Cap still goes down hard. And I might have been interpretting things different but I thought Wolverine got the better of Cap in Origins. Wolverine didn't want to fight Cap, Cap was glad to finally get a chance to put Logan down. However at the end Cap had a femoral clot and for those of you that don't know its a pretty major artery, just nicking it can cause you to bled to death in minutes. Cap was already basically downed by that plus Wolverine was over him with his sword when he got blasted. Not what I'd call a Cap win. I'm not saying who'll win between the two cause its usually even but it was pretty apparent who won that round
Originally posted by marvelprince
Wolverine didn't want to fight Cap, Cap was glad to finally get a chance to put Logan down. However at the end Cap had a femoral clot and for those of you that don't know its a pretty major artery, just nicking it can cause you to bled to death in minutes.
Do you really think that Wolverine shoulf be doing that to cap or should it be the other way round. Wolverine used to be hack and slash and then he became a martial arts expert....and then he became a secret agent.....then he became a secret agent who was around in World War 2 who helped cap out....and then he became 200 years old......and now hes regnerating from his skeleton...what next?
Wolverine cant even touch spidey and then all of sudden hes outsmarting cap and fighting martial artists like Stick to a stand still....what a load of crap. Cap who lead both the Avengers and the Xmen in Sceret Wars, I also dont remember Cap and Wolverine talking about any missions they did togther then and Spiderman punked Wolverine. Cap has been the leaders of the Avengers since god knows when and also whenever heroes get togther and hes there he usually the leader.
At the end of the day if Wolverine cuts caps leg he cut his leg Wolverine can beat Cap but he should not be beating him like that. Cap has always been a martial arts expert and he has always been around since WWII and he has always been a strategist. Basically the writers are taking the piss with Wolverine they have decided to milk this secret agent aspect of him and create aspects of Wolverine which were previously not there. If the writers want to upgrade a characters thats up to them but it stinks to high heaven, all of a sudden now he is regnerating from his skeleton to. What next? Wolverine is actually the first mutant ever created and actually fathered the mutant race?
A good fight between Wolverine and Cap should be a long drawn out battle with Wolverine finally gettign him when Cap cant figure a way of downing him, not with Wolverine out smarting him.....what a load of crap.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Do you really think that Wolverine shoulf be doing that to cap or should it be the other way round. Wolverine used to be hack and slash and then he became a martial arts expert....and then he became a secret agent.....then he became a secret agent who was around in World War 2 who helped cap out....and then he became 200 years old......and now hes regnerating from his skeleton...what next?
Only God knows
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine cant even touch spidey and then all of sudden hes outsmarting cap and fighting martial artists like Stick to a stand still....what a load of crap. Cap who lead both the Avengers and the Xmen in Sceret Wars, I also dont remember Cap and Wolverine talking about any missions they did togther then and Spiderman punked Wolverine. Cap has been the leaders of the Avengers since god knows when and also whenever heroes get togther and hes there he usually the leader.
Well this is what I mean when I talk about Spider-Man vs Cap. In the Wolverine fight Spider-Man wasn't holding back. He couldn't afford to if he wanted to live, though Spider-Man doesn't have to be moving at his max speed to aviod Wolverine. Moving that fast Wolverine was not able to touch Spider-Man and Wolverine and Logan is practically on par speed-wise.
I have a mini with Cap and Logan and I believe they at least mention missions they've done together. And Logan was part of Nick Fury's Secret War team w/ Cap.
Originally posted by Alfheim
At the end of the day if Wolverine cuts caps leg he cut his leg Wolverine can beat Cap but he should not be beating him like that. Cap has always been a martial arts expert and he has always been around since WWII and he has always been a strategist. Basically the writers are taking the piss with Wolverine they have decided to milk this secret agent aspect of him and create aspects of Wolverine which were previously not there. If the writers want to upgrade a characters thats up to them but it stinks to high heaven, all of a sudden now he is regnerating from his skeleton to. What next? Wolverine is actually the first mutant ever created and actually fathered the mutant race?
I agree. I had no problem with Logan beating Cap but cutting him, but it was too quick. And reading Logan's thoughts you are under the impression that he wasn't even into it while Cap comes across as acting irrational. The fight was too short and the characters, or at least Cap, didn't read true to me
Originally posted by Alfheim
A good fight between Wolverine and Cap should be a long drawn out battle with Wolverine finally gettign him when Cap cant figure a way of downing him, not with Wolverine out smarting him.....what a load of crap.
I think the fight should be drawn put but I don't see the big deal with Wolverine outsmarting Cap. Logan, with all his training and implants is pretty smart. He's lead incarnatios of the X-Men and Alpha Flight so he knows a thing or too about tactics and has had black ops training longer than Cap has been alive (not counting the time he was frozen of course).
Originally posted by marvelprinceI have a mini with Cap and Logan and I believe they at least mention missions they've done together.
Yeaaaah but what im saying is this...It was not like that before....they have decided to create this as part of his history. If they do that there is nothing I can do but it annoys me because they are doing it so much!
Originally posted by marvelprince
And Logan was part of Nick Fury's Secret War team w/ Cap.
Im talking about Secret Wars 1. What im saying is this.... both Cap and Wolverine converse but there is no mention of them fighting in WWII. The reason being is that it was not part of his history, but now they have just decided to milk this aspect. Im sorry it irritates me...what so now he has longevity as one of his powers....must be the healing factor.
Originally posted by marvelprince
The fight was too short and the characters, or at least Cap, didn't read true to me
Yes.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I think the fight should be drawn put but I don't see the big deal with Wolverine outsmarting Cap. Logan, with all his training and implants is pretty smart.
OK but it is more likely that Cap should outsmart Wolverine but yes Wolverine could do it.
Originally posted by marvelprince
He's lead incarnatios of the X-Men and Alpha Flight so he knows a thing or too about tactics
*mumble*
Yeah...ok
Originally posted by marvelprince
and has had black ops training longer than Cap has been alive (not counting the time he was frozen of course).
Because of his longevity? 🙄
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeaaaah but what im saying is this...It was not like that before....they have decided to create this as part of his history. If they do that there is nothing I can do but it annoys me because they are doing it so much!
Well that was beauty of having him not know much about his past. They could make it up as they go along.
Originally posted by Alfheim
OK but it is more likely that Cap should outsmart Wolverine but yes Wolverine could do it.
Ok
Which is pure crap, at least here.
Accept Cap can take loads of damage.
Beat down from Namor. Notice that Cap fell into the ocean from a crash landing plane. Equivalent of crashing into concrete from that altitude.
Cap has tons of feats to taking explosions, crashes and high falls.
with enough punches cap would be sleeping like this
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1894/bpcap25tb.jpg
first of all wolverine did took down captain america 3 times now.... and he is much greater fighter then spider man ... in new avengers wolverine cuts spider-man like a dog... and spider man b*tches about it like a girl ... another fight wolverine had the upper hand over spider-man plus he can heal so i say he can take them
Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all wolverine did took down captain america 3 times now.... and he is much greater fighter then spider man ... in new avengers wolverine cuts spider-man like a dog... and spider man b*tches about it like a girl ... another fight wolverine had the upper hand over spider-man plus he can heal so i say he can take them
And you've done it again! This is "cap vs spider-man". Wolverine is nowhere to be seen here.
Maybe you'll be able to stop throwing his name around when you stop having wet dreams about him.
