Originally posted by Regret
It is man that makes such an assumption.My belief states that God abides by all the laws he gives man. In mathematics it would not work with monotheistic belief to have two Gods.
everything + God > God
everything [is less than] God + God
everything [is less than] 2*GodSo God cannot sit on both sides without two Gods existing.
Also, if God does exist. He is separate, otherwise worship is unnecessary due to the fact that I am God in that scenario. If I am God, existence and goals are unnecessary, morals and values are unnecessary. Also, it makes God self destructive in that man kills man, if God is self destructive and capable of everything he will destroy himself. If he can destroy himself then he is not greater than all things, because something is required as the tool of such destruction.
Then those two gods would be one God. I do not see God separate.
Actually mathematically it would be:
(Everything - God) + God > God
(Everything - God) > God - God
Everything - God > 0
Everything > God
of course that assumes that God is part of everything.
You could also go:
God > Everything - God
God + God > everything
2*God > everything
God > everything/2
But that is really kind of nonsensical
The question is really why God has to be greater than everything rather than greater than the sum of His creations.
Originally posted by AllianceGod is or is in mathamatics..........
Can you do mathematics with god anyway?
What do you think???? 😕 😄
God did not create evil, He created choice.
Love cannot exist without the choice of the alternative.
Sure God could have made us all mindless robots that only obey Him, but our hearts wouldn't know what it means to love, because that's all there is - to follow God. So God gave us all a choice to follow, or not follow Him. And if we choose to follow, that is real love, because we choose God over ourselves, our posessions, the world, etc. God did not create "evil". Evil is simply the absence of God, who is love (1 John 4:16).
Evil is just like cold, it doesn't exist, it just describes the absence of heat. An object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, heat is what makes matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero is the total absence of heat. All matter becomes incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist, it's a word to describe how we feel when we have no heat.
Evil is just like darkness, it doesn't exist, it just describes the absence of light. Light you can study, but not darkness. A small shaft of light can illuminate the darkness. Can you know how dark a space is? No. You can only measure the amount of light present. Darkness is a term used to describe what happens when there is no light present.
Evil does not exist, it is simply the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not see God separate.
I thought you used the term God in reference to the essence/energy that is existence? I believe you would be correct in saying that everything cannot be separated from everything, and thus Everything cannot be greater than this essence. But that essence/energy isn't God in the sense used by the "God being/personage" religions. It is a different philosophical stance on spiritual existence.
Originally posted by Regret
I thought you used the term God in reference to the essence/energy that is existence? I believe you would be correct in saying that everything cannot be separated from everything, and thus Everything cannot be greater than this essence. But that essence/energy isn't God in the sense used by the "God being/personage" religions. It is a different philosophical stance on spiritual existence.
Yes, I knew that. The Christian way of thinking of God is incompatible with the way I think of God. Kind of like:
2+4=VI
The two number sets have the same meaning but try to divide Roman numerals.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfis that just the answer for everything? The reason why things contradict god is because he wants to f*ck with you? Is god like Ashton Kutcher or something and when we die will he jump out and say "YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D MOTHERF*CKA!!!!"
Or maybe God wants to test the loyalty of his creations?
Originally posted by Black Rob
is that just the answer for everything? The reason why things contradict god is because he wants to f*ck with you? Is god like Ashton Kutcher or something and when we die will he jump out and say "YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D MOTHERF*CKA!!!!"
Nah, I think he's more like a personal trainer. He tells us what exercises to do and if we don't do them it's our own dam fault if we end up looking like fat slobs (Hell, whatever)
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Is it ?If God is the creator of everything that exists, this Universe, and all its concepts, than he surely must have created Evil.
Evil cannot exist without his providing it, or atleast planting the seed for it. He created Lucifer, did he not? Surely he must have known what Lucifer had planned, and how many people were going to Hell....so what was the point to all of it then? Why allow that?
You Christians, Jews, and Muslims have always said nothing exists without God, that everything is dependent on God, so give me ANOTHER contradictory argument, and tell me how Evil exists without God.
Such being must be all good and all evil.
Abrahamic God seems rather vengeful. He smights and sends people to eternal suffering for every little thing.
Why do people insist on worshiping something that is so vengefull.