Silver Surfer vs Villains

Originally posted by leonheartmm
that was a chance happening. dont talk like surfer hasnt had his low showings. fact is surfer IS a herald. nohing even close to that level can come close to bothering franklin at all. hyperstorm, who wasnt even as powerful as franklin wreaked havoc in the multiverse. u cant merely say that sum1 can take on sum1 else due to lack of speed if they have MUCH greater power. for instance eternity nor death ever move much at all, u think surfer can speed blitz them?! what about thanos?

Franklin is a kid............

POWERFUL ? YES ......... can be knocked out? yes he can

thats bullshit dismissive non logical childish blabber kgkg. against beings like phoenix, wanda and franklin speed means NOTHING. they can do ANYTHING.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thats bullshit dismissive non logical childish blabber kgkg. against beings like phoenix, wanda and franklin speed means NOTHING. they can do ANYTHING.

you can't understand simple things.

its called PIS. just like wolverine beating hulk and batman punching superman and superman fealing it.

all topgether SS loses

though ss can easily take down nafaria him being composed of ionic energy and we all no how good ss is at manipulating energy. mister sinister goes down before anybody else its just apoc and magneto that will cause trouble

wanda WAS knocked out but curently she has the CHAOS WAVE no1 can knock her out now, n i dont know the instant of franklin being knocked out by gladiater{needless to say it is pis}. franklin even in the BEGINNING was celestial level but now hes FAR surpassed even that, even galactus and cosmic cubes have trouble taking on a celestial heck KUBIK an molecule man along with KOSMOS were AFRAID of celestials u think a HERALD could have taken on franklin even at CELESTIAL level let alone the level he is now?!

Originally posted by Skeets
I don't see how they're gonna prep for someone like Surfer.It's not like Sinister's have before in the past.Nefaria's a non-factor just look at what Surfer's done to Wonderman.
No it's not Surfer can beat them all with one shot each.

Surfer can't beat them all with one shot. Magneto can hold his own against the ss, however he wouldn't be able to ko the surfer. But, with help from sinister, and Nefaria surfer would get pounded on. Plus, Apocalypse who can ko the surfer considering how easily he dealt with Ikaris. So the surfer is outmatched in fire power and in strength considering Apocalypse and Nefaria are physical powerhouses.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
what a DUMASS, hey fanboy magneto's shield hasnt even DENTED under direct assaults from THOR and his mystical mlijnor which is slightly greater in power than surfer's power cosmic. how do u think surfer can KILL magneto with a single shot? absolute crap

I suggest you calm yourself and stick to keeping the debate civil.

Anyway, Silver Surfer turns them all into furry bunnies.

SS takes out the planet they're standing in, speedblits whoever survived that assault, then creates a blackhole.

magnto is nearly at current surfer level perhaps even beyond it in his pure electro magnetic state

We dont even know what SS current level, they're is not enough showing to gauge it. Pure energy would just be a big disadvantage againts SS, control on all forms of energy cept against beings way above higher than him. Ie. Abstracts, Mystics, Skyfathers.

sinister is nearly as smart as thanos/reed/doom and with even a day's prep can take out celestials.

Would you let me know what comic series would that?

surfer owns omega?! WTF dude are u in the right state of mind?! omega's will replace the abstracts!

Where did you get this information? unless of course this is all an assumption.

magneto's shield hasnt even DENTED under direct assaults from THOR

Low showing of Thor. Shield are useless if you are able to phase through it, or absorbs its energy.

I say the team takes a healthy majority here. But meh, that's just my opinion. 😬

Originally posted by Rols
SS takes out the planet they're standing in, speedblits whoever survived that assault, then creates a blackhole.

magneto doesnt need a planet to stand on or survive. neither does sinister, nefaria or apocalypse

We dont even know what SS current level, they're is not enough showing to gauge it. Pure energy would just be a big disadvantage againts SS, control on all forms of energy cept against beings way above higher than him. Ie. Abstracts, Mystics, Skyfathers.

not enough showings?! u gotta be kiddin me dude surfer has more showings than almost ANY1 apart from spiderman. overall in the history of marvel from creation till now, spidey takes the first place in shpowings and fame followed by surfer

Would you let me know what comic series would that?
yup AOA, he creates NATE grey {most powerful mutant after franklin} cable{second only to nate and franklin} rachel summers{who later showed genetic control over phoenix} and alkso created a clone of jean herself. sinister is right up there with the smartest

Where did you get this information? unless of course this is all an assumption.
its not assumptions if u look at the latest omega theories in comics it is solidly said that humanity{omega mutants to be specific those who show humanity's true potential} will one day replace the abstracts and they will have to instead bow down to humans

Low showing of Thor. Shield are useless if you are able to phase through it, or absorbs its energy.
true but it DOES give a a measure of his power and he has been powered up greatly since then

not enough showings?! u gotta be kiddin me dude surfer has more showings than almost ANY1 apart from spiderman. overall in the history of marvel from creation till now, spidey takes the first place in shpowings and fame followed by surfer

SS currently received new upgrades from his recent mini series.. He fought a few Annihilation fleet and defeated them in mere seconds, he also fought Ravenous again which he could have easily defeat in there first encounter prior to the upgrade... So no we havent seen enough feat of this current SS.

magneto doesnt need a planet to stand on or survive. neither does sinister, nefaria or apocalypse

The blast was a setup for a speed blits and then the blackhole droppings 😄 .

yup AOA, he creates NATE grey {most powerful mutant after franklin} cable{second only to nate and franklin} rachel summers{who later showed genetic control over phoenix} and alkso created a clone of jean herself. sinister is right up there with the smartest

So your saying that Nate could defeat a Celestial??? Because that was what your saying with a day of prep he could defeat a Celestial...

its not assumptions if u look at the latest omega theories in comics it is solidly said that humanity{omega mutants to be specific those who show humanity's true potential} will one day replace the abstracts and they will have to instead bow down to humans

I collect X-men issue since 94 cept individual Char. release and ive never come across that Omega mutant replacing abstract theories.

true but it DOES give a a measure of his power and he has been powered up greatly since then

Yeah im not denying how strong Mags shield but I really think its uselless against energy manipulators at SS level. I know about Mags becoming energy after his body was destoryed by Plutonia and only his will kept him and Lorna's energy from being disperse.. And if you recall
Lorna died and Mags would soon follow but he was to stubborn to fall so he fought tell the end..Not the whole story but close enough..

surfer wins easily there is no way any of these guys could fend off more than one of surfers power cosmic blasts no way and hes also just to fast for any of the to see, and also magnetos powers arn't even close to being in the same leagues as the surfer and now herald and much more powerful current surfer

hey ur playing down magneto{not to mention the others} magneto can create black holes too and HAS in the recent past.

If Magneto's creating black holes... how has the Earth survived? Anyways, none of those guys are anywhere near the level of SS. He'll take them all out before they can blink if he wants to.

The team, destroy SS...

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
The team, destroy SS...

SS can K.O anyone on that list effortlessly.

Some options for SS. Stop time .... and turn them all into Gas
Speed blitz them..........
Destroy the planet ...... and kill survivors.

the only way the team can wins ....... is if Surfer doesn't use his powers wisely.........

Originally posted by leonheartmm
hey ur playing down magneto{not to mention the others} magneto can create black holes too and HAS in the recent past.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
If Magneto's creating black holes... how has the Earth survived? Anyways, none of those guys are anywhere near the level of SS. He'll take them all out before they can blink if he wants to.

I agree the Surfer is powerful, since his energy manipulation powers enabled him to reverse transform Hulk back to bruce banner. However, I doubt that would work on either Sinister or Apocalypse since they have considerable controll over their molecular structure. In addition, the surfer could either focus on his energy attacks or boosting his strength. Since the surfer can't both increase his strength to Hulk levels and the intensity of energy attacks this team of four would ko the surfer.

Originally posted by bigbran
whats a black hole to someone that can go 300x light speed, and surfer now has been shown to make a black hole w/o even trying.