Originally posted by Creshosk
What, little guys not going flying from a brick hit?There's a certain fight between namor and Wolverine you might be interested in... 😖hifty:
Little guys going flying from brick hits.. pick up a team book where they fight a brick...
Originally posted by Priest
Yes, but there were occations that wolvierine couldent.Wolverine can hang with some of the top tiers, ill addmit that.but with no PIS/CIS wolverine wouldent beat hurcules. Hurcules is a amazzing fighter, with uber strength.
All the instances where Wolverine failed to cut the Hulk were retconned to Hulk having healed to fast for anyone to notice he would cut.
With PIS/CIS turned off Wolverine wont just rake Hercules chest with his claws when he attacks, he'll cleave right through him.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Namor's skin. Hercules has admitted that Namor is is equal in every single way except strength (where Hercules has the slight edge) and speed (where Namor has a slight edge) and Avenging Son confirmed it. Wolverine would have no problem piercing Hercules.
Your thinking about the underwater figth where Namor said that. Hercules as expected didnt agreed. Not that it matters much.
And the claws will cut Herc on average. But thats it. Except for one example you dont have Wolverine cutting thro or cutting off top tier limbs.
Especially of top tier who can dodge (and have dodged) his claws.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Ah, the staple of the Hercules wins argument! Hercules is stronger then Wolverine you say? I never would have guessed. Well, now that totally changes my opinion of the fight. I guess Hercules would win after all! 🙄Hercules is a demi-god. Hercules is a thousand times stronger. All true but so what? You know what Hercules isn't? Immortal. Invulnerable. Untouchable. The fight has to be a melee fight, there is no other options. So why is it that a faster, more skilled opponent who has the means to end the fight with one well placed blow isn't a match for him? Because Hercules is a demi-god. Because Hercules is a thousand times stronger. There is no argument here. You guys sound like a bunch of eight year old standing in the play ground saying "because" over and over again.
Best of Lucks.
Originally posted by jinzin
no he successfully KOed grey hulk and the real fight that followed up, ended in a stalemate as it was.the second fight wolverine almost drowned hulk.. hulk needed an extra boost of fury and power to survive the fight... and hulk STILL ended up unconcious.. not wolverine...
way to show you know about squat for what we're discussing here... 😬and so was wolverine... he got an admantium skeleton and a nifty suit with camo mode, and psionic failsafes... prove to me where it's ever been statewd ANYWHERE that he was given more than that..
avengers fight hulk... herc goes in a goes a round or two... avengers fight hulk.. it's not the same as a 1on1.... 😕
if that's the case wolverine handeled hulk just fine during their spat in the infinity war.
it was circumstantial.. he was on the fritz and mr. fantastic even states that on panal.. why don't brick shots work like that the other 100% of the time? oh that's right cause the one time it DID happen it was under circumstances..
thanos isn't in the top tier bracket now? 😕
no I count it as a superior showing cause
a) herc was scared to death of wolverie's claws
b) herc had to grab a shield to even try and deal with wolverine.
and c) wolverine put herc on his ass and hit him so hard herc was rubbing his jaw...no I'm discounting it cause it wasn't a fight.. what happened.. herc once again sprang for a shield.. and then he ran away... not a fight... knocking wolveirne down does not equate to a victory... and running away from someone, and shielding yourself from them with the fear of god in your voice equates to even less so.
yup two superior wolvie showings over hercs controverisal ONE.
1- Your example has been discussed ad nauseum. Grey Hulk isent top tier. And in theyr figth the moment he started raging up closer, he effect the claws wer having was less and less.
2- Since that never happened in the Larsen figth (and its the "second figth" i was refering to) then you have to mean another. Post it.
3- In a response to DarkCralwer you just said he was. Rigth after telling me he wasent. Wouldnt be easier to say, "i just dont know"? That way we wouldnt have to guess wich of the two you mean at any given time.
4- Dont be. one x one is when you (without others figthing at the same time) go against an opponent (without this one having others also backing up at the same time).
Hercules went toe to toe with that Hulk, alone. The other Avengers wer looking and didnt stepped in. In the second figth however Herc fougth alongside the Avengers.
5- He challenged Grim on his face. Whats circunstancial about it. Psst, that wasent the only time hes been one shot.
5.1- Your best acts are: Grey "im not top tier" Hulk / Thanos "i jobbed to Logan and Spiderman after the most powerful heroes shots did nothing". And a win you CANT even tell how it went.
I can be calm as daisy to know i have the good evidence on my side. Yes sir!
6- Come over everyone. After you get humiliated if you managed to score finally one shot, you get the win. Go tell the kids at school!
The mention was of the Bar figth, btw. Its priceless you count the win due to him being aware of what the claws can do. He knows they can cut him. So why would anyone take them ligthy? They still fail to do jack anyway. Why? Because he isent going to stand there and let Logan cut him all day long.
2nd P.S: Laid down and amused = hurt? har Har.
7- It would be according to you. Getting a sho t= The win < Jinzin law.
P.S: Superior showing isent = a win. Its just that. A SUPERIOR showing. Herc was faster and easily dismissed him. Him and the other NA sans Sentry, crew. Considering he did all the shots over the ones Logan -tried- to do, how can that be nothing other than superiority?
8- Two Herc superior showings over the actual contriversial Wolverine one. The one, no one knows what happened because the writer didnt showed shit 😆 thats what contriversal is, dup.
Yeah, well, they should read more dictionaries.
dodge
v. dodged, dodg·ing, dodg·es
v.tr.
1. To avoid (a blow, for example) by moving or shifting quickly aside.
2. To evade (an obligation, for example) by cunning, trickery, or deceit: kept dodging the reporter's questions.
3. To blunt or reduce the intensity of (a section of a photograph) by shading during the printing process.
v.intr.
1. To move aside or in a given direction by shifting or twisting suddenly: The child dodged through the crowd.
2. To practice trickery or cunning; prevaricate.
n.
1. The act of dodging.
2. An ingenious expedient intended to evade or trick.