cap vs spider-man

Originally posted by h1a8
So I guess Spiderman can beat fire-lord since it happened huh?

....Translation...

"I have no valid argument to stand on; so instead of trying to come up with logical and relevant counterpoints, I'll spam useless garbage and try to compare spiderman vs. fire-lord (a herald level, FLT, planet buster, not to mention the prime example on this forum of PIS) to spiderman vs. cap, the latter a more logical match-up in terms of consistent showings and abilities. By doing this I hope of turn people away form there valid points and also turn this thread into a "cap will be standing still to pete" spam with no scans or proof like the last one that was closed. I win!!!"

...I think that's what he wanted to say.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Yeah Cap laid out Hulk once, with his fists and Spiderman laid out Firelord, with his fists. Are either of those valid or PIS in your book.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Yeah Cap laid out Hulk once, with his fists and Spiderman laid out Firelord, with his fists. Are either of those valid or PIS in your book.

Its PIS for Cap to KO hulk with brute strength but not with skill. Cap has consistently been able to hurt class 100s and sometimes KO them. Cap has:

1. Koed a mindcontrolled Namor underwater. Namor has beaten Savage Hulk underwater.
2. Koed Thunderball a guy whos durability enables him to fight Thor.
3. Briefly stunned a more powerful version of the Hulk.
4. Hit Savage Hulk hard enough to let go of him.
5. Hes even been able to hurt Korvac (more powerful than Savage Hulk) with punches

Furthermore Firelord is potentially more dangerous than Hulk. For starters most street levelers can dodge Hulk for decent amount of time (however I do think that Hulk could possibly have FTL combat reflexes if he is fighting a more dangerous opponent) and if they are good enough use skill to KO him. I do think though this would be a low showing for the Hulk because most likely Cap would not be able to KO him just hurt him but Cap has shown that it is possible for him to KO Hulk.

Firelord is more dangerous than Hulk and its PIS for Cap or Spiderman to beat him. Firelord is vastly superior to Spiderman in everything and then some, at least with the Hulk he can be dodged for a certain amount of time, thats not the case with Firelord because he has faster than light reflexes.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
....Translation...

"I have no valid argument to stand on; so instead of trying to come up with logical and relevant counterpoints, I'll spam useless garbage and try to compare spiderman vs. fire-lord (a herald level, FLT, planet buster, not to mention the prime example on this forum of PIS) to spiderman vs. cap, the latter a more logical match-up in terms of consistent showings and abilities. By doing this I hope of turn people away form there valid points and also turn this thread into a "cap will be standing still to pete" spam with no scans or proof like the last one that was closed. I win!!!"

...I think that's what he wanted to say.

lmao

Cap vs robot clone of Spiderman. (The clone is evil and is not holding back)

Note: Spiderman said I'd be a fool to fight him on his own terms.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not trying to spin anything I read what you said about both Cap and Spidey and I quoted the relevant section. Whats relevant is that you were using Spidermans showing against KP to say that Spiderman would win the majority.

What does that mean? Spiderman wins the majority and he wins the majority because of what he did to KP.

You're wrong because:

So instead of excusing me of trying to spin things around why dont you just respond to the points? 🤨

You fail to understand that the stipulations from the other thread don't apply in this thread. So don't try trolling me. End of discussion.

Originally posted by Badabing
First, I was stating my opinion and not debating, second both my points were relevant and third you quoted me and it was slanted. I used examples for both Cap and Spidey.

You fail to understand that the stipulations from the other thread don't apply in this thread. So don't try trolling me. End of discussion.

Look I suspect the reason why you keep making excuses is basically your job as a mod keeps you too busy and sometimes you cant be assed to respond to posts. If thats the case then I understand.

One thing some people are forgetting about their 'Civil War' fight was that this was a Spidey who underwent mutated enhancements during 'The Other' storyline and was endowed with Iron Spidey armor. Both of these are gone since 'Brand New Day.' And even with these extra advantages, this is how Cap vs. that Spidey turned out:

"UNNNHH!"

"URRRK!"

Cap 6/10. Especially considering Spidey's current incarnation.

Note Cap does not use the shield to deflect Spiderman's punch. 😐 What you have is Spiderman throwing a punch in the first panel and Spiderman missing. The shield does not touch his arm.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Look I suspect the reason why you keep making excuses is basically your job as a mod keeps you too busy and sometimes you cant be assed to respond to posts. If thats the case then I understand.

Originally posted by Badabing
There's no excuses, just your misunderstanding. I CLOSED the thread and that's it. No debate, no confusion except on your part. Everybody else seemed to understand. Using part of my posts from a different thread which had different stipulations is not honest. I made points for both characters. Let me be very clear, if you continue with your attitude and I continue to get reports about your posts it will be a warning at the very least. I've explained myself and that's it. Now, your best bet is to accept my explanation and move on. Thanks.

Im aware that you refered to both characters, but you basically said that Spidermans wins the majority and used the example of Spiderman beating KP. I gave my reasons for why this was wrong and asked you to respond. Also the point about this thread having diferent stipulation is just an excuse because obvoulsy this thread involves H2H.

I'll accept your explantion because your a mod and thats it. I can understand why you're getting pissed off you were trying to reconcile the differences but your are basically taking what im saying out of context, and thats not fair either. 😬

Spiderman is much faster, far stronger than Cap wil ever be, he has that nifty spider scense that lets him avoid most hits, his durability is very high up there, and he has a slight healing ability . and lets not forget Spiderman is one of the most experenced superheros in the Marvel universe. Captain America will not be beating on Spiderman like he was a newbie or a wanna be hero.

Spiderman 9 1/2 outa 10

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im aware that you refered to both characters, but you basically said that Spidermans wins the majority and used the example of Spiderman beating KP. I gave my reasons for why this was wrong and asked you to respond. Also the point about this thread having diferent stipulation is just an excuse because obvoulsy this thread involves H2H.

I'll accept your explantion because your a mod and thats it. I can understand why you're getting pissed off you were trying to reconcile the differences but your are basically taking what im saying out of context, and thats not fair either. 😬

Originally posted by complexbrother
Spiderman is much faster, far stronger than Cap wil ever be, he has that nifty spider scense that lets him avoid most hits, his durability is very high up there, and he has a slight healing ability . and lets not forget Spiderman is one of the most experenced superheros in the Marvel universe. Captain America will not be beating on Spiderman like he was a newbie or a wanna be hero.

Spiderman 9 1/2 outa 10

"UNNNHH!"

"URRRK!"

Cap 6/10.

Originally posted by Badabing
You once again fail to understand and drop it. I'm not angry and I've asked you to drop it twice. This is the final time. The last thread specifically said no weapons. An "excuse" as you call it is not knowing the difference between me closing a thread with a comment and me debating. The last thread said "Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only, Weapons and webs are not permitted. Fight takes place in NYC, Who wins?" This thread has no such stipulations. I'll be very clear. Consider yourself warned. Thank you.

Im dropping it but I don't have to like your explanation.

Edit! Edit! Dammit edit! LOL

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Edit! Edit! Dammit edit! LOL

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Cap vs robot clone of Spiderman. (The clone is evil and is not holding back)

Note: Spiderman said [B]I'd be a fool to fight him on his own terms. [/B]

Well a couple things.

This is old.

Spiderman robot eventually won.

Robots are gay.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well a couple things.

This is old.

1. Its canon, so thats irrelevant.
2. The fact that Spiderman has had trouble with top tier martial artists many years after this issue implies that the robot was correct.

Originally posted by Mindset

Spiderman robot eventually won.

The robot won via webbing my point is that Spiderman cannot take Cap H2H.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
1. Its canon, so thats irrelevant.
2. The fact that Spiderman has had trouble with top tier martial artists many years after this issue implies that the robot was correct.

The robot won via webbing my point is that Spiderman cannot take Cap H2H.

Yes it is canon, that doesn't change the fact that Spiderman got better and showed more strength later in his series.

The fact that Spiderman was able to fight well against IF shows his skill improved.

Is webbing not allowed in this thread?

Originally posted by Mindset
Well a couple things.

This is old.

Spiderman robot eventually won.

Robots are gay.