Flash vs Hulk

Started by Alfheim53 pages

Yeah then theres that as well, but I thought that was obvious.

The Flash only needs to touch the Hulk once, to steal his speed.

Originally posted by llagrok
The Flash only needs to touch the Hulk once, to steal his speed.
Not even touch, just look at him. Though usually he does touch.

flash 10/10 hulk will never hit flash

Originally posted by SumOfAllFear
flash 10/10 hulk will never hit flash
Pretty much.

Again if he can hit Sentry its arguable that he can hit Flash. 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
Not even touch, just look at him. Though usually he does touch.

Thats just it, you cant steal an unlimited source of kinetic energy.

This is why Silver Surfer and Thanos wont go toe to toe with Hulk. The unlimited source can't be trumped.

So Surfer for instance...was capable of draining Banners link to his source instead....the gamma cells themselves.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well it did say he repeled the structure of reality itself didnt it?

Hell it even says this:

Vector was once shown to be able to block and repel the attempts of various superheroes and friends of the Hulk to locate Gamma Base, including the MAGIC of Doctor Strange and the tracking technology of Iron Man and Reed Richards.

That's nice but Flash isn't fighting Vector. You'd also have to show in some manner that this character was actually using his ability to repel "reality" on Hulk, and not just a repulsive force against a body of matter. None of which is even particularly relevant to Flash's speed stealing. Huc has been transmuted, Huc has been phased, Huc's matter can be affected. Huc physically forced his way through a repulsive force/barrier? So? What else is new?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Vector has the power to even repel magic.
That's nice but Flash isn't fighting Vector.

Betsy Braddock is immune to actual reality warping - not some repulsive force. Her speed can't be stolen? She's immune to all aspects of "reality"?
Meggan of sound mind can't be warped by Jamie Braddock's actual reality warping - again not some repulsive force. Her speed can't be stolen? She's somehow immune to all aspects that are encompassed by "reality."

Originally posted by Alfheim
Again if he can hit Sentry its arguable that he can hit Flash. 😐

Damn, there's a lot of people who can hit FTL speed guys then.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Again if he can hit Sentry its arguable that he can hit Flash. 😐
1) Sentry flew in straight lines right at the Hulk, at speeds nowhere near whatsoever those attainable by Flash. There was no indication of what one would consider superspeed limb movement.
2) Sentry's other speed feats still suck compared to Flash's.

Flash raced death to the end of time and won.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's nice but Flash isn't fighting Vector. You'd also have to show in some manner that this character was actually using his ability to repel "reality" on Hulk, and not just a repulsive force against a body of matter. None of which is even particularly relevant to Flash's speed stealing. Huc has been transmuted, Huc has been phased, Huc's matter can be affected. Huc physically forced his way through a repulsive force/barrier? So? What else is new?That's nice but Flash isn't fighting Vector.
Betsy Braddock is immune to actual reality warping - not some repulsive force. Her speed can't be stolen? She's immune to all aspects of "reality"?
Meggan of sound mind can't be warped by Jamie Braddock's actual reality warping - again not some repulsive force. Her speed can't be stolen? She's somehow immune to all aspects that are encompassed by "reality."

Well the scans are not working but it clearly show in his bio thats how Vectors powers work they dont just move things physically.

If Hulk can resist reality warping, being shrunk, turned into stone, phasing something tells me that stealing his speed isnt just going to work. Common sense shows his body does not just work on a physical level.

Originally posted by llagrok
Damn, there's a lot of people who can hit FTL speed guys then.

This was a more powerful Sentry because he was not holding bacl and was more confident.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Again if he can hit Sentry its arguable that he can hit Flash. 😐
Prove Sentry was moving faster than light.

In fact, there's more proof in the reverse, because everyone was watching, and even Hulk had time to say an entire sentence while Sentry was blitzing him at 'light speed' from a few hundred feet away.

Sentry went toe to toe with Hulk. He didn't display his speed at all, really.

He was even talking him in between punching and getting punched.

They showed regular humans running out of the way and shit, lol.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) Sentry flew in straight lines right at the Hulk, at speeds nowhere near whatsoever those attainable by Flash. There was no indication of what one would consider superspeed limb movement.
2) Sentry's other speed feats still suck compared to Flash's.

Flash raced death to the end of time and won.

Yep.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Again if he can hit Sentry its arguable that he can hit Flash. 😐
Again, Sentry WANTED to be hit!!!

What about all the times that Hulk has been warped by reality, transmuted and kept in damping fields???

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) Sentry flew in straight lines right at the Hulk, at speeds nowhere near whatsoever those attainable by Flash. There was no indication of what one would consider superspeed limb movement.

He said he wasnt holding back so we can assume it was at lightspeed. If Hulk had no problem hitting him you cant assume that he would be totally stumped if he moved around him.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

2) Sentry's other speed feats still suck compared to Flash's.

Flash raced death to the end of time and won.

Thats a specif cirumstance that does not apply to this situation.

Originally posted by Alfheim

If Hulk can resist reality warping, being shrunk, turned into stone, phasing something tells me that stealing his speed isnt just going to work. Common sense shows his body does not just work on a physical level.
His body obviously obeys the laws of motion through kinetic energy. He gets punched, kinetic energy is transfered through from the molocules of the one punching to Hulk's molocules, and he responds in symmetry by flying backwards.

People aren't listening to Alfheim here.

He doesn't believe that the Flash can steal the Hulk's speed, because the Hulk has resisted some weaker forms of matter manipulation. It's not that he doesn't understand, it's that he does NOT WANT TO.


Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) Sentry flew in straight lines right at the Hulk, at speeds nowhere near whatsoever those attainable by Flash. There was no indication of what one would consider superspeed limb movement.
2) Sentry's other speed feats still suck compared to Flash's.

Flash raced death to the end of time and won.

Really? lulz that must be DC death, cause I do know Marvel's Death is instantaneous.

Originally posted by llagrok
People aren't listening to Alfheim here.

He doesn't believe that the Flash can steal the Hulk's speed, because the Hulk has resisted some weaker forms of matter manipulation. It's not that he doesn't understand, it's that he does NOT WANT TO.

I believe Flash can steal some of Hulk's speed, but as Hulks source is unlimited, he can't drain it all.

Originally posted by Juntai
Prove Sentry was moving faster than light.

He said he wasnt holding back.

Holding back = charging somebody as slow as you can?

Originally posted by Juntai

In fact, there's more proof in the reverse, because everyone was watching, and even Hulk had time to say an entire sentence while Sentry was blitzing him at light speed from a few hundred feet away.

Sentry went toe to toe with Hulk. He didn't display his speed at all, really.

He was even talking him in between punching and getting punched.

They showed regular humans running out of the way and shit, lol.

This is absurd. You know the number of times ive seen characters talk while dodging bullets. So that means the bullets were so slow that they slowed down for the characters to speak.....gimmie a break

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Again, Sentry WANTED to be hit!!!

I think he just didnt care but if a character states that hes not holding back and charges a character im assuming he is not going to slow down. 😐

Originally posted by Da Pittman

What about all the times that Hulk has been warped by reality, transmuted and kept in damping fields???

LOL so because I said that he has resisted reality warping means that hes immune to it.