As a thor and hulk fan Id have to take war hulk. thor inwarrior madness lost to the maestro and in that fight he intended to kill the maestro. The maestro however took his all out attacks. Since war hulk is reputed to be the second strongest hulk after wwh I think he should win without much trouble. thor savage hulk however i think is an even one
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Which goes on to prove that Thor is nothing wthout the hammer. Thanks for proving that he is no match for the top tiers without it. Scans of Hulk beating Thor up are in this thread, chck em out Guy provided them earlier, or did you miss that?I also noticed that you only said that Thor could take out the Abomination, and Creel.... what about Cain as well? I mean without BFR. Are you saying that he would win?
It doesn't matter whether or not Thor can't take Top tiers physically, this is common knowledge to everyone. We ALL knew that Thor's hammer is part of what made him a High Herald.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=451734&pagenumber=8
Every single Thor/Hulk fight, COMPLETE scans. Not two or three images completely out of context.
As for the Juggernaut, neither Hulk nor Thor can actually kill him or knock him out. War Hulk has stopped him and Thor has pushed him back. This is NOT the same as actually beating up or defeating the Juggernait. It's the same as stopping his forward momentum.
Thor fighting the Maestro in supposed "warrior madness" that he was somehow able to get right into and out of in a second, is not a testament to WarHulk being stronger or weaker. IT IS SIMPLY IRRELEVANT.
Originally posted by llagrok
It doesn't matter whether or not Thor can't take Top tiers physically, this is common knowledge to everyone. We ALL knew that Thor's hammer is part of what made him a High Herald.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=451734&pagenumber=8
Every single Thor/Hulk fight, COMPLETE scans. Not two or three images completely out of context.
As for the Juggernaut, neither Hulk nor Thor can actually kill him or knock him out. War Hulk has stopped him and Thor has pushed him back. This is NOT the same as actually beating up or defeating the Juggernait. It's the same as stopping his forward momentum.
Thor fighting the Maestro in supposed "warrior madness" that he was somehow able to get right into and out of in a second, is not a testament to WarHulk being stronger or weaker. IT IS SIMPLY IRRELEVANT.
All i was trying to say was that it is a comon belief that warhulk is stronger than the maestro. and that if the maestro thor fight is taken as legit then it could be said that WH is greater than thor as well. Whther the fight was legit is debatable however
Originally posted by ultimatethor
All i was trying to say was that it is a comon belief that warhulk is stronger than the maestro. and that if the maestro thor fight is taken as legit then it could be said that WH is greater than thor as well. Whther the fight was legit is debatable however
No, it's not.
It happened in an Alternate universe.
Originally posted by Alfheim
...I dont think any of the fights were with an upgraded hulk excpet one where he foguht Professor Hulk.....Like what lightning, and teleportation? There are examples of him suing it in fights with the Hulk.
And, if Hulk can rip the armor off of his body, so can Thor and MANY others.
Sorry guys. This is a no-win for War.
Thor has ridiculous powers. He really has been written as a "God". He is actually too powerful. That is why they write him as not using all his powers usually. It just wouldn't be any fun.
umm, Marvel state Hulk as being stronger. regular Savage Hulk and Thor are on a par (for as long as Hulk remains 'calm'😉, WarHulk, WWH, Maestro etc are just far stronger than Thor.
hell Marvel states Hulk is "The Strongest One There Is". and this is before WWH started up.
you have to be more than a little bit biased to even suggest that Hulk isn't >> Thor, when it comes to physical attributes such as strength and stamina 😐.
got the quote?
Stan Lee has said that Hulk is the strongest, that there's no limit to his strength, which has also been shown in feats with consistency. Thor's been shown to fail to match strength with characters, chief amongst them Juggernaut. Hulk has bested Juggernaut, out-strengthed him and stopped his forward momentum. something Thor only matched with a GodBlast.
and it's not only Stan Lee who said Hulk's the strongest, The Beyonder has said as much, as has The Stranger, as have a lot of other characters in comics.
Thor isn't even stronger than Thanos, who he managed to do jack to in "Warrior Madness", so I want to see the quote and the context. I doubt your reading of things.
Even Loki says so
It's also hilarious to see how your simple ****ing mind is incapable of comprehending the simple fact that being the strongest necessarily give the Hulk a win. Odin would lose to the Hulk in an arm wrestling contest, but he can still turn the Hulk into goo.
Originally posted by llagrok
Even Loki says soIt's also hilarious to see how your simple ****ing mind is incapable of comprehending the simple fact that being the strongest necessarily give the Hulk a win. Odin would lose to the Hulk in an arm wrestling contest, but he can still turn the Hulk into goo.
and that scan is rather pathetic, all it's saying is how Loki perceives Thor.
when you can show The Beyonder or someone of some real power, saying that about Thor, then just maybe you'll have a point.
as it stands Hulk >>> Thor, physically.
Originally posted by llagrok
Even Loki says soIt's also hilarious to see how your simple ****ing mind is incapable of comprehending the simple fact that being the strongest necessarily give the Hulk a win. Odin would lose to the Hulk in an arm wrestling contest, but he can still turn the Hulk into goo.
Odin wouldn't lose to Hulk in a test of strength considering like Hulk he's capable of amping his strength to near infinite degrees via the Odin Power.
Originally posted by janus77
'grok you're in no position to comment on anyone's intellect or comprehension skills.
I'm a lot older than you (or at least I'm led to infer this, given your past conduct and foolishness) so I refrain from ridiculing you too much but honestly, you are very wanting in both departments. as well as that pissy little temper of yours. leave the sneering superiority to those who are actually rather superior 🙂.and that scan is rather pathetic, all it's saying is how Loki perceives Thor.
when you can show The Beyonder or someone of some real power, saying that about Thor, then just maybe you'll have a point.
as it stands Hulk >>> Thor, physically.
Hulk >>> Thor, um who cares? When did strength become the only meaningful attribute when discussing vs battles?
Anyways, I'e provided these scans once already, but Hulk was never portrayed as much stronger than Thor.
Thor has lifted more weight than Hulk.
Stan Lee ALSO said Thor is the strongest.
Saying that the Beyonder and the Stranger have opinions to adhere to, but Loki does not, is simply crazy talk.
None of them actually exists! When any of these characters say something, it is always to get their thoughts across.
Whether it is Loki or Stranger.
War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut. He through him with his own momentum.
Originally posted by Horrificus
He has shown the ability to teleport,
Right and War Hulk is just going to let him do that?
Originally posted by Horrificus
fire all different kinds of energy blasts, control lightning, and manipulate different kinds of energy.That is the whole point to him being a "God". He has even shown the abilty to manipulate matter and mind-control.
nad hulk is resistant to energy, mind control and matter manipulation. 😐
Originally posted by Horrificus
It has been stated by the early writers, including Stan the Man that Thor was meant to be the most powerful character in their lineup. He had all these abilities and more since the beginning.
And, according to forum rules, he gets to be considered at his best during this fight, utilizing all that is available to him.
If we list all the feats, weapons and abilities of both, Thor comes out on top.
Anything other than what we saw War Hulk do, is just conjecture.And, if Hulk can rip the armor off of his body, so can Thor and MANY others.
Sorry guys. This is a no-win for War.
Thor has ridiculous powers. He really has been written as a "God". He is actually too powerful. That is why they write him as not using all his powers usually. It just wouldn't be any fun.
If it was that easy to rip off it wouyld have fallen off in the conflict.
Originally posted by Larceny
Juggernaut never tried to rip it off. 😐
No he didnt but if something can get ripped off easily it can easily come off in a scuffle. When War Hulk was fighting Juggernaut, Juggernaut was using all his strength, if the armour was that flimsy it would have come off.
Originally posted by llagrok
Apoc's tech >>> Cyttorak's magic
Didnt they just show you a scan with War Hulk stopping Jugss?
