Originally posted by AlfheimThe writer of that storyline even said that War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut. He threw him.
Right and War Hulk is just going to let him do that?nad hulk is resistant to energy, mind control and matter manipulation. 😐
If it was that easy to rip off it wouyld have fallen off in the conflict.
No he didnt but if something can get ripped off easily it can easily come off in a scuffle. When War Hulk was fighting Juggernaut, Juggernaut was using all his strength, if the armour was that flimsy it would have come off.
Didnt they just show you a scan with War Hulk stopping Jugss?
And, since when is Hulk resistant to energy and matter manipulation?
Try Never.
As far as ripping off the armor, if Hulk can do it, Juggs and Thor can.
Since it was not shown that there was any special password or switch, we have to take the on-panel action as fact. He tore off the armor.
Seriously, are you saying that he pressed the "Be able to tear off the armor" button?
Juggernaut was not interested in tearing off the armor, because he was too busy posturing, since he has always been able to bully the Hulk around. And, always will be.
All the war armor has been shown to do, is have a tentacle, make Hulk stronger, and give him a sword.
That's it. There is absolutely nothing on panel that shows he can BEAT Juggernaut or Thor.
Nothing.
Originally posted by Horrificus
The writer of that storyline even said that War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut. He threw him.And, since when is Hulk resistant to energy and matter manipulation?
Try Never.As far as ripping off the armor, if Hulk can do it, Juggs and Thor can.
Since it was not shown that there was any special password or switch, we have to take the on-panel action as fact. He tore off the armor.
Seriously, are you saying that he pressed the "Be able to tear off the armor" button?
Juggernaut was not interested in tearing off the armor, because he was too busy posturing, since he has always been able to bully the Hulk around. And, always will be.
All the war armor has been shown to do, is have a tentacle, make Hulk stronger, and give him a sword.
That's it. There is absolutely nothing on panel that shows he can BEAT Juggernaut or Thor.
Nothing.
Look I agree that thor would beat pretty much any version of hulk even war hulk can be defeated via bfr.War hulk DID stop juggernaut there is nothing you can do to take that feat away from him.
Originally posted by Horrificus
The writer of that storyline said that War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut.
The issue in question did show Juggernaut stopped. What the writer claims afterwards is irrelevant if the image itself indisputably shows otherwise.
Originally posted by Horrificus
He threw him.
Afterwards, yes...
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
The issue in question did show Juggernaut stopped. What the writer claims afterwards is irrelevant if the image itself indisputably shows otherwise.Afterwards, yes...
To say that what the writer says is irrelevant is ridiculous. Who are you to say that, and expect others to have to go along with that.
Geez. If it works like that, I say that the Juggernaut won that fight by using his "lay down and get his helmet popped off" move! Yup, I interpret that as a win for Juggernaut. 😄
You are probably also one of those fanboys that says that when WWH was glowing he was at his most powerful, because he was glowing. Hehe.
Wishful thinking and artistic interpretation have no place in this forum.
It is what it is on panel. Feats are more important than your love of a character.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Guess what...
The panel that you say shows Juggernaut "STOPPED", looks the same as the previous panel.
The panel was never shown to depict Juggernaut being stopped, and it doesn't.
It was just a build up to the big throw.To say that what the writer says is irrelevant is ridiculous. Who are you to say that, and expect others to have to go along with that.
Geez. If it works like that, I say that the Juggernaut won that fight by using his "lay down and get his helmet popped off" move! Yup, I interpret that as a win for Juggernaut. 😄
You are probably also one of those fanboys that says that when WWH was glowing he was at his most powerful, because he was glowing. Hehe.
Wishful thinking and artistic interpretation have no place in this forum.
It is what it is on panel. Feats are more important than your love of a character.
1.Read the naration it talks about juggs being loyal to two things Black Tom cassidy and secondly that he is unstoppable
2.Look at the scans as war is being pushed back you can clearly see dust being kicked up and rocks moving around.
3.We get to the scan that says until he is clearly stopped here, how can you say that scan looks like the others no dust is being kicked up no rocks are moving you can see the mound of dirt behind his foot hulk is completely stopped as is juggs.
4.Look at juggs face and the fact that he says impossible unless you implying that hulk throwing jugss is why he said impossible because hulk has thrown juggs before wiped him around like a tornado and thrown him into the side of a mountain so there is no reason juggs would be suprised by that.
You like to attack anyone who debates for the hulk or call them a fanboy yet you have this ungoldly hate for the character that does not even let you acknowledge his feats when thier staring you right in the face.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Who are you to say that.
I had no choice. The art had a gun and forced me.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Geez. If it works like that, I say that the Juggernaut won that fight by using his "lay down and get his helmet popped off" move! Yup, I interpret that as a win for Juggernaut. 😄
Originally posted by Horrificus
You are probably also one of those fanboys that says that when WWH was glowing he was at his most powerful, because he was glowing. Hehe.Feats are more important than your love of a character.
LOL @ you thinking I'm a Hulk fanboy.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Your kidding right1.Read the naration it talks about juggs being loyal to two things Black Tom cassidy and secondly that he is unstoppable
2.Look at the scans as war is being pushed back you can clearly see dust being kicked up and rocks moving around.
3.We get to the scan that says [B]until
he is clearly stopped here, how can you say that scan looks like the others no dust is being kicked up no rocks are moving you can see the mound of dirt behind his foot hulk is completely stopped as is juggs.4.Look at juggs face and the fact that he says impossible unless you implying that hulk throwing jugss is why he said impossible because hulk has thrown juggs before wiped him around like a tornado and thrown him into the side of a mountain so there is no reason juggs would be suprised by that.
You like to attack anyone who debates for the hulk or call them a fanboy yet you have this ungoldly hate for the character that does not even let you acknowledge his feats when thier staring you right in the face. [/B]
As far as the stopping Juggernaut thing goes, these are the last 2 panels that show what is happening with their movement:
Hulk being moved backward, (note the broken ground behind his heel):
Juggernaut moving forward, right up to the moment he was thrown, (note that there is no sign of stress, broken ground or anything):
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Your kidding right1.Read the naration it talks about juggs being loyal to two things Black Tom cassidy and secondly that he is unstoppable
2.Look at the scans as war is being pushed back you can clearly see dust being kicked up and rocks moving around.
3.We get to the scan that says [B]until
he is clearly stopped here, how can you say that scan looks like the others no dust is being kicked up no rocks are moving you can see the mound of dirt behind his foot hulk is completely stopped as is juggs.4.Look at juggs face and the fact that he says impossible unless you implying that hulk throwing jugss is why he said impossible because hulk has thrown juggs before wiped him around like a tornado and thrown him into the side of a mountain so there is no reason juggs would be suprised by that.
You like to attack anyone who debates for the hulk or call them a fanboy yet you have this ungoldly hate for the character that does not even let you acknowledge his feats when thier staring you right in the face. [/B]
And, if anybody would like to see how the fight really ended, after Hulk threw Juggernaut, here is a link that gives some panels and a synopsis:
What really happened.
Hulk had been getting slapped around up until he threw Juggernaut, and then, after Hulk threw Juggernaut, it did absolutely NOTHING.
Juggernaut was fine, and ready to continue the fight, until he was blindsided by the X-Men.
Originally posted by Horrificus
War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut. He through him with his own momentum.
I think you're thinking of WWH. Even Thor can throw/knock Juggernaut around so that's nothing new.
I honestly don't see how/why WWH is supposed to be more powerful than War however. If anything, the Celestial tech would allow War to access strength easier without going crazier. Add in the enhancements that that batch of Horsemen had and WWH and his Warbound would be joining the other heroes in the arena.
Originally posted by Horrificus
And, if anybody would like to see how the fight really ended, after Hulk threw Juggernaut, here is a link that gives some panels and a synopsis:
What really happened.Hulk had been getting slapped around up until he threw Juggernaut, and then, after Hulk threw Juggernaut, it did absolutely NOTHING.
Juggernaut was fine, and ready to continue the fight, until he was blindsided by the X-Men.
What are you talking about that was not to show that the hulk beat the juggernaut it was to illustrate that hulk has thrown him before he would not be suprised by it and say impossible.He said that because the war hulk did what he thought was impossible which was to stop the unstoppable.You seem to have me confused with someone who cares if hulk can beat juggernaut thor or whatever I am merely trying to show you that hulk did stop juggs and whether you CHOOSE to believe it or not what change anything.
You don't notice the difference between the first two and the last one how is the juggernaut still pushing the hulk in the last one.I guess the dirt and rocks in the last panel is super strong dirt so its doesn't move like the dirt and rocks in the first two panels and juggs is pushing the hulk over it. 🙄
Notice how juggs is pushing the hulk he is leaning forward and pushing.
Now look at his leg not only is it not moving but it is straight what is moving in the picture is what hulk uses to throw him with after he is stopped.
Getting bored with how incorrect you are.
If Juggernaut is as strong as he is supposed to be, and he was pushing, and the object was not moving, all that energy would be transferred back to his own steps. The close-up of his feet would show his feet digging into the ground, or some effect being transferred to the ground.
It's not.
For now, we will just have to agree, to agree with what I am saying. 😉
Happy New Year Everybody!cheers
Originally posted by Horrificus
Getting bored with how incorrect you are.If Juggernaut is as strong as he is supposed to be, and he was pushing, and the object was not moving, all that energy would be transferred back to his own steps. The close-up of his feet would show his feet digging into the ground, or some effect being transferred to the ground.
It's not.For now, we will just have to agree, to agree with what I am saying. 😉
Happy New Year Everybody!cheers
Hey its cool everyone else is wrong and your right 🙂 you have the mysterious power to look at the same thing we are all looking at and come to a completely different conclusion Your fighting the good fight anyhow I am done with this for tonight.
