Who Is The Most Powerful Cosmic

Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree.

Erasing Galactus from the Multi-verse while setting balance to the Multi-versal misalignment that would take place is beyond even LT evidently.

And they were going to do it simultaneously.

Now, could he erase Galactus if he didn't care about the repercussions...I don't see why not.

My personal opinion is this is PIS.

hey mr master, do u know anything of this "god-like" wolverine? where did he get his powers etc.? ive heard his powers rivel that of most of the cosmics........

Originally posted by leonidas
if they are from different realities and are being used to manipulate 616 continuity, then . . . it should follow they are multiversal. how do you explain away the fact that cubes from different realities could manipulate reality in 616?

Their power is derived from different realities but what relevance does that have? Many characters such as Quasar (quantum bands) Sue and Hyperstorm (Hyperspace) have powers that derive from alternate dimensions and can apply their powers in 616 or any other reality they find themselves in. It has no relevance. Explain why you think it does.

earlier you said:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Said cubes power couldnt be used to manipulate Earths S' reality and the other one its power is being applied to therefore it is still universal. Merely being able to apply your power in a different reality doesnt equate to multiversal.

"said cubes couldn't be used to manipulate earth-s' reality" because (presumeably?) the cubes came from a different reality, right?

the cubes that were used to affect 616 were FROM a different reality, no?

Originally posted by leonidas
earlier you said:

"said cubes couldn't be used to manipulate earth-s' reality" because (presumeably?) the cubes came from a different reality, right?

the cubes that were used to affect 616 were FROM a different reality, no?

I was saying the cube couldnt simultaneously exorcise control of earth s at a universal level and employ its power in another reality as well. Why? Because its max is universal scale manipulation. I wasnt referring to the cubes place of origin.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I was saying the cube couldnt simultaneously exorcise control of earth s at a universal level and employ its power in another reality as well. Why? Because its max is universal scale manipulation. I wasnt referring to the cubes place of origin.

but you don't think that it's ability to universally control another reality makes it a multiversal power? by your definition, you need simultaneity of applied power across seperate universes to be truly multiversal? interesting.

answer me this: did the IG do something in IW that was different from what the cubes did? and if the IG was declared multiversal by . . . the powers that be, then doesn't it follow the cubes must be multiversal as well?

Originally posted by leonidas
but you don't think that it's ability to universally control another reality makes it a multiversal power? by your definition, you need simultaneity of applied power across seperate universes to be truly multiversal? interesting.

Go over to the Lucifer thread down below to see my definition of what multiversal power is. The one youre referring to is Mr Masters'.

Originally posted by leonidas
answer me this: did the IG do something in IW that was different from what the cubes did? and if the IG was declared multiversal by . . . the powers that be, then doesn't it follow the cubes must be multiversal as well?

Where was the IG declared multiversal? 😕

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Originally posted by leonidas
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Cool. I take it that matters settled then. 😂

I cant be bothered to argue the same issues in multiple threads, so im going to stick to the Lucifer one for now, get this whole mess sorted as i will and then i'll just post links in any other relevant thread that pops up subsequently 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
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Originally posted by galan7777777
what lucifer link?

Who said anything about a link? 😕

I said Lucifer thread down below. Its on the first page of the forum. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Who said anything about a link? 😕

I said Lucifer thread down below. Its on the first page of the forum. 🙂

but what amazing feats has lucifer done in comics?

Originally posted by galan7777777
but what amazing feats has lucifer done in comics?

Thats not the reason i directed Leonidas to that thread. We're not talking about Lucifer. Follow our exchange in this thread and then you'll see.

Originally posted by galan7777777
but what amazing feats has lucifer done in comics?

She looks pretty dead in this pic.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So how is that any different to what i just said?

The difference is that you didn't INCLUDE the FACT that when Beyonder said this:

It was AFTER he had given Rachel ENOUGH Power that even She would be able to kill him.

So I'm not surprised that at the very least..the Mkraan Crystal(a Universal Destroyer at the time)would be able to affect him...even if it's just releasing the his energy which would intern create a Universe.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A statement thats contradicted on panel and therefore cannot be treated as fact. Nothing on panel to show us its anything but hyperbole.

Your opinion..and your opinion alone.

If you wanna swallow that...I could care less...everyone else sees it, the way Marvel saw it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope.Cosmic cubes have the potential to allow a wielder to manipulate reality on a universal scale, that does NOT equate to making one supreme.

Cosmic Containment Units and sentient Cosmic Cubes are two seperate stories.

Cosmic Containment Units impose LIMITATIONS on themselves...and could possibly rival the IG.

Interesting..

How the heck did they CREATE a Universe then?

CREATING a Universe is beyond reality manipulation on a universal scale.

"reality manipulation on a universal scale"...would be warping a universe...Cosmic Containment Units actually created a Universe...and the issue suggested they created other Universes.

Magus might of created Universes...instead of just One Universe with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As stated, c cubes as standard have planetary level reality warping ability,

Actually Kubik can warp a Universe.

This is a battle between POST-Retcon Beyonder and Kubik.

Yes...this is the famous issue that RETCONNED Beyonder.

During this confrontation the Universe is POST-Retcon Beyonder.

Well what do you know...a "Planetary Level Reality Warper"...is turning a UNIVERSE into a sphere the size of his hand.

Don't tell me...though this was the RETCON...there was another RETCON. 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
however a single cube at full potential can manipulate reality on a universal scale,

So now Kubik is a Cube at FULL potential? 😆

A single Cube can potentially rival the Infinity Gauntlet.
"The UNITS are ALL-POWERFUL, but simply REFUSE to break certain SELF-IMPOSED taboos"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Mr M said a cube can make you supreme and i corrected him. Thats all.

You wish you could ever correct me in anything.

You posted your opinion with NO evidence.

I posted mine WITH On Panel Proof.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for multiversal in scope, well applying your power in another reality other than your own doesnt equate to a multiversal power.

Actually Magus was controlling TWO Universes from a Universe seperated from both.

That's Multi-versal now...and forever.

Originally posted by galan7777777
hey mr master, do u know anything of this "god-like" wolverine? where did he get his powers etc.? ive heard his powers rivel that of most of the cosmics........

That's taken as a joke.

Act as though you never heared that.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Their power is derived from different realities but what relevance does that have?

Actually their power derives from the Beyonders.

Those Units just happen to be within those seperate realities.