The Conservative Agenda

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's not really that much of a myth. People with menial and low paying jobs have those jobs because they either lack the intelligence for a high paying career path, they lack the motivation, or Lady Luck has decided to take a giant dump on them.

If the guy who pumps my gas was a genius he wouldn't be pumping my gas.

I am glad you brought this point up X ✅

Now I get to answer something more direct than general.

In the United States the majority of lower class happen to be what? Black and Hispanic. The minority of the lower class happens to be white.

So according to your short argument, blacks and hispanics, for the most part, are uneducated, lazy, and lack the intelligence necessary to higher thier class as a whole.

And according to that same logic, only a FEW blacks and hispanics are actually that smart and worked hard enough to get out of the "ghetto".

And again, according to your argument, the majority of intelligent, educated, and hardworking people happen to be white. 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I am glad you brought this point up X ✅

Now I get to answer something more direct than general.

In the United States the majority of lower class happen to be what? Black and Hispanic. The minority of the lower class happens to be white.

So according to your short argument, blacks and hispanics, for the most part, are uneducated, lazy, and lack the intelligence necessary to higher thier class as a whole.

And according to that same logic, only a FEW blacks and hispanics are actually that smart and worked hard enough to get out of the "ghetto".

And again, according to your argument, the majority of intelligent, educated, and hardworking people happen to be white. 😉

And?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, are you some kind of idiotic idiot?

There are racial words for whites as well, "honkey", "cracker" ..it's just that they are not harsh, cause no white would ****ing care if called anything like that.

Now "white trash" describes uneducated poor whites and the question is, why is there no such thing as "black trash"? Well, seems obvious to me, but go ahead, try yourself what reactions you will get when talking about "black trash" to other people.

Words like redneck, cracker, honkey, and white trash were invented as backlashing terms in response to terms such as ******, spic, and chink.

Does that lessen them as an insult? No...there is no justification for using either racial slang. However, ask yourself..why does a white person not really care about being called those words?

Answer: Because whites are dominant in the United States, and whites have not been oppressed for being white. Blacks and Hispanics have been oppressed as a whole, simply for being the race they are. The words "n*gger" and "sp*c" come with the history behind them.

What history comes behind the words redneck and cracker? Not much....

As for your second question:

Why is there no term "black trash"...because my freind. You seem to agree with me that "white trash" is an insult meaning poor white person. The words n*gger and sp*c already encompass the entirety of being black and hispanic, and one of the major assossiations with being black and hispanic is poverty.

Unforunately, by many close minded standards, being White is assossiated with wealth. Therefore, when a white person does not live up to that standard, they are targets. White Trash is not an insult used to insult WHITE people in general...it is used to insult POOR white people...as if being a poor white person is only being half white, or half important. 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Words like redneck, cracker, honkey, and white trash were invented as backlashing terms in response to terms such as ******, spic, and chink.

Does that lessen them as an insult? No...there is no justification for using either racial slang. However, ask yourself..why does a white person not really care about being called those words?

Answer: Because whites are dominant in the United States, and whites have not been oppressed for being white. Blacks and Hispanics have been oppressed as a whole, simply for being the race they are. The words "n*gger" and "sp*c" come with the history behind them.

What history comes behind the words redneck and cracker? Not much....

As for your second question:

Why is there no term "black trash"...because my freind. You seem to agree with me that "white trash" is an insult meaning poor white person. The words n*gger and sp*c already encompass the entirety of being black and hispanic, and one of the major assossiations with being black and hispanic is poverty.

Unforunately, by many close minded standards, being White is assossiated with wealth. Therefore, when a white person does not live up to that standard, they are targets. White Trash is not an insult used to insult WHITE people in general...it is used to insult POOR white people...as if being a poor white person is only being half white, or half important. 😉

Nah, how do either ****** or spic imply poverty...maybe in your racist mind?

Also, white trash is not jsut "poor" white people, it's a certain image....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
In the United States the majority of lower class happen to be what? Black and Hispanic. The minority of the lower class happens to be white.

wrong. the majority is white. granted, proportionately there are more poor blacks to afluent blacks as opposed to whites. false figures make people suck at the internet.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And again, according to your argument, the majority of intelligent, educated, and hardworking people happen to be white. 😉

in america, that is true. when you do the math instead of aproach this with a high horse attitude, ready to label everyone a racist, common sense should kick in and tell you that the majority of americans are white. therefore the majority of people who are hardworking are white. the majority who intelligent people are white, the majority of people who wack off with their left hand are white....see where i'm going with this? besides the gutter with the whacking off reference?

Originally posted by Bardock42
And?

And....it clears the myth that low class are lazy. That is not the case.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And....it clears the myth that low class are lazy. That is not the case.

Not lazy, just not as mentally gifted...and not all..but the majority jsut aren't able to produce enough value.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, how do either ****** or spic imply poverty...maybe in your racist mind?

Also, white trash is not jsut "poor" whit epeople, it's a certain imag....

I am not Racist.

The terms "n*gger" and "spic" are insults used to distort and stereotype the identities of being Black and Hispanic. Poverty is one of the stereotypes assossiated with being black or hispanic.

White Trash is an insult describing poor or eneducated white people.

Redneck does not mean a poor white person, it is an insult meaning an ignorant and isolated white person.

I am not encouraging these insults. I am revealing to you the standards behind them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not lazy, just not as mentally gifted...and not all..but the majority jsut aren't able to produce enough value.

Well atleast you revealed the amount of Ignorance you carry. To classify an entire low class as simply non intelligent and of less value..that is exactly what Ultra Right Wingers want you to beleive, and you fell right for the trap.

Good Job 👇

Dumbass

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And....it clears the myth that low class are lazy. That is not the case.

Originally posted by PVS
but many are. i agree that said laziness is a product of hopelessness and despair, i wont pretend that the underclass are in the constant state of being ****ed over, but the end product, regardless of cause, is what it is: sloth.

Sloth....a sin, huh? An invention dude, the word means nothing.

Do you notice how highly funded schools are usually located in a predominantly white area? Even in New York !

And in areas like the Bronx, and areas where most of the people are hispanic or black, the funds are low and almost useless.

Now...what's the reason for that?

And you even said the Low Class are in the constant state of being ****ed over....think now.......who fuks them over?

Originally posted by Arcana
This is just a standard question... but I am assuming you can back all this up?

What i said, yes I can back up. Ask me specifically what you would like me to elaborate on, and I'd be happy to do so. 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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Well atleast you revealed the amount of Ignorance you carry. To classify an entire low class as simply non intelligent and of less value..that is exactly what Ultra Right Wingers want you to beleive, and you fell right for the trap.

Good Job 👇

Dumbass

Reading is not your strong point, right?

I am currently working in a factory, in the metal workshop and the people around there are decent and good hardworking people. And I have the outmost respect for them, but the matter of the fact is that they are just not able to bring the mental performance that is needed to earn more money (and deserve it).

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Sloth....a sin, huh? An invention dude, the word means nothing.

Do you notice how highly funded schools are usually located in a predominantly white area? Even in New York !

And in areas like the Bronx, and areas where most of the people are hispanic or black, the funds are low and almost useless.

Now...what's the reason for that?

And you even said the Low Class are in the constant state of being ****ed over....think now.......who fuks them over?

sloth is a word which means laziness and inactivity. you are the one who tagged on a bible-beating theme to it, just so you could run with it. ANYWAY it does mean something. just what it is: sloth. you can continue to put words in people's mouths and point your mighty and rightous finger of truthiness, but if you just put your feet on the ground and pull your head out of------the clouds, you may see that the real failure in communication is that you fail to debate with anything resembling objectivity. i think the term "ZOMG!!!111" was invented just for you 😬

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Do you notice how highly funded schools are usually located in a predominantly white area? Even in New York !

Just to address this one point, I went to a private catholic school and we were considered one of the two best schools in the area and both schools were privately funded. Both also operated on a much smaller budget than does your typical public school. Our school and student body consistantly out did public schools in test scores.

I've wondered about that for a long time. Was it the student body coming from white upperclass families? Was it motivation to suceed in life? Or was it the fact that we had an average student to teacher ratio of about 30 to one and class sizes of 15 to 25 kids in each classroom? I'd say it was the last.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Just to address this one point, I went to a private catholic school and we were considered one of the two best schools in the area and both schools were privately funded. Both also operated on a much smaller budget than does your typical public school. Our school and student body consistantly out did public schools in test scores.

I've wondered about that for a long time. Was it the student body coming from white upperclass families? Was it motivation to suceed in life? Or was it the fact that we had an average student to teacher ratio of about 30 to one and class sizes of 15 to 25 kids in each classroom? I'd say it was the last.

That does not answer the question:

Why is it that higher school funds go to predominantly White area schools, while less of it goes to schools where Blacks and Hispanics are dominant?

Originally posted by PVS
sloth is a word which means laziness and inactivity. you are the one who tagged on a bible-beating theme to it, just so you could run with it. ANYWAY it does mean something. just what it is: sloth. you can continue to put words in people's mouths and point your mighty and rightous finger of truthiness, but if you just put your feet on the ground and pull your head out of------the clouds, you may see that the real failure in communication is that you fail to debate with anything resembling objectivity. i think the term "ZOMG!!!111" was invented just for you 😬

1) I never Bible-beat anyone. I have no tolerance for the Bible, so no false - accusations please.

2) You are DODGING the point. You are judging lower class as lazy, and therefore reasoning thier positions as due to thier being, blaming the Poverty on the Poor...which is exactly what Conservatives want you to beleive, way to go PVS you conformist ! 👇

You are so blind, and think your slick by not actually answering the question:

Why is it that schools where the majority of students are WHITE and the majority of the neighborhood are White, recieve HIGHER FUNDING from the Government than schools where the students and neighborhoods are predominantly black or hispanic?

I would applaud you for ATTEMPTING to answer that .

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I am glad you brought this point up X ✅

Now I get to answer something more direct than general.

In the United States the majority of lower class happen to be what? Black and Hispanic. The minority of the lower class happens to be white.

So according to your short argument, blacks and hispanics, for the most part, are uneducated, lazy, and lack the intelligence necessary to higher thier class as a whole.

And according to that same logic, only a FEW blacks and hispanics are actually that smart and worked hard enough to get out of the "ghetto".

And again, according to your argument, the majority of intelligent, educated, and hardworking people happen to be white. 😉

Frankly I don't care because I know I'm not.

You want to play the statistics game let's play.

POPULATION

14.0 million
The estimated number of U.S. residents in July 2004 who said they were Asian or Asian in combination with one or more other races. This group comprised 5 percent of the total population. California had both the largest population (4.8 million) and the largest numerical increase (123,000) of people of this group since July 2003; Hawaii is the state where Asians made up the highest proportion of the total population (58 percent).

52%
The percentage of the foreign-born from Asia who are naturalized U.S. citizens.

2.3 million
The number of people age 5 and older who speak Chinese at home. After Spanish, Chinese is the most widely spoken non-English language in the country. Tagalog and Vietnamese also have more than 1 million speakers.

213%
The projected percentage increase between 2000 and 2050 in the population of people who identify themselves as Asian. This compares with a 49 percent increase in the population as a whole over the same period of time.

33.4 million
The projected number of U.S. residents in 2050 who will identify themselves as Asians. They would comprise 8 percent of the total population by that year.

EDUCATION

49%
The percentage of Asians, age 25 and older, who have a bachelor's degree or higher level of education. Asians have the highest proportion of college graduates of any race or ethnic group in the country.

87%
The percentage of Asians, age 25 and older, who are high school graduates.

20%
The percentage of Asians, age 25 and older, who have an advanced degree (e.g., Master's, Ph.D., M.D. or J.D.). However, different Asian ethnic groups have different educational attainment levels -- 68 percent of Asian Indians, age 25 and older, had a bachelor's degree or more education and 37 percent had a graduate or professional degree; the corresponding numbers for Vietnamese-Americans were 24 percent and 7 percent, respectively.

INCOME AND POVERTY

$57,518
Median household income for Asians in 2004, the highest among all race groups. However, median household income differed greatly by Asian group. For Asian Indians, for example, the median income in 2004 was $68,771; for Vietnamese-Americans, it was $45,980.

9.8%
Poverty rate for Asians in 2004, down from 11.8 percent in 2003.

WORK AND EMPLOYMENT

1.1 million
Number of businesses owned by Asian-Americans in 2002, up 24 percent from 1997.

$343.3 billion
Receipts of Asian-American-owned businesses in 2002, up 13 percent from 1997. An estimated 319,911 Asian-owned businesses had paid employees; and their receipts totaled $307.6 billion, or about $961,379 per firm. About 28 percent of Asian-American-owned firms were in health care and other services, with another 14 percent each in professional services and retail trade. section.

282,000
The number of Asian-American military veterans.

46%
The proportion of employed Asians 16 and older who work in management, professional and related occupations, such as financial managers, engineers, teachers and registered nurses.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Why is it that schools where the majority of students are WHITE and the majority of the neighborhood are White, recieve HIGHER FUNDING from the Government than schools where the students and neighborhoods are predominantly black or hispanic?

I would applaud you for ATTEMPTING to answer that . [/B]

I would like to see some numbers that justify your question to begin with.

Maybe the tax's collected in an area help to bring money to schools, call me crazy but local tax's are a factor as well.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, how do either ****** or spic imply poverty...maybe in your racist mind?

Also, white trash is not jsut "poor" white people, it's a certain image....

Lord Urizen is right. "White trash" refers to/implies poor, undereducated and lacking in hygiene.