goes and writes
"but he, being of handsome looks and massive phallus, pulled britneys panties down and slipped it in"
doesn't make it true....doesn't make it proof..
let alone making true 2000 years from now
the veracity of your source is the bible....it was written 2000 years ago...how can that be evidence of something you say is the case now?
question
does got speak to you???
Originally posted by jaden101
the veracity of your source...its a simple matter of proof is all that we askgiven that your evidence is "But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God"
means that it was written by someone who didn't actually go through the events....3rd person
hence someone told the writer the story...so how does this equate to proof?...it doesn't
its akin to me telling my mate down the pub that i ****ed the ass off britney spears last night...
and he goes and writes
"but he, being of handsome looks and massive phallus, pulled britneys panties down and slipped it in"
doesn't make it true....doesn't make it proof..
let alone making true 2000 years from now
the veracity of your source is the bible....it was written 2000 years ago...how can that be evidence of something you say is the case now?
question
does got speak to you???
No "got" does not speak to me...nooo...no sir-e-bob. I don't dialogue with gots. However (in an aristocratic tone of voice), my friend God does speak to me.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
😆 I knew it! You guys (and gals) are so predictable. Everytime you all think you have me cornered I come through thanks to the Lord. But then you cast doubt on the veracity of my source. Maybe I should do that everytime you guys say something
Well you do link us to chicktracts.. We have already discredited that source which basically also discredits any other source you use.
Originally posted by crazy
Well you do link us to chicktracts.. We have already discredited that source which basically also discredits any other source you use.
Not so fast cornfritter (I am just joking but if this offends you let me know and I will ask an administrator if this can be deleted), I don't agree with you that any of Jack Chick's tracts have been discredited. By the way here is Jack's bio.
Biography of Jack Chick
From early childhood, it was obvious that Jack Chick had an ability to draw. He even failed the first grade because he was so busy drawing airplanes in battle. As he grew, Jack was constantly drawing, and honing skills that God would later use in a great way.
While in high school, none of the Christians would have anything to do with him because of his bad language. They all agreed not to witness to him, convinced that he was the last guy on earth who would ever accept Jesus Christ.
After graduation from High School, Jack won a scholarship to the Pasadena Playhouse to study acting, but his studies were interrupted by the military. He spent the next three years in the Army, which took him to foreign countries like New Guinea, Australia, the Philippines and Japan.
After being discharged from the service, Jack returned to the Playhouse, where he met and married his wife, Lynn, who was instrumental in his salvation. While visiting Lynn’s parents in Canada on their honeymoon, Jack’s mother-in-law insisted that he sit and listen to Charles E. Fuller’s Old Fashioned Revival Hour radio program. Jack recalls, "God was already working on my heart, but when Fuller said the words, "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow," I fell on my knees and my life was changed forever."
Once married, Jack used his artistic talents to earn a living. He had always longed to be a professional cartoonist, but now as a Christian, he desired to use his artistic talents for the Lord.
While working at AstroScience Corporation in El Monte, California, Jack was sitting in his car reading a copy of Power From On High by Charles Finney, which an old welder had given him. He remembers, "That book pushed my button. I went to church and saw all the deadness and hypocrisy, and I thought, ‘that’s why there’s no revival.’ So I started making these little sketches. My burden was so heavy to wake Christians up to pray for revival."
He couldn’t find a publisher who was willing to print his book, so Jack borrowed $800 from the credit union and paid for the first printing of Why No Revival?
Right after the book was printed, he was driving down the road, when his eyes were drawn to a group of teens on the sidewalk. Jack remembers, "At the time, I didn’t like teenagers or their rebellion. But, all of a sudden, the power of God hit me and my heart broke and I was overcome with the realization that these teens were probably on their way to hell. With tears pouring down my face, I pulled my car off the road and wrote as fast as I could, as God poured the story into my mind."
Within 15 minutes, A Demon's Nightmare was written. After going home and drawing the art, Jack Chick’s very first soul winning gospel tract was completed. God miraculously used the owner of the company Jack worked for to pay for the first printing of this new soul winning book.
One day, Bob Hammond, missionary broadcaster of The Voice of China and Asia, told Jack that multitudes of Chinese people had been won to Communism through mass distribution of cartoon booklets. Jack felt that God was leading him to use the same technique to win multitudes to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Not long after, he was invited to present the gospel to a group of inmates at a prison near his home. He drew several pieces of cartoon art and prepared a flip chart to illustrate what he was saying. At the conclusion of his message, nine of the eleven inmates present trusted Christ as their Saviour. Jack became convinced that God had given him a method of reaching people with the gospel that worked. That art was later put into booklet form and became the tract This Was Your Life!
Using his kitchen table as an office and art studio, Jack continued writing new tracts, as God gave them to him. Throughout the rough early years, he persevered as many bookstores were reluctant to accept this revolutionary concept. Jack recalls, "We were having a tough time out there. A lot of the bookstores were really outraged at some guy using these cartoons to present the gospel. They thought it was sacrilegious."
But demand for the tracts increased, and Chick Publications was formed as a self-supporting ministry. The Lord assembled a dedicated staff and the work grew. Soon, people began wanting Chick tracts in other languages, and the ministry became international in scope.
For nearly forty years, the work has flourished. Jack Chick has written and published hundreds of illustrated gospel tracts in close to one hundred different languages. Copies of Chick tracts were even requested by the Smithsonian Institute for a display on American culture. Hundreds of millions of copies have been read world-wide.
Proof of the effectiveness of Chick tracts is the fact that testimonies continue to pour in from around the world. Many current testimonies cover two or even three generations. People recount how Chick tracts were instrumental in their salvation thirty years ago, then in their children’s salvation and now in the salvation of their grandchildren.
Partially because of Jack’s travels overseas while in the military, he has always had a special burden for missions and missionaries. The sights he saw in New Guinea and other countries left an indelible mark in his brain. He thrills each time a new tract is translated into a foreign language. His burden has always been to get the gospel into the hands of millions of lost people around the world. He wanted to be a missionary himself, but his new wife wanted no part of missionary life. Her aunt had been a missionary in Africa. While pregnant, she was being carried across a river on a stretcher, when one of those carrying her lost a leg to an alligator.
But God had other plans. He wanted Jack to stay home and produce effective gospel literature that missionaries could use to win the lost. As a result, many missionaries love Chick tracts and use them to reach multitudes they could never reach one on one.
Today, nearly forty years after writing his first tract, God is still giving Jack Chick new gospel tracts. In fact, he is now producing some of his most popular work. As of this writing, five of the ten most popular Chick tracts in stock have been written in the last year or two.
Today, Jack labors without the love and support of his wife, Lynn. On February 10, 1998, his love of 50 years went home to be with the Lord.
Summary
A pastor who recently called us summed up the life and ministry of Jack Chick quite well. He said, "The thing I appreciate most about Jack Chick is that thirty years ago when I read my first Chick tract, it was a pure soul winning tract, presenting the gospel in a simple format that anyone could understand. Today, thirty years later, he hasn’t changed a bit. While many other Christian leaders have left soul winning far behind, Jack Chick is still faithfully producing easy-to-understand soul winning gospel tracts with a salvation message that anyone can understand. He has never swerved or strayed from his calling to share the gospel with the lost multitudes around the world."
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No "got" does not speak to me...nooo...no sir-e-bob. I don't dialogue with gots. However (in an aristocratic tone of voice), my friend God does speak to me.
a typo...i'm going to hell
😄
ok...we live in an age where we have the technology to record stuff...why not get some of his words of infinite wisdom on a disc and amaze the world?