Both Sinister and Apoc. would go down easy, They get blasted by the like of Havok and Cyke with effects but SS is by far, far higher level than the 2, they get disintegrated in a second, unless they can somehow survived or heal from being disentegrated.
Mags have not created any blackhole more like a miniatiore wormhole by manipulating EMF energy, still quite an awesome feat, but still normal human reflex and durability/ in energy form will Surfer has got a few diff. option, Ie. disperse, absorved, transmute, etc..etc..
Count Nefaria needs Ionic energy to sustain himself, drained by Surfer he would be useless.
I say how would this guy survived being blasted by a planetary blast, speedblits, transmutation, Blackhole droppings 😄 ?
Originally posted by Rols
Both Sinister and Apoc. would go down easy, They get blasted by the like of Havok and Cyke with effects but SS is by far, far higher level than the 2, they get disintegrated in a second, unless they can somehow survived or heal from being disentegrated.
Mags have not created any blackhole more like a miniatiore wormhole by manipulating EMF energy, still quite an awesome feat, but still normal human reflex and durability/ in energy form will Surfer has got a few diff. option, Ie. disperse, absorved, transmute, etc..etc..
Count Nefaria needs Ionic energy to sustain himself, drained by Surfer he would be useless.
I say how would this guy survived being blasted by a planetary blast, speedblits, transmutation, Blackhole droppings 😄 ?
Well, Sinister was never actually weak towards cyclops, that was just a ploy. As for Apocalypse, he was blasted away by Cyclops with an infant Cable and Jean Grey increasing his power. Did you see how large that optic blast was, it was way more powerful than cyclop's normal blast.
In addition, Sinister was almost seamingly destroyed but he came back as did Apocalypse after executioners's song.
Referring to the Silver Surfer, he can't make a blackhole effortlessly, and he is durable, however he still has a problem with thor. Plus if I remember correctly Thor lost to He someone both Apocalypse and Sinister made a fool out of.
Well, Sinister was never actually weak towards cyclops, that was just a ploy. As for Apocalypse, he was blasted away by Cyclops with an infant Cable and Jean Grey increasing his power. Did you see how large that optic blast was, it was way more powerful than cyclop's normal blast.
Im talkin about a blast that could destoy a whole planet, Nate grey killed sinister with psionic and physical assault (AOA), which Surfer also able to do, planetary blast w/telepathic assault. I think this would take care both Apoc, and Sinister.
Referring to the Silver Surfer, he can't make a blackhole effortlessly, and he is durable, however he still has a problem with thor. Plus if I remember correctly Thor lost to He someone both Apocalypse and Sinister made a fool out of
SS made a blackhole effortlessly, by discharging enough energy and it was quite a big one too and this is prior to his upgrade. And that Thor you were referring too is WMThor which took out the likes of SS, Dr. Strange, Warlock, Thanos, The Infinity Watch at desame time.
Originally posted by Rols
Im talkin about a blast that could destoy a whole planet, Nate grey killed sinister with psionic and physical assault (AOA), which Surfer also able to do, planetary blast w/telepathic assault. I think this would take care both Apoc, and Sinister.
Well, I remember when Nate Grey attacked sinister but, Sinister survived and came back later. In addition Surfers blast are powerful but your overrating them since if he were that powerful with planetary blast and telepathic assaults he wouldn't loose to Thor and Drax. Actually I remember surfer exerting himself and not even denting thanos. Also, AoA is ridiculous anyway since normal sinister would telepathically turn of Grey's powers. Apocalypse on the other hand could outfight Surfer physically, and defiantly would not succumb to Surfer mentally. Since Apocalypse has an intense mental block which keeps people out of his mind. Plus cosmic powered beings never bothered Apocalypse before since he dominated Ikaris, who is a cosmic powered Eternal.
SS made a blackhole effortlessly, by discharging enough energy and it was quite a big one too and this is prior to his upgrade. And that Thor you were referring too is WMThor which took out the likes of SS, Dr. Strange, Warlock, Thanos, The Infinity Watch at desame time.
Well, Adam Warlock and Dr Strange can 't provide much physical resistance against Thor since both Warlock and Strange don't even approach thing in strength. Plus Thor's powers are magical anyway so Strange in a direct fight would be no threat. SS, Thanos, and Drax would be the only resistance, but surfer can't match thor in strength either, and drax isn't durable enough to last against thor. So it was more like Thanos and Thor fighting. Besides all of the infinity watch except Thanos would loose to Ikaris anyway. So Warrior madness Thor or not He would still win.
thanos is well.. thanos. dont compare thanos to surfer.
what does adam and strange not being strong have to with anything?
surfer is more powerful than apoc, in every thing, cept maybe, maybe strength. but what does strength have to planet destroying blasts? apoc isnt taking tooo many off them.
sinister gets blown up and has to reform, which would take a while.
magneto is nothing to surfer.
Originally posted by babel10SS can affect every cell in his body.
Apocalypse doesn't have to take Surfer's attacks since he can have the attacks pass through him or maneuver around them since Apocalypse can stretch his body out.
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no one has counter the stop time thing..........
SS stops time........ then does everything else
Well, I remember when Nate Grey attacked sinister but, Sinister survived and came back later. In addition Surfers blast are powerful but your overrating them since if he were that powerful with planetary blast and telepathic assaults he wouldn't loose to Thor and Drax. Actually I remember surfer exerting himself and not even denting thanos. Also, AoA is ridiculous anyway since normal sinister would telepathically turn of Grey's powers. Apocalypse on the other hand could outfight Surfer physically, and defiantly would not succumb to Surfer mentally. Since Apocalypse has an intense mental block which keeps people out of his mind. Plus cosmic powered beings never bothered Apocalypse before since he dominated Ikaris, who is a cosmic powered Eternal.
Have you read X-man series Nate killed Sinister. SS never lose to Drax. Think about it Thanos and the rest of the guys mentioned fought WMThor, i think they were holding back but thats just me.This is the kind of power this version of Thor have lets not compare him against Apoc. cause Apoc. does not come this close in strength. We dont know the limit of SS physical prowess he does not fight that way but he is able to augment strength according to the PC at his disposal, like Apocylse. SS versatility in power is enough to take of take care of this guys. I know when SS is beaten and this guys does not have what it takes.
magneto broke through phoenix's sheld, crippled phoenix and his shield took blasts frmo phoenix, tell me surfer could do that.{if u say yes than u r a hopeless fanboy}
[{btw if u think surfer can even stand upto nate grey, ur retarted}/QUOTE][QUOTE]Apocalypse doesn't have to take Surfer's attacks since he can have the attacks pass through him or maneuver around them since Apocalypse can stretch his body out.
Yes SS can do that, and by the way Ur the retardid fanboy 🙄 .
And relax buddy, were just havin a conversation, dont need to get so melodramatic. Check SS respect thread you might learn a thing or to in there.
How would he see SS speedblits after the initial assault, non of these guys have lighspeed reflex. He also has the CA, time displacing powers.
I must say the team in overtkill. Magneto does have some high feats showing he could match the SS before his current upgrade. He did create a worm hole and a worm hole is two black holes meeting at one point in space and he did beat the Phoenix. That is a feat the Surfer never even came close to. Last of course he does have a shield the Surfer should not be able to break. With the other three the team should pull off a win.
Originally posted by SkeetsCable as strong as he is isn't an omega.
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There's a reason Surfer's in space and not on earth.I wonder why reed called him to take care of an [b]"OMEGA"...hmm
Again with the Franklin crap,please the kids all potential nothing more Surfer poops on him.
Cosmic being>>>Mutant simple.Eventually the Omegas should surpass him but that means nothing as we're talking about the present. [/B]
ss transmutes the air inside mags shield to acid, or gives him the legacy virus and accelerates it. or he creates a vacuum and pulls all the air out of his shield like storm did. or he just absorbs mags shield, like thor did. there are endless ways for ss to take out mags. including shrinking below the EM force threshhold and just passing through his shield like it wasn't there. 😉 oh, and stop listing feats where mag's was on kick . . . MAYBE then he was at herald level (but as heralds go ss IS the best), but that is hardly his normal state . . . recall -- mags controls ONE of the fundamental forces -- ss controls ALL of them + has the ability to operate at the quantum level, the level that underlies all the others.
SS>>mags in almost every way.
nefaria is never in this fight -- too easy to muddle with his ionic energy. ss could literally look at him and destroy him.
sinister's powers have been rather inconsistently displayed. at his peak, he seems quite powerful, but i doubt he could deal with being drawn into the ss's board . . . or withstand being blasted by a planet-destroying shot. i wonder how he'd enjoy having HIS genetic makeup completely rewritten?
apoc would be interesting, but again, he's got inconsistent showings. he appeared<loki and has been owned too many times by others that should be below him. and of course he's far far FAR too slow (as are all of them) to make it a real fight.
then of course there is nothing any of them could do if ss muddled with time or simply opened a black hole -- mags OPENED one, that does NOT mean he could survive being pulled into one . . .
now, all that said, with prep, they could do it. that's a lot of power AND brains even for ss to deal with. but they'd need a fair share of prep.
Originally posted by leonidas😱 This coming from LEO?
ss transmutes the air inside mags shield to acid, or gives him the legacy virus and accelerates it. or he creates a vacuum and pulls all the air out of his shield like storm did. or he just absorbs mags shield, like thor did. there are endless ways for ss to take out mags. including shrinking below the EM force threshhold and just passing through his shield like it wasn't there. 😉 oh, and stop listing feats where mag's was on kick . . . MAYBE then he was at herald level (but as heralds go ss IS the best), but that is hardly his normal state . . . recall -- mags controls ONE of the fundamental forces -- ss controls ALL of them + has the ability to operate at the quantum level, the level that underlies all the others.SS>>mags in almost every way.
nefaria is never in this fight -- too easy to muddle with his ionic energy. ss could literally look at him and destroy him.
sinister's powers have been rather inconsistently displayed. at his peak, he seems quite powerful, but i doubt he could deal with being drawn into the ss's board . . . or withstand being blasted by a planet-destroying shot. i wonder how he'd enjoy having HIS genetic makeup completely rewritten?
apoc would be interesting, but again, he's got inconsistent showings. he appeared<loki and has been owned too many times by others that should be below him. and of course he's far far FAR too slow (as are all of them) to make it a real fight.
then of course there is nothing any of them could do if ss muddled with time or simply opened a black hole -- mags OPENED one, that does NOT mean he could survive being pulled into one . . .
now, all that said, with prep, they could do it. that's a lot of power AND brains even for ss to deal with. but they'd need a fair share of prep.
Originally posted by Rols
Have you read X-man series Nate killed Sinister. SS never lose to Drax. Think about it Thanos and the rest of the guys mentioned fought WMThor, i think they were holding back but thats just me.This is the kind of power this version of Thor have lets not compare him against Apoc. cause Apoc. does not come this close in strength. We dont know the limit of SS physical prowess he does not fight that way but he is able to augment strength according to the PC at his disposal, like Apocylse. SS versatility in power is enough to take of take care of this guys. I know when SS is beaten and this guys does not have what it takes.
How would he see SS speedblits after the initial assault, non of these guys have lighspeed reflex. He also has the CA, time displacing powers.