Mace and Depa vs. Exar and Ulic

interesting

Yoda is directly stated as the strongest Jedi in several sources. It's not untrue becaue it was stated by omniscient narrarators. Including in the ROTS novelization. Tough luck, zephiel

I know this's hard for TOTJ fans to accept, but Yoda>Every Jedi there.

That's great but Yoda>All Jedi before Luke just means that. Yoda=/the most powerful sith of TOTJ and before.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yoda is directly stated as the strongest Jedi in several sources. It's not untrue becaue it was stated by omniscient narrarators. Including in the ROTS novelization. Tough luck, zephiel

I know this's hard for TOTJ fans to accept, but Yoda>Every Jedi there.

What is the margin of superiority between Yoda and Vodo? Mace could barely tie Yoda, whereas Exar Kun completely tooled Vodo.

Lightsnake can hide behind his quotes, but they don't pertain to any DLOTS of sith lords, which in the TOTJ time were more powerful than the Jedi.

Hm, margin of power?
Vodo was using a breakable stick, couldn't bring himself to truly fight exar-he even said this himself- and still held onto hope his apprentice could be saved to the end.

Yoda's stronger, faster, more agile and won't hesitate to kill Mr. Kun.

Fact remains. Yoda>Vodo. And all his TOTJ ilk. So, the Sith Lords lords of tOTJ times-oh, last I checked, only took Nomi seconds to defeat Ulic completely when she got angry at him- would do as well against the Jedi of the stronger age...how?

Nai's given the best reasons already. When Kun can overcome a vaapad master where his own dark power'd be no use and the shatterpoint, which is a gift inherent to Mace..

Originally posted by Lightsnake
oh, last I checked, only took Nomi seconds to defeat Ulic completely when she got angry at him- would do as well against the Jedi of the stronger age...how?

If you're referring to stripping Ulic of the Force, that's possibly explained by the fact Ulic wasn't trying to fight back, or defend off, seeing as how he just became his brother's slayer. He was completely weak, and vulnerable at that point.

Ulic is also blocked temporarily earlier.

Plus, if we can keep throwing Kun's accomplishment of beating a reluctant Vodo, then that should be Qel-Droma's loss

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hm, margin of power?
Vodo was using a breakable stick, couldn't bring himself to truly fight exar-he even said this himself- and still held onto hope his apprentice could be saved to the end.

Yoda's stronger, faster, more agile and won't hesitate to kill Mr. Kun.

Fact remains. Yoda>Vodo. And all his TOTJ ilk. So, the Sith Lords lords of tOTJ times-oh, last I checked, only took Nomi seconds to defeat Ulic completely when she got angry at him- would do as well against the Jedi of the stronger age...how?

Nai's given the best reasons already. When Kun can overcome a vaapad master where his own dark power'd be no use and the shatterpoint, which is a gift inherent to Mace..

Gee, a stick that was described by the narrator as being more powerful than a lightsaber.. So your "breakable stick" logic has failed. Next, he came in there with the intent to stop Exar Kun, he stated he was going to stop him, and he did try to stop hi, so your other logic has failed. So if that's your logic for proving Yoda>vodo, I suggest you let Sama or Nai handle this argument. Yoda>TOTJ now? Please lightsnake don't let your PT fanboyism get in the way of logical thinking. And my favorite..

"When Kun can overcome" bla hblah blah. Reading that makes me laugh at your retardation. I can just as easily say "when Mace can overcome the creator and master of the double bladed saber with a technique Mace hasn't seen before", I can sound as stupid as you are sounding now. Logic>Your ridiculous assumptions.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ulic is also blocked temporarily earlier.

Yes, he's temporarily blocked when about seven? Or so Jedi combine powers to do it. Two Jedi, Master Vodo - who, along with the other, was taught by Odan "I strip Ancient Sith for breakfast" Urr, and Nomi "Force Prodigy" Sunrider, used the blocking technique on Ulic, and then about five or even more Jedi added their powers to help "cement" a temporary wall of light:

Plus, if we can keep throwing Kun's accomplishment of beating a reluctant Vodo, then that should be Qel-Droma's loss

What do you mean? What should be Qel-Droma's loss?

being blocked by Nomi. Hell with circumstance: He lost.
And there's proof he'd have been able to defend himself from the start anyways?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
being blocked by Nomi. Hell with circumstance: He lost.
And there's proof he'd have been able to defend himself from the start anyways?

What does that have to do with anything lightsnake, or is this another poor attempt to discredit anybody but the PT Jedi?

People throw around how Exar tooled Vodo.
According to vodo himself, his heart wasn't in the fight and he still loved Exar as his apprentice

Originally posted by Lightsnake
People throw around how Exar tooled Vodo.
According to vodo himself, his heart wasn't in the fight and he still loved Exar as his apprentice

Really? Because Exar did tool Vodo, because Vodo said he was going to stop Exar Kun, and because he came there with the full intention of stopping Exar Kun. Making shit up?

Read JA lately? Vodo says himself he couldn't really fight Exar. So unless he's making stuff up for Luke...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
being blocked by Nomi. Hell with circumstance: He lost.

He couldn't have lost, because he was never fighting. How can you lose something you aren't participating in? You can't.

And there's proof he'd have been able to defend himself from the start anyways?

Probably the fact it required seven Jedi to do it the first time? Or the fact he could've killed Nomi with a lightsaber easily. He was on the ground, and he had more than enough time to stab her or distract her.

She attacked him. That's a fight.

And 'required' seven Jedi? Prove it?

I counted 9 Jedi that were doing it. And again lightsnake, quit making shit up because he specifically states the he must stop Exar Kun more than once, stop playing stupid.

O, DS talks up! Mr. "There's a difference between what was needed and used."

Oh, my...sorry, but in the JA trilogy, Vodo's spirit admits he couldn't really fight Exar.

Sorry

Originally posted by Lightsnake
O, DS talks up! Mr. "There's a difference between what was needed and used."

Oh, my...sorry, but in the JA trilogy, Vodo's spirit admits he couldn't really fight Exar.

Sorry

Oh my, in the actual fight and before the fight, meaning in the TOTJ where he was alive, not 4,000 years later, he had the intentions of stopping Exar Kun, he said it, the narrator said it, so you have no argument just because his "Spirit" admits he couldn't really "Fight" kun.