The Ancient Sith

Started by Lightsnake9 pages

Deception, you want to ignore another LFL author clarified that was way back 5000 years ago? You want to ignore that description is only TALKING ABOUT 5000 years ago?

And Sith'ari, give this 'disregarding the EU' stuff a rest. Doesn't matter if he considered it or not.

imo, he did.

Give it a rest. It doesn't matter a whit. Lucas said it, so others picked up on it. Meaning the PT? Prime of the Jedi

Yes it does matter, because if Lucas was disregarding the EU (which I think he was), all that statement proves is that the PT jedi order was stronger than the jedi order (if you can even call it an order) in the OT... duh.

Doesn't matter. Lucas said it, it goes.
PT>Jedi of ages past

No lightsnake, he said prime of the jedi in saber dueling, he never said anything about PT Jedi>past Jedi and future Jedi.

Nope, he said 'prime of the Jedi'
Let's use logic...Golden Age, Prime of the Jedi...
Nothing about saber dueling...just 'of the Jedi'

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Nope, he said 'prime of the Jedi'
Let's use logic...Golden Age, Prime of the Jedi...
Nothing about saber dueling...just 'of the Jedi'

Oh ok. So PT Jedi>NJO that includes Kyp, Kyle, and of course Luke.. Because that TRULY makes sense.

Golden age of the jedi = a relatively peaceful time with hardly any combat. This applies to some time before TPM to AOTC.

Prime of the Jedi = the jedi at its best in terms of saber dueling in the films. This applies to the prequel trilogy.

Except it was the Jeid fighting in their prime and EU's clarified it as golden age of powers. Lucas clarified it was their prime

Sorry.

Lucas was vague, the statement was unclear and ambiguous, the article was in a choreographical point of view (in other words, just the movies) and was simply only comparing the PT to the OT and thus disregarding the EU - in other words the statement doesn't apply to the EU. Don't you also happen to find it odd that the jedi at their best in terms of saber combat would be in a relatively peaceful period which saw very little combat (especially saber combat - hardly any) and where the most practiced form was Niman - the diplomat's form?

this isn't debateable. He said prime of the Jedi and that means PRIME of the Jedi.
Deal with it

Yes, it is. Just because you can't debate against it...

Right, not like I have Lucas...

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Oh ok. So PT Jedi>NJO that includes Kyp, Kyle, and of course Luke.. Because that TRULY makes sense.

I miss the days when everyone just couldn't be arsed to believe anything else than Revan being the greatest. I mean, he's got style, some of those ancient Jedi, not so much.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Doesn't matter. Lucas said it, it goes.
PT>Jedi of ages past

Funny that Lucas also mentions that he doesn't DEAL with the EU stuff. That stuff and his stuff are completely different, he says.

Does it mean whatever Lucas creates is the strongest? No, of course not.

Everything displayed by the ancients was far more impressive than what the PT Sith (Count Dooku, Sidious, Maul, Vader) have shown.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Funny that Lucas also mentions that he doesn't DEAL with the EU stuff. That stuff and his stuff are completely different, he says.

Does it mean whatever Lucas creates is the strongest? No, of course not.

Everything displayed by the ancients was far more impressive than what the PT Sith (Count Dooku, Sidious, Maul, Vader) have shown.

Exactly, as long as it doesn't contradicts Lucas' stuff, it works.

Let me make this abundantly clear to you all. If it doesn't work, I can have Ush come here and reiterate it. Once George Lucas gives off a statement regarding Star Wars, it is irrefutable. You cannot debate against it.

His opinion is the Star Wars law. Your opinions, Nebaris, are insignificant next to his, useless, and completely wrong if it directly defies Lucas's words and authority. As does mine, or anyone else's.

So, if he stated the PT to be the "prime of the Jedi" (which he did), then it is a cold, hard fact. You are not Lucas. Do not presume to possess the intellect, the authority, or the legal right to attempt to refute one of Lucas's statements. You don't possess any of the three.

He does not have to take the EU "into consideration" for it to become a fact in the EU. Considering how the PT Jedi Order is the only one we've seen in the movies at all, it obliterates your notion that it counts for "just the movies".

Lucas still has full authority over the movies and the Expanded Universe.

If you don't like it, sorry. Your opinions mean jack.

Ok so in your logic, the PT Jedi>Luke, Kype, Kyle too?