cap vs spider-man

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is canon, that doesn't change the fact that Spiderman got better and showed more strength later in his series.

....and still had trouble fighting top tier martial artists, so nothing had changed.

Originally posted by Mindset

The fact that Spiderman was able to fight well against IF shows his skill improved.

Not really. Spiderman was shitting his pants and IF was depowered, if he was fully powered he would have kicked his ass.

Originally posted by Mindset

Is webbing not allowed in this thread?

Webbing is allowed in this thread but I am trying to discuss H2H because the other thread is closed. I have no problem with Spiderman beating Cap via webbing, it still would not be easy though.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
....and still had trouble fighting top tier martial artists, so nothing had changed.

Not really. Spiderman was shitting his pants and IF was depowered, if he was fully powered he would have kicked his ass.

Webbing is allowed in this thread but I am trying to discuss H2H because the other thread is closed. I have no problem with Spiderman beating Cap via webbing, it still would not be easy though.

Well Spiderman did well against IF, Deadpool, Daredevil, Kingpin, and Puma; so while I agree Cap is the better hth fighter it's not like Spiderman will be helpless.

And Spiderman was shitting his pants based on what, nothing?

Oh and is this IF depowered? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4334/feat39fight10rs7.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Well Spiderman did well against IF, Deadpool, Daredevil, Kingpin, and Puma; so while I agree Cap is the better hth fighter it's not like Spiderman will be helpless.

Ok but in some of those fights hes had to use webbing to equalize things. Remember though the robot and Spiderman said they could not take Cap in H2H, so eventhough he maybe able to beat other MAs he most likely will lose against Cap.

Originally posted by Mindset

Oh and is this IF depowered? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4334/feat39fight10rs7.jpg

Well lets put it this way IF said that his chi was messed up.

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsironfist2h4sn.jpg

Depowered was not the correct word to use but he was not at his best.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok but in some of those fights hes had to use webbing to equalize things. Remember though the robot and Spiderman said they could not take Cap in H2H, so eventhough he maybe able to beat other MAs he most likely will lose against Cap.

Well lets put it this way IF said that his chi was messed up.

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsironfist2h4sn.jpg

Depowered was not the correct word to use but he was not at his best.

So I'll just say like I've said before, Cap is the better martial artist, but Spiderman can win and with webbing he will.

Also I believe he hit Spiderman with more chi than he wanted, and his chi being erratic for his IF would not affect his fighting.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well I wont argue a hth fight only here, since that thread was closed for some reason, which I don't know.

Originally posted by Badabing
This thread is closed because my requests for civility have been ignored. I may reopen later.

uhuh

Originally posted by Mindset

So I'll just say like I've said before, Cap is the better martial artist, but Spiderman can win and with webbing he will.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Mindset

Also I believe he hit Spiderman with more chi than he wanted, and his chi being erratic for his IF would not affect his fighting.

It would because he does not just use the chi to punch harder but to enhance his physical abilities in general.

Originally posted by Badabing
uhuh

SHUT UP BADA!

Originally posted by Mindset
SHUT UP BADA!

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Please stop comparing Firelord vs Spiderman to Cap vs Spiderman.

My friend, to God a sin is a sin.
Whether one commits a huge lie or small one, it's all the same to God (Who is the judge).

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Twice?

Plus, Cap laid out Molecule Man and Hulk... etc before. 😬

Molecule Man is nothing (as far as durability).
Firelord>>>>>>>>Hulk.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
....Translation...

"I have no valid argument to stand on; so instead of trying to come up with logical and relevant counterpoints, I'll spam useless garbage and try to compare spiderman vs. fire-lord (a herald level, FLT, planet buster, not to mention the prime example on this forum of PIS) to spiderman vs. cap, the latter a more logical match-up in terms of consistent showings and abilities. By doing this I hope of turn people away form there valid points and also turn this thread into a "cap will be standing still to pete" spam with no scans or proof like the last one that was closed. I win!!!"

...I think that's what he wanted to say.

Did you see scans of Spidey reacting to bullets like they were in slow motion? If you believe Spidey can do this then how isn't he is not able to see CA in almost still motion when CA is much slower than a flying bullet?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah. Comics disagree with you. Spiderman disagrees with you. I'm pretty sure Cap would too. I'm very sure that I disagree with you.

"UNNNHH!"

"URRRK!"

Cap 6/10.

And common sense disagrees with you.
What is Cap going to do if he's webbed up?
And Spidey can shoot a very very wide web.
Spidey wins.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
....Translation...

"I have no valid argument to stand on; so instead of trying to come up with logical and relevant counterpoints, I'll spam useless garbage and try to compare spiderman vs. fire-lord (a herald level, FLT, planet buster, not to mention the prime example on this forum of PIS) to spiderman vs. cap, the latter a more logical match-up in terms of consistent showings and abilities. By doing this I hope of turn people away form there valid points and also turn this thread into a "cap will be standing still to pete" spam with no scans or proof like the last one that was closed. I win!!!"

...I think that's what he wanted to say.

Quoted for truth.

Originally posted by h1a8
And common sense disagrees with you.
What is Cap going to do if he's webbed up?
And Spidey can shoot a very very wide web.
Spidey wins.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap's dodged his webstreams before. As for your theory, Cap could simply throw his shield at a flying webnet and make it collapse back onto Spidey. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

It doesn't take a genius to know that Spidey would block it with his web domes.

The times I see him spinning his webnet, he uses both his hands. How would he spin the webnet and spin the webdome to protect himself at the same time? And I would think that Spidey would try to run away from the backfired webnet rather than spin a webdome around himself. Because basically Spidey would then be trapped inside a webnet reinforced webdome and Cap would technically win. I could see that in a comic honestly.

Spidey: "Alright, time to end this. Here's a webnet for ya, Cap! Dodge this!" THWIP!
*Cap throws his shield to collapse it back towards Spidey*
Spidey: "Cripes! He's trying to entangle me with my own webs! Think, Parker, think! Wait! Webdome!" THWIP!
Cap: "Ahem. How do you plan on getting out of your own webdome now?"
Spidey: "..... I'm tearing up my Cap fanclub membership card once my webbing dissolves in 24 hours."
Cap: "Meh."
*Cap walks away*
Spidey: "Cap just said 'meh' to me. I have hit an all-time low. This is even worse than having clones."

😂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[b]Spidey: "Alright, time to end this. Here's a webnet for ya, Cap! Dodge this!" THWIP!
*Cap throws his shield to collapse it back towards Spidey*
Spidey: "Cripes! He's trying to entangle me with my own webs! Think, Parker, think! Wait! Webdome!" THWIP!
Cap: "Ahem. How do you plan on getting out of your own webdome now?"
Spidey: "..... I'm tearing up my Cap fanclub membership card once my webbing dissolves in 24 hours."
Cap: "Meh."
*Cap walks away*
Spidey: "Cap just said 'meh' to me. I have hit an all-time low. This is even worse than having clones."

😂 [/B]

barker

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The times I see him spinning his webnet, he uses both his hands. How would he spin the webnet and spin the webdome to protect himself at the same time? And I would think that Spidey would try to run away from the backfired webnet rather than spin a webdome around himself. Because basically Spidey would then be trapped inside a webnet reinforced webdome and Cap would technically win. I could see that in a comic honestly.

[b]Spidey: "Alright, time to end this. Here's a webnet for ya, Cap! Dodge this!" THWIP!
*Cap throws his shield to collapse it back towards Spidey*
Spidey: "Cripes! He's trying to entangle me with my own webs! Think, Parker, think! Wait! Webdome!" THWIP!
Cap: "Ahem. How do you plan on getting out of your own webdome now?"
Spidey: "..... I'm tearing up my Cap fanclub membership card once my webbing dissolves in 24 hours."
Cap: "Meh."
*Cap walks away*
Spidey: "Cap just said 'meh' to me. I have hit an all-time low. This is even worse than having clones."

😂 [/B]

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap's dodged his webstreams before. As for your theory, Cap could simply throw his shield at a flying webnet and make it collapse back onto Spidey. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Spidey can spam webbing over a wide area in a short amount of time, he doesn't just have to shoot a couple streams.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spidey can spam webbing over a wide area in a short amount of time, he doesn't just have to shoot a couple streams.

Besides, even if Cap didn't want to get all fancy-schmancy by turning Spidey's own tactics onto himself, Cap could probably dodge it. If Black Panther can dodge a webnet, I should think Cap could as well:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6903/webbingshredvf2.jpg