proof BluRay is winning over hd dvd!
look how many corps are backin the bluray format
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluray#Corporate_support
with spiderman 3 comin to bluray first it will smash the hddvd sales plus starwars will come to bluray because of twentycenture fox.
better get a PS3 early becuase is goin to be cheaper and better than hd dvd. 💃 💃
My thinkng is that neither of the formats will win...
It's just too little, too soon. The majority of consumers don't even care about High-Def... something like 90% of people who live where HD is available still watch SD. They don't care, they're not ready for it... And by the time comsumers are ready, the japanese holographic discs will be out which can hold upwards of 1 TB of data.
They're both gonna flop.
Oy. I didn't want to get into a stupid BR vs HD-DVD debate on these forums, given I'm already going so on two others, but I'll lay it out fo you.
Blu-ray blows goats. Period. Not only did they ship their initial players out to early, resulting in players across the US having faulty processors, the damn thing is $1,000.. Yes, $1,000 for a "higher that high definition" player who's movies codec is MPEG-2, the standard for SD-DVD, not HD-DVD. Not only that, but software providers have actually delayed titles for BR, based on the market and how well HD-DVD is doing.
Blu-ray is promoting potential. Potential that HD-DVD is already offering. Sony has been shooting themselves in the foot with their rushed BR product. Not only that, but the BR players have been quoted as being too expensive to build as it is, in addition to SONY's fauly cells and the shortage of blue diodes for the players. They said they can't even fix the big in the current players until SEPTEMBER, while the Toshiba HD-DVD players have already offered customers 4 firmware upgrades, for free, eliminating all bugs, as well as offering new features for their players.
Anycrap, the PS3 vs 360 debate with HD shouldn't even be one. The PS3 with BR player is $600. The 360's are getting a price drop to $299(base) and $399(premium) before the PS3 launch, and the HD-DVD drive will be anywhere from $100-$200 dollars, making it cheaper than the PS3 as it stands.
Everything is going HD-DVD's way, if you ask me. All the doubters need to do a little more reading into the formats, honestly. One is going to come out on top. The technology is here, now, and selling.
The 360's are getting a price drop to $299(base) and $399(premium) before the PS3 launch
That's how much 360's are now. A price drop probably won't happen before the PS3 launch, no need, really. It could happen, but it's all rumors at this point.
Also, I think that HD-DVD has a name advantage that a lot of people don't realize. Joe Nobody, who don't follow tech wars and such, no what DVD is, they probably know what HD is, so they know what HD-DVD is. They'd know what they're getting. A lot of these people may not even know what a Blu-Ray is. The DVD name is a big strength for HD-DVD.
Add that to the list of things in favor of HD-DVD, and the format war is not as cut and dry as Sony would like to have you think.
Originally posted by BackFire
Also, I think that HD-DVD has a name advantage that a lot of people don't realize. Joe Nobody, who don't follow tech wars and such, no what DVD is, they probably know what HD is, so they know what HD-DVD is. They'd know what they're getting. A lot of these people may not even know what a Blu-Ray is. The DVD name is a big strength for HD-DVD.
Originally posted by C-Dic
Since when? 😕I work next door to GameCrazy and the core is $399, and the Premium is $499.
Then they're ripping people off. Unless you live in Canada?
Suggested retail price is 399 for premium, 299 for core.
Originally posted by C-DicAnycrap, the PS3 vs 360 debate with HD shouldn't even be one. The PS3 with BR player is $600. The 360's are getting a price drop to $299(base) and $399(premium) before the PS3 launch, and the HD-DVD drive will be anywhere from $100-$200 dollars, making it cheaper than the PS3 as it stands.
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then you dont know what you talkin about. because bluray has much more PC data storage than a hd dvd. Ps3 is a bargain at $600. plus is a more powerful machine than the 360. hddvd is nothing but overrated. that is why studieos are not suporting them. just remenber this a year from now when everythin comes in bluray.
Preysin, note that studios are promoting only Blu-Ray ONLY if they have been marked as Blu-Ray exclusive. The fast majority of studios are doing the economically smart thing and giving support for both, so they can see which does better on the consumer front and then choose which one to actually support from there.
Originally posted by preysin
then you dont know what you talkin about. because bluray has much more PC data storage than a hd dvd. Ps3 is a bargain at $600. plus is a more powerful machine than the 360. hddvd is nothing but overrated. that is why studieos are not suporting them. just remenber this a year from now when everythin comes in bluray.
I know exactly what I am talking about. Extra storage means JACK SHIT for DVD movies. Blu-ray is only using 25 GB discs, and HD-DVD 30 GB discs for content. Not only has HD-DVD been able to squeeze an VC-1 codec, DD 5.1 TruHD and DTS-HD soundtracks, and extra features, Blu-ray is using a MPEG-4 processor, providing poor PQ , no extras, and can't even capitalize on their 1080p abilities because the 1st gen SAMSUNG players all have BUGS that make the picture look like shit, and they can't send out an update for another 2 months. What's the point in debuting a 50 GB disc when you have nothing to put on it?
PS3 a BARGAIN?? How so, when the 360, even with the HD add on will be $100 LESS? They're have already been NUMEROUS issues with the PS3 as it is, as I've already mentioned. It's costing Sony too much to make them as it is, thus having to charge consumers more, which is not a great strategy, IMO.
As far as studio suport goes, Warner Brothers just cancelled their slate of new titles indefinately, which suggests they may go with both formats, or soley with HD. Not only that, but as of today, there are 34 movies available on HD-DVD, as opposed to BR's 14.
In the end, nobodies going to pay $1,000 for a piece of shit DVD player that has bugs, can't replicate or surpass the quality of HD-DVD, provide decent titles, or be AFFORDABLE.
On the off chance that there will be a "hybrid" player, which won't happen, even if there are TALKS of it happening, Blu-ray may as well call it a day, and dump their shit in the Atlantic along with the unsold UMD's, MiniDiscs, and mp3 Walkmans.
I totally forgot to even address this "fact";
better get a PS3 early becuase is goin to be cheaper and better than hd dvd.
The HD-A1 is $500. The PS3 is $600. You do the math.
Originally posted by C-Dic
Well, expect it to drop between $50 and $100 each level by PS3 launch.
Possibly, Microsoft has denied that there will be a price drop this year, though. Like I said, all baseless rumors at this point.
Really, the system is already 200 less than a PS3, a pricedrop wouldn't even be necessary.