Originally posted by llagrok
People aren't listening to Alfheim here.He doesn't believe that the Flash can steal the Hulk's speed, because the Hulk has resisted some weaker forms of matter manipulation. It's not that he doesn't understand, it's that he does NOT WANT TO.
LOL a guy how was so powerful that he took them to another dimension and can repel Dr Stranges magic. hysterical
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Originally posted by AlfheimYou have no proof of reality warping. And it would be irrelevant since you're equivocating with that anyway, Betsy Braddock and Meggan aren't suddenly "immune to inertia," (which to me is as ridiculous as it sounds 🙂) if they were they'd go flying off the Earth. Being shrunk? Who cares, it's completely irrelevant to Flash's abilities? Being turned to stone? Oh, look I have scans that work:
If Hulk can resist reality warping, being shrunk, turned into stone, phasing something tells me that stealing his speed isnt just going to work. Common sense shows his body does not just work on a physical level.
Originally posted by AlfheimRegular people were running around, talking, and watching. As were a lot of heros who have zero superspeed.
This is absurd. You know the number of times ive seen characters talk while dodging bullets. So that means the bullets were so slow that they slowed down for the characters to speak.....gimmie a break
I guess they were all moving lightspeed too.
Originally posted by AlfheimHolding back doesn’t mean that he is also not trying not to be hit, you say that if he got hit that means that he was traveling at top speed which doesn’t imply this that he was not pulling his punches and he was going toe to toe trading punches. If he was moving at light speed which he can’t then it wouldn’t be trading punches and standing toe to toe with him.
I think he just didnt care but if a character states that hes not holding back and charges a character im assuming he is not going to slow down. 😐
Originally posted by AlfheimBecause you say that he could resist the Reality Gem, far lesser power characters have warped, dampened him and more.
LOL so because I said that he has resisted reality warping means that hes immune to it.
Originally posted by AlfheimOh this is just getting stupid. Actually edit: It got stupid a while ago. There was no depiction of lightspeed, no depiction of anything even near lightspeed, there weren't even sonic booms from flight iirc. And everyone was watching them fight.
He said he wasnt holding back so we can assume it was at lightspeed. If Hulk had no problem hitting him you cant assume that he would be totally stumped if he moved around him.
Someone running directly at me (wanting to get hit) from an obvious trajectory, is the same as someone actively avoiding getting hit?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You have no proof of reality warping.
Er when Hulk was fighting him they ended up in the nexus of realities and when he uses his powers it repels magic....thats no proof.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And it would be irrelevant since you're equivocating with that anyway, Betsy Braddock and Meggan aren't suddenly "immune to inertia," (which to me is as ridiculous as it sounds 🙂) if they were they'd go flying off the Earth. Being shrunk? Who cares, it's completely irrelevant to Flash's abilities? Being turned to stone? Oh, look I have scans that work:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page13lf6.jpg Turning things to stone by Grey Gargoyle and a crappy one time villainess who can only turn things to glass during a full moon mean what exactly to Flash? Phasing? Kitty's phased Hulk, it wasn't depicted correctly, but he was still phased. And again what's that got to do with speed stealing, except tell us that Hulk's atoms can be affected by others powers.
LOL you just dont get it do you. All the example clearly show you that his body works on a metaphysical level, do the math. Hulk is capable of handling non-physical objects so you are not just dealing with a physical body. Get it? 😐
Originally posted by AlfheimOh I get it.
LOL you just dont get it do you. All the example clearly show you that his body works on a metaphysical level, do the math. Hulk is capable of handling non-physical objects so you are not just dealing with a physical body. Get it? 😐
You're basing an unfounded speculation that Hulk can resist speed stealing, based on an unfounded speculation that Hulk has "inertia resistance", based on an unfounded speculation that Hulk's matter can resist any and every aspects of reality because his body (despite instances of obviously being susceptible to others' powers) has "resisted reality," and equivocation of that speculation, which is somehow based on a speculative interpretation of these same instances to mean that Hulk is superawesomeo metaphysical, furthered by a speculative interpretation of a one time occurrence.
Originally posted by Juntai
Regular people were running around, talking, and watching. As were a lot of heros who have zero superspeed.I guess they were all moving lightspeed too.
Did you even read this?
Originally posted by Alfheim
This is absurd. You know the number of times ive seen characters talk while dodging bullets. So that means the bullets were so slow that they slowed down for the characters to speak.....gimmie a break
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Holding back doesn’t mean that he is also not trying not to be hit, you say that if he got hit that means that he was traveling at top speed which doesn’t imply this that he was not pulling his punches and he was going toe to toe trading punches.
Did he state that he was pulling his punches? Did he say that he was not holding back..yes.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
If he was moving at light speed which he can’t then it wouldn’t be trading punches and standing toe to toe with him.
I thought it takes light from the sun 8 mins to reach earth?
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Because you say that he could resist the Reality Gem, far lesser power characters have warped, dampened him and more.
I said that he could resist reality warping, not everydbody that uses the reality gem is powerful.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Oh this is just getting stupid. Actually edit: It got stupid a while ago. There was no depiction of lightspeed, no depiction of anything even near lightspeed, there weren't even sonic booms from flight iirc. And everyone was watching them fight.
LOL people fly st supersonic speed all the time without making sonic booms ....oh this is getting stupid. 👆
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Someone running directly at me (wanting to get hit) from an obvious trajectory, is the same as someone actively avoiding getting hit?
Not caring about being hit is different from wanting to get hit. When he charged Hulk it wanst because he wnted to get hit he just dindt care.
Originally posted by AlfheimSo Marvel is wrong, give me a break.
Sentry has travlled to the sun and back in moments and he charges somebody and states that he was not holding back.You do the math.
The sun is at its maximum 94.5 million miles from the Earth, the speed of light is 186,282.397 miles per second. Not really that fast if you ask me if it took him moments, in one second he would have been able to do that 1950.60 times. You do the math, wait I just did.
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Originally posted by ultimatethor
I like the hulk and i really wish i could say he could win but ic ant. How can you beat someone u cant hit when hitting is your way of winning? The hulk might have hit the sentry but considering that the flash is far far far faster than d sentry he aint hitting the flash
My reply: STALEMATE.
This issue is really that,
1. Flash is not capable of stealing all of Hulks unlimited kinetic energies.
2. Flash cant kill Hulk physically.
3. Although Flash can be outright killed if hit by a single Hulk strike...Flash is more than fast enough to avoid ever being hit by Hulk....except for critical errors, which Flash has actually made on multiple occasions...we won't take them into account here.
Its Likely any skirmish between these two likely end in a stalemate or BFR or something...but I don't realistically see one beating the other physically.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh I get it.You're basing an unfounded speculation that Hulk can resist speed stealing, based on an unfounded speculation that Hulk has "inertia resistance", based on an unfounded speculation that Hulk's matter can resist aspects of reality because his body (despite instances of obviously being susceptible to others' powers) has "resisted reality," and equivocation of that speculation, which is somehow based on a speculative interpretation of these same instances, furthered by a speculative interpretation of a one time occurrence.
What do you want me to say.
1. The scans dont work, so I cant acces them.....ok? But the scans clearly showed they were not just working on a physical level
2. Vectors powers repel magic.
3. When Hulk was fighting them it took them to another dimension.
Originally posted by AlfheimPlease learn how to quote properly.
Did you even read this?Did he state that he was pulling his punches? Did he say that he was not holding back..yes.
I thought it takes light from the sun 8 mins to reach earth?
I said that he could resist reality warping, not everydbody that uses the reality gem is powerful.
LOL people fly st supersonic speed all the time without making sonic booms ....oh this is getting stupid. 👆
Not caring about being hit is different from wanting to get hit. When he charged Hulk it wanst because he wnted to get hit he just dindt care.
Originally posted by Da PittmanNo dude, you don't get it. Hulk was moving just as fast, and so were all the civilians and heros with no superspeed.
So Marvel is wrong, give me a break.The sun is at its maximum 94.5 million miles from the Earth, the speed of light is 186,282.397 miles per second. Not really that fast if you ask me if it took him moments, in one second he would have been able to do that 1950.60 times. You do the math, wait I just did.
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Originally posted by Da Pittman
So Marvel is wrong, give me a break.
So what your saying is that if marvel say that his speed is 5 then its 5?
Originally posted by Da Pittman
The sun is at its maximum 94.5 million miles from the Earth, the speed of light is 186,282.397 miles per second. Not really that fast if you ask me if it took him moments, in one second he would have been able to do that 1950.60 times. You do the math, wait I just did.😛
Does it take light from sun to reach the earth in 8 minutes? If he can travel to the sun and back in moments isnt that faster than 8 minutes
