Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, all cases of pedophilia equate to rape, as I mentioned repeatedly, children and teenagers want to do many, many things that 'we' as society restrict them to because we realize that maturity comes with age. If we allowed children/teenagers to do anything they wanted, we would not exist as a species or at the very least society would be anarchy. Think back when you were 14, how many stupid things did you want to do that in hindsight, you're lucky you were forbidden to do?
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Dude...this is never going to end. If CONSENT is there, then it is not Rape. What you're saying is purely opinion, and you are no longer introducing Fact into your argument.
Rape- forced sex; sex without consent.
Sex between adult and teenager with consent does NOT fall under this category.
According to your logic, one can argue that Peadophilia is inappropriate sex. Okay fine,...you have supplied enough argument to validify that conclusion...but you have provided nothing to conclude that all cases of Peadophilia are rape.
You just keep saying "teenagers are not responsible" and it means nothing. Consent is consent. If it's there, there's no Rape. End of story.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, children shouldn't be punished for having sex with an adult, if a child comes on to you and makes sex, it is up to you as the adult as the more experienced and mature person to not allow them their every whim. Just as if a 14 year old ask you to buy them cigarettes or a 40oz of Old English, even if they cry, kick, stomp their feet and yell they know what they are doing and realize the consequences. A difference between children, teenagers and adults.
How do you equate having sex with smoking a cigerette ? The two are completely different actions, you are making poor analogies again...
Yes. There is a major difference between a child, teenager, and adult. ✅ OMG we finally agree on something.
A 14 year old is not a child....it's a teenager. Thanks for backing me up 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
My point being that children are not mature enough to give constent for everything, they lack the 'wisdom' if you will that an older person has.
Children cannot give consent when they do not know what sex is or want it. Teenagers can ✅
Consent doesn't need "wisdom" that's a bunch of bullshit. As if ALL adult consent is based on "wisdom" HA ! What a fkn joke !
Consent is permission...nothing more, nothing less. Are you done, or are you going to keep vomitting more personal bias that lacks fact ?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
LOLOLOLDude...this is never going to end. If [b]CONSENT
is there, then it is not Rape. What you're saying is purely opinion, and you are no longer introducing Fact into your argument.Rape- forced sex; sex without consent.
Sex between adult and teenager with consent does NOT fall under this category.
According to your logic, one can argue that Peadophilia is inappropriate sex. Okay fine,...you have supplied enough argument to validify that conclusion...but you have provided nothing to conclude that all cases of Peadophilia are rape.
You just keep saying "teenagers are not responsible" and it means nothing. Consent is consent. If it's there, there's no Rape. End of story.
How do you equate having sex with smoking a cigerette ? The two are completely different actions, you are making poor analogies again...
Yes. There is a major difference between a child, teenager, and adult. ✅ OMG we finally agree on something.
A 14 year old is not a child....it's a teenager. Thanks for backing me up 👆
Children cannot give consent when they do not know what sex is or want it. Teenagers can ✅
Consent doesn't need "wisdom" that's a bunch of bullshit. As if ALL adult consent is based on "wisdom" HA ! What a fkn joke !
Consent is permission...nothing more, nothing less. Are you done, or are you going to keep vomitting more personal bias that lacks fact ? [/B]
And you have yet to answer why we shouldn't allow teenagers to do anything they want like an adult if they give consent for it, since giving consent is equal to saying 'I understand the consequences and I take responsibility for my actions'?
Originally posted by Robtard
And you have yet to answer why we shouldn't allow teenagers to do anything they want like an adult if they give consent for it, since giving consent is equal to saying 'I understand the consequences and I take responsibility for my actions'?
1) When did you ask that ? I didn't say we should let teenagers do whatever they want...do what they want, as long as they aren't hurting anyone. 👆
Last I checked, sex with birth control and after getting tested never hurt anyone.
2) Wrong 👇
Consent is giving someone permission. It's saying " I want you to f*ck me"...nothing more nothing less.
Educated Consent is saying "'I understand the consequences and I take responsibility for my actions'
Ne ways, you say it's okay when a 14 year old has sex with another 14 year old, but do you think all 14 year olds tell eachother "'I understand the consequences and I take responsibility for my actions'
If you think that, you're deluded 🙄
Originally posted by Robtard
No logical answer then?
Well, it is about consent, and if a person cannot give consent they cannot have sex (or buy things...or...). 12 seems like a reasonable age since people usually can estimate what their actions will do. So I thought 12 sounded reasonable. Best would be to judge in each individual case, but that is kinda impossible, so I think 12 is certainly a line that grants the most freedom with the fewest problems. I mean you don't need to have sex with a 30 year old at 12, you should have the possibility though.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Gave up already ?Damn ❌
The argument was just getting better.
No, I asked him if he had a logical answer instead of some half sarcastic remark.
Regardless though, we are spinning in circles, you two believe that a 12 year old (14 in your case) is mature enough to realize the consequences of having sex like an adult and with an adult. I do not and luckily for those 12+ year olds, society realizes that sexual maturity and maturity in general comes with age. I know, I know... 'Society is wrong' you will say and think.
Originally posted by Robtard
No, I asked him if he had a logical answer instead of some half sarcastic remark.Regardless though, we are spinning in circles, you two believe that a 12 year old (14 in your case) is mature enough to realize the consequences of having sex like an adult and with an adult. I do not and luckily for those 12+ year olds, society realizes that sexual maturity and maturity in general comes with age. I know, I know... 'Society is wrong' you will say and think.
Well, in Canada it says 14.
And this is an argument about what should be. I am sure Urizen and I understand that it is not like we say it should be. But you can't really use that as an argument, eh?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I mean it is an argument about what should be. So what is doesn't really matter, does it?
Because when people think something "should be" it can become reality or a "what is"... What's the point of debating then? What type of debate would we have if we were all like JesusIsAlive and just logged in here to copy/paste others thoughts and then run when we're cornered by our own ignorance on said subjects.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because when people think something "should be" it can become reality... What's the point of debating then? What type of debate would we have if we were all like JesusIsAlive and just logged in here to copy/paste others thoughts and then run when we're cornered by our own ignorance on said subjects.
What are you proposing?
We know that it is 16 in most countries. We can stop a discussion about what is there. But we are talking about what the Party is saying and what we think it should be. We give arguments foir that...and..well...all in all we are having a debate. What's your problem with that?
Originally posted by Bardock42
What are you proposing?We know that it is 16 in most countries. We can stop a discussion about what is there. But we are talking about what the Party is saying and what we think it should be. We give arguments foir that...and..well...all in all we are having a debate. What's your problem with that?
Ok... If you haven't noticed I am/was debating against what the pedophile party wants and why I think their views are wrong and I gave examples. Not sure where you're going with this now?