Borbarad
Advocatus Diaboli
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Given that all it was was a 'simple matter to release the enrgies?' sounds like it required SUCH great power. The explosion from the obelisk caused the avalance.
Read what you've typed and think about it. You're sure that causing an explosion doesn't require much energy ? Is this why people who want to create some "controlled" avalanche (e.g. to protect ski locations) usual use explosives instead of throwing a stone to the right place ?
And Vodo beat Kun, so it's one for one. Last I checked, it was a practice match, too. Kun was still a padawan and hadn't even opened a manual of anything resembling the Sith and was a mere adept with the dark side thus far.
Last time I checked Kun had enough physical power to push Sylvar down on her knees with one arm. Still Nadd managed to disarm him. And force TK / protection against it is one of the first lessons learned according to Mace in Shatterpoint. So what does this have to do with Kun's dark side knowledge ?
Most likely not the case? Nadd attacked her, she left herself open, she died. There is never a fight to speak of mentioned whatsoever.
Oh please. I'm totally sure Matta being confronted with an enraged Nadd simply left herself open for his first swing instead of giving him some time to release at least some of his anger before pulling such a "test" off. That would be the pinacle of stupidity.
Amanoa said her ancestors had tried to destroy the beast riders for years, to my recollection. They'd only been engaged in civil war for centuries and were the major thorn in the side to Nadd's rule.
You're talking about the same people that worshipped Nadd like a god because of his force powers and Sith Magic skills ? The fact that some of Amanoa's ancestors wanted to get rid of the Beast Riders doesn't mean that Nadd did want to. Actually it would even fit the usual Sith philosophy to keep the people of Iziz at war with the Beast Riders (to prevent that they will get weak).
Considering it said he was unable to destroy them, sounds like he tried. Oh, and name one of those battles Sidious was personally involved in, considering his profile in the NGTC said he was practically completely uninterested in the war and content to let his subordinates handle things while he increased his power and trained his Dark Jedi.
Oh my. Have a look at the battles Vader (remember 80 % of Sidious in terms of power according to Lucas) was involved in. Yavin 4 anybody ? Hoth anybody ? Battle of Endor anybody ?
Again: We know exactly what Sidious achieved later in life. And yeah, he knew some Sith alchemy apparently, so did the random darksider in the X-wing series. Whatever Sadow refused to teach him was apparently important enough to kill him over.
Oh my...it was ? Given that Nadd killed people because of such "important things" like not being immediatly given Jedi Knight status he might actually have killed Sadow because he just refused to teach him some unimportant stuff - just because of the fact that Sadow refused to teach him something (no matter how important it was).
Obviously it was not important enough for Nadd to waste time and search for it after killing Sadow. Notice how Nadd left Sadow's entire knowledge and his amulets on Yavin 4 when he could have taken them. Also nice how he never returned (despite the fact he basically had an army under his command) to discover anything of this "important secrets" when he was still alive.
I also recall Ommin slicing through both Warb Null and later Ommin like they were nothing.
I guess you're talking about Ulic. Warb Null was just some minor servant and Ommin (as far as the comics show) didn't even hit Ulic (as far as I remember) with his attack. Still the effect was more powerful or equal to the beam of the "deadly Sith amulet" that did hit Nomi later. And don't forget that Aleema was another of Nadd's students and he was able to instakill people and create large scale illusions.
Oh, and I suppose you and your side are bias free? Shall we pretend your only compatriots were 100 percent unbiased with the 'Bandon might take Yoda' stuff they threw out?
Since when am I responsible for the actions and thoughts of others ? I've often enough argued with IKC, Illustrious or Janus when it came down to PT vs pre-PT characters (see 'Revan vs Yoda' which turned into 'Exar Kun vs Yoda', my PT Jedi theory which Glentract put on his side although disagreeing with me). So don't act as if the Antediluvians (I guess that was what your "compatriots" - they are Germans now ? - referred to) were / are a group with homogeneous thougths on every topic. That is / was not the case.
Yeah, welcome to opposing sides, of course things'll be downplayed. The fact remains: Nadd murdered both masters when they refused to promote or teach him real secrets. We know he failed to destroy a rebellion on his world and said rebellion was a blight on his descendants for four hundred years.
Welcome to reality. Nadd killed a Jedi Master, managed to escape from a planet filled with Jedi, found Adas holocron and used it - in contrary to your own believe to subjugate Onderon, repelled the Beast Riders on hiw own using Sith Magic (meaning he is a one man army) even if he failed to completely destroy them. Of course he wanted to do so and because of that kept exiling people from Iziz to give the Beast Riders additional troops instead of killing those people (logic anybody ?).
Then even in his spirit form which he thought himself to be "powerless" was able to cause an avalanche, floor a Jedi Master on the other side of the Galaxy, pull a lightsaber out of the hands of a considerable powerful force user and kill his own descendant Ommin aside from sending messages through the Galaxy in the same moment he was finally exterminated.
Let's narrow someting down: I'm not denying Freedon was powerful. Top tier Sith with Kun, Marka, Palpatine? That's another story
Let's narrow something down: You judge Nadd by the power he displayed as a spirit - while he himself descripes that spirit form as "powerless" meaning he must have been quite more powerful when he was alive. The fact that he managed to kill one of the three most powerful individuals from the Golden Age of the Sith (no matter how he did it - Sadow had an army of mutated massassi to protect him) alone is enough to put him up in the ranks of powerful Dark Siders.
I'm sure Kun, Ragnos or Sidious would be able to take him down - but I'm pretty sure that won't be as easy as you seem to think.
