Mace and Depa vs. Exar and Ulic

Started by jollyjim31111 pages

Mace and Depa vs. Exar and Ulic

Everyone is at their peak. No offensive force powers, just lightsaber combat.

Setting: Mustafar.

I would go with Kun and Qel Droma 9/10 times. At his peak, Qel Droma was equal to or possibly better than Mace in saber combat. Kun at his peak is more powerful than Qel Droma..

What makes you say that? Mace has vaapad and shatterpoint.
Depa is... scary.

Firstly, there is no proof that Kun or Ulic are at the level of Mace or Depa.

Secondly, there is no proof that Kun would be more of a threat than Ulic in saber combat. Ulic has done far more impressive things in that field.

I mean, Mace is the one who is responsible for Jango's death, outclassed Asajj, left Sora in a pile of debris, etc. Not to mention the whole Sidious thing.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Firstly, there is no proof that Kun or Ulic are at the level of Mace or Depa.

Secondly, there is no proof that Kun would be more of a threat than Ulic in saber combat. Ulic has done far more impressive things in that field.

Except for the fact that Ulic stalemated Kun while Kun had not yet developed his new technique+saber. Except for the fact that Kun was leagues beyond everybody(with the exception of Ulic) in saber combat. There's nothing to suggest Mace could hold his own against Kun. Perhaps Ulic but not Kun.

I would say Depa is the weak link that Ulic removes.

Then it is a battle between Exar Kun+ Ulic versus Mace.

The DLOTS duo wins.

Team Vaapad has this easily.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Team Vaapad has this easily.

Sorry, there will be no "easily" for either side.

Exar>Mace
Ulic>Depa
or
Ulic>Mace maybe only slightly or at worst Ulic=Mace
Exar Kun>Depa.

Team TOTJ wins.

I think that Mace would beat Kun after a really long fight, and Ulic would beat Depa after a really long fight. It would really depend on who won first...

Mace would beat Kun? Really now? Since when is Mace even on par with Kun? If anything Mace is on par with Ulic at best. Only the likes of possibly Yoda and Luke could contend with Kun in his prime.

Oh, okay. Why, exactly?

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Depa is... scary.
Depa isn't scary, she's psychotic.

Once again, this is a lightsaber duel only. You'd be surprised at the amount of people who can contend with some of the "greats" in just sheer lightsaber combat.

In a regular fight to the death, I'd give Exar and Ulic the victory, if only due to their superior Force powers. However, since this is just a lightsaber match, yes, I believe that Mace and Depa stand an excellent chance.

We know that Mace is a lightsaber prodigy of the highest order. He is on par with Yoda, Dooku, and Sidious. He created his own lightsaber form, which was heralded as the most dangerous to master, which he did, thus proving that he has the skill to match his power. He isn't too far behind Yoda himself, and managed to defeat Palpatine in a single combat lightsaber duel.

Kun shares similarities... he invented his own, lethal lightsaber form, and possesses heralded prodigious strength in that area of combat as well.

I would say that Mace has an excellent chance of defeating Kun, given his own skill and experience (which I would argue rivals Kun's own). He also possesses an inherit lightsaber form honed specifically against Dark Side users, which would also give him an edge. To top it off, he does have the Shatterpoint ability.

Then again, Mace cannot even hope to match Kun's strength... despite his overblown Clone Wars feats. Nor, do I think, can he hope to match Kun's speed and agility. Furthermore, the Shatterpoint ability is not instant - nor is it to say that it would automatically give him a victory...

So... toughie. 😖

You also have to take into account that Kun defeated perhaps the best dueler in the galaxy at the time in Vodo, as only a Padawan. His unique lightsaber style should be too much for Mace and obviously Depa to handle, not to mention his powerful blows.

Match Kun's strength? Mace was able to contend in a sheer battle with strength. And for once this 'Exar created his own style' stuff doesn't work because Mace did likewise.
Kun has several feats of raw, physical power, and so does Mace. Kun's own darkness would be thrown back in his face, along with Mace's Shatterpoint ability?

I'd give this to Mace. He's on Kun's level

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You also have to take into account that Kun defeated perhaps the best dueler in the galaxy at the time in Vodo, as only a Padawan. His unique lightsaber style should be too much for Mace and obviously Depa to handle, not to mention his powerful blows.

Mm-hmm. But, once again, in just a sheer lightsaber match, it is highly unlikely that Kun is simply going to decimate Mace. Considering how Yoda could contend - and possibly defeat - Kun in a fight to the death, I believe that Mace has similar odds, considering how the gap between he and Yoda is not that much.

Mace possesses his own advantages that are unavaiable to Kun. Enough that it would possibly be a very good fight.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Match Kun's strength? Mace was able to contend in a sheer battle with strength. And for once this 'Exar created his own style' stuff doesn't work because Mace did likewise.
Kun has several feats of raw, physical power, and so does Mace. Kun's own darkness would be thrown back in his face, along with Mace's Shatterpoint ability?

I'd give this to Mace. He's on Kun's level

Gee, if he is on Kun's level, why would you give it to Mace? Mace isn't on Kun's level, sorry lightsnake. Yoda is on Kun's level. Mace has his form and shatterpoint but he does not have the speed, agility, nor power to keep up with Kun.

Speed, agility and power? You're basing this on what? When was Kun's speed and agility shown? Last I checked, Mace was crushing droids with his bare hands, moving faster than Kar Vastor's eyes could see and keeping up with Kar Vastor.

Why'm I giving it to Mace? Shatterpoint ability