Super-Man VS Nate Grey

Started by What If...19 pages
This is assuming SM doesn't pull a speedblitz.

Soleran, he can't speedblitz him.

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Unless I see the how fast that guy travels that might mean something. Marvel doesn't even get close to DC speedsters on average.

That being said in my opinion, speed is Nate's only weakness with SM. Otherwise SM gets housed, hard.

I don't see how speed really matters.

No matter how many shards he would be broken into, he would reassemble.

Originally posted by What If...
I don't see how speed really matters.

No matter how many shards he would be broken into, he would reassemble.

This is a trump card? Superman has fought tons of enemies that can reform themselves or are immortal in some way.

Nate reforms himself, he'll get destroyed again and again, or T-vo simply keeps him from reforming.

Nate still has human endurance, he can't keep that up forever.

Yeah but once again all Nate needs to do is dimension dump superman before he reforms. Nate's TK is sick, matter manipulating time stopping high level.

Superman's not gonna take this without speed, we aren't comic book writers and Nate wouldn't job especially not as powerful as he was before he left his body.

I found over the years there is no point in arguing with someone who has a superman sig bye

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah but once again all Nate needs to do is dimension dump superman before he reforms. Nate's TK is sick, matter manipulating time stopping high level.

Superman's not gonna take this without speed, we aren't comic book writers and Nate wouldn't job especially not as powerful as he was before he left his body.

So is Dominus except he creates realities and has enough power to threaten DC's version of Eternity. Speedblitz would be the quickest way, but T-vo is definitely a trump card here.

Originally posted by What If...
I found over the years there is no point in arguing with someone who has a superman sig bye

The same could be said for X-men fans who think practically every mutant is a galaxy destroyer.

Dominus who has everything X-man has and more>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>X-man and was defeated with T-vo.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So is Dominus except he creates realities and has enough power to threaten DC's version of Eternity.

Yet he wasn't smart enough to dump Superman in a dimension, oh well huh. Nate was brutal before he gave up his essence for the planet.

Nate would use his TK prevent all time and movement around him then drop Superman into another dimension, game set match.

Please save the Dominus example its as bad as Superman drinking kryptonite Koolaide then beating up Darkseid.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yet he wasn't smart enough to dump Superman in a dimension, oh well huh. Nate was brutal before he gave up his essence for the planet.

Nate would use his TK prevent all time and movement around him then drop Superman into another dimension, game set match.

Please save the Dominus example its as bad as Superman drinking kryptonite Koolaide then beating up Darkseid.

Did you look at a scan I posted earlier of Dominus OWNING Superman?
In nearly all their battles Dominus would toss him around realities so what are you talking about?

Once Supes mastered T-vo, everything changed... they were going back and forth restructuring reality around them.

Everything claimed here for Nate, Dominus has in spades at higher levels. If he didn't, I wouldn't bother to debate.

You want to bring up ridiculous scenarios and then discard equally ridiculous ones? You don't get to pick and choose...sorry.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Did you look at a scan I posted earlier of Dominus OWNING Superman?
In nearly all their battles Dominus would toss him around realities so what are you talking about?

Once Supes mastered T-vo, everything changed... they were going back and forth restructuring reality around them.

So Superman is a reality manipulator now as well? Or was Superman simply Tvo (using his will) to alter that around him? Cuz if thats the case Nate shuts down Superman's basal brain functions and then sends him into another dimension.

Lol Nate wouldn't sit around trying to torture SM, he would just dump him in another Dimension and just leave him, if Superman can T-Vo out of that by himself then we can talk.

Originally posted by batdude123
Tell that to Dominus who's a skyfather level being. 🙄

Please, Dominus was a character SOLELY created to give Superfans jizzims. Aside from the fact that he has uncanny resemblance to the Living Tribunal, he also displayed some of the most ineffective means of using his powers. I especially like the way he used his reality altering powers; he summoned forth more powerful versions of Superman!!! (KC Supes and Supes 1 Million). Dominus is supposedly very powerful but he never really showed it. He has "cockstroking" and "fan-wanking" written all over him.

Originally posted by Soleran
So Superman is a reality manipulator now as well? Or was Superman simply Tvo (using his will) to alter that around him? Cuz if thats the case Nate shuts down Superman's basal brain functions and then sends him into another dimension.

Lol Nate wouldn't sit around trying to torture SM, he would just dump him in another Dimension and just leave him, if Superman can T-Vo out of that by himself then we can talk.

So, in other words you had no idea that Dominus tried all that and now you're trying to be a smartass about it...Nice....

By your example, he'd beat people like Thanos and various heralds with no problem...hell, he'd beat Thor and Doomsday too!

Superman lobotomizes Nate and leaves him gasping for use of his power. Better yet, throws him into the sun, sucks the air out of his lungs, HV's him into submission, or uses T-vo to prevent Nate from accessing his powers.

Good luck with trying to shut down Supermans brain activity while being KO'd or being prevented from accessing powers.

It only took Max years to pull that feat...and golly, we know Superman just isn't resistant to anything...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So, in other words you had no idea that Dominus tried all that and now you're trying to be a smartass about it...Nice....

By your example, he'd beat people like Thanos and various heralds with no problem...hell, he'd beat Thor and Doomsday too!

Superman lobotomizes Nate and leaves him gasping for use of his power. Better yet, throws him into the sun, sucks the air out of his lungs, HV's him into submission, or uses T-vo to prevent Nate from accessing his powers.

Good luck with trying to shut down Supermans brain activity while being KO'd or being prevented from accessing powers.

It only took Max years to pull that feat...and golly, we know Superman just isn't resistant to anything...

Only with Superman's speed, with his speedblitz I agree. Without it Nate would crush Superman.

The likelyhood of Superman's T-Vo overcoming Nate's powers is all in a SM fan's wetdream🙂 Show me T-vo stopping time, transversing dimensions, forming armor etc etc.

What you have shown me is that Dominus is perhaps one of the biggest retards in history of villians with his application of powers.

lol Nate TK's Superman's brain out his ears! Superman's speed is his best and only win.

Oh yeah and Max was a sucktard TP user as compared to Nate.

Originally posted by Soleran
Only with Superman's speed, with his speedblitz I agree. Without it Nate would crush Superman.

The likelyhood of Superman's T-Vo overcoming Nate's powers is all in a SM fan's wetdream🙂 Show me T-vo stopping time, transversing dimensions, forming armor etc etc.

What you have shown me is that Dominus is perhaps one of the biggest retards in history of villians with his application of powers.

lol Nate TK's Superman's brain out his ears! Superman's speed is his best and only win.

Oh yeah and Max was a sucktard TP user as compared to Nate.

The problem with that is; Superman can use his powers a hell of a lot faster than Nate can use his.

If Superman can speed blitz then there are no reasons why Superman looses ....... he can physical destroy nate in less than a second.

How does nate stop Speedblitz i don't get that part?

If Superman can speed blitz then there are no reasons why Superman looses ....... he can physical destroy nate in less than a second.

How does nate stop Speedblitz i don't get that part?

You honeslty have to be visually imparred to not see the link I've posted.

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I've spammed it dozens of times.

This is a trump card? Superman has fought tons of enemies that can reform themselves or are immortal in some way.

Nate reforms himself, he'll get destroyed again and again, or T-vo simply keeps him from reforming.

Nate still has human endurance, he can't keep that up forever

After that, he will easily have time to put up a TK shield.

The same could be said for X-men fans who think practically every mutant is a galaxy destroyer.

Actually, I like marvel because hardly anyone IS a galzay destroyer.
Nate is a physco, he is above normal mutants from his crazy genes.
More than half of the DC universe is considered galaxy destroyers.

Go pleasure yourself to some nice superman hentai.

Originally posted by What If...
You honeslty have to be visually imparred to not see the link I've posted.
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7463/126jz.jpg

I've spammed it dozens of times.

😱 what is that an illusion?

Originally posted by Soleran
Only with Superman's speed, with his speedblitz I agree. Without it Nate would crush Superman.

The likelyhood of Superman's T-Vo overcoming Nate's powers is all in a SM fan's wetdream🙂 Show me T-vo stopping time, transversing dimensions, forming armor etc etc.

Hmm... Before... Gee...Dominus can do any of that easily and on a universal level.

After...

Gee...It's Superman tapping into Dominus power set and them going back and forth altering reality..hmm AND it handily protects him psychicly as well...

Originally posted by Soleran
What you have shown me is that Dominus is perhaps one of the biggest retards in history of villians with his application of powers.

Yup..Dominus sure uses his powers in silly ways... 🙄 No power there....

Originally posted by Soleran
lol Nate TK's Superman's brain out his ears! Superman's speed is his best and only win.

Speed is a good win, T-vo is his best win, and there are plenty more fun ways. Nate is good, but not THAT good...sorry.

Originally posted by Soleran
Oh yeah and Max was a sucktard TP user as compared to Nate.

Your opinion. I could care less which character you like best...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Hmm... Before... Gee...Dominus can do any of that easily and on a universal level.

After...

Gee...It's Superman tapping into Dominus power set and them going back and forth altering reality..hmm AND it handily protects him psychicly as well...

Yup..Dominus sure uses his powers in silly ways... 🙄 No power there....

Speed is a good win, T-vo is his best win, and there are plenty more fun ways. Nate is good, but not THAT good...sorry.

Your opinion. I could care less which character you like best...


PIS!!!

Originally posted by What If...
You honeslty have to be visually imparred to not see the link I've posted.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7463/126jz.jpg
I've spammed it dozens of times.


And this has been shown a few times as well..are YOU blind?
Access and blockage of telepathic ability and tampering of another characters powerset. A character that we all know if FAR superior to Nate...

Originally posted by What If...
After that, he will easily have time to put up a TK shield.

Blackrock, being powered by MILLIONS of sources feels the need to piss off Superman.... and ends up quite sorry for it. There goes your shield theory.

Originally posted by What If...
Actually, I like marvel because hardly anyone IS a galzay destroyer.
Nate is a physco, he is above normal mutants from his crazy genes.
More than half of the DC universe is considered galaxy destroyers.

Go pleasure yourself to some nice superman hentai.

Never knew there was Superman hentai. Guess you must be pleasuring yourself to it as I type this.

Now keep your childish insults to yourself and stick to the facts in the debate.