So what, Himo? His force drain would be different? I don't recall many hesitating when they met the exile.
And I'll remind you Luke doesn't need the Force to fight AT ALL. Without it, he's still fast enough to decimate armies...skilled enough too.
And Luke's Jedi have unearthed tons of old information. If the New Republic official records mention all of this in depth, you can bet Luke's Jedi know as well.
And for the last time: Nihilus's actions are gone 'in depth' in History of the Sith. And Luke is like nothing Nihilus has ever seen: He's faster, stronger and better with a defense against his ability. Nihilus would likely try to drain a disconnected Luke, fall to the ground weakned, where Luke would deliver the coup de grace.
Funny how you ignored the point made there. This galaxy knows what happens on Korriban between Naga and Ludo...you really think that with the sole surviving WITNESS to Katarr and Nihilus's servant rebuilding the order, that they wouldn't, y'know, record that?
It's an assumption. Not a good one either
njo does not own all infinity >.> i can prove him removing him self from the force wont effect a simple force drainm why?
because it back fired when he tried it on the exile and the exiles a WOUND. njo luke removing so is still whole not a wound so whats the point of doing so?
green lightning would get absorb because nihilus is a wound who consumes any form of the force.
so for the 7 matchs id say lighsaber battles = luke force = nihilus
and saber and force = hard 1, not sure
Originally posted by Lightsnake
So what, Himo? His force drain would be different? I don't recall many hesitating when they met the exile.And I'll remind you Luke doesn't need the Force to fight AT ALL. Without it, he's still fast enough to decimate armies...skilled enough too.
And Luke's Jedi have unearthed tons of old information. If the New Republic official records mention all of this in depth, you can bet Luke's Jedi know as well.
And for the last time: Nihilus's actions are gone 'in depth' in History of the Sith. And Luke is like nothing Nihilus has ever seen: He's faster, stronger and better with a defense against his ability. Nihilus would likely try to drain a disconnected Luke, fall to the ground weakned, where Luke would deliver the coup de grace.
Funny how you ignored the point made there. This galaxy knows what happens on Korriban between Naga and Ludo...you really think that with the sole surviving WITNESS to Katarr and Nihilus's servant rebuilding the order, that they wouldn't, y'know, record that?
It's an assumption. Not a good one either
Again, see another one of my arguments.
Read the thread. Unless your talking about the last battle, Luke can't "Run up and give the coup de grace" since it's force powers only.
No, I'll make clear to you, I was wrong. It wasn't because the Exile was disconnected from the force that Nihilius couldn't drain from him, it was because of the nature of Exile. Like I've been trying to get through in my other instances, the fact Nihilius is different is what makes him unpredictable. The Exile was a void in the force, and that was the reason why he couldn't be drained by Luke. (Which is retarded for both the Exile and Luke)
No, they probably wouldn't record how he did it for future Sith Lords to learn. Pick one source Voren or the Histroy of Sith. Since both are starting to contradict each other by the way you've been representing them to help your argument.
Voren mentions Nihilus in the NEC, albeit briefly as KOTOR 2 was just released. History of the Sith is more indepth on the matter...and for the record, HotS and its supplement Evil Never Dies, both of which have Ni in them, include in universe records.
I never said Ni would record it. However, he derived it from the ancients, hence Palpatine learning it. Luke's seen it from Palpatine. However, Nihilus and his abilities would be recorded considering Visas's efforts in the rebuilding. History is incredibly important to the Jedi, and two of the Jedi involved in rebuilding were historians...and if the Exile assists in the rebuilding. Hell, Mandalore was a witness as well, possibly other companions of the Exile if you discount the party system in gameplay
Originally posted by ESB Vader
njo does not own all infinity >.> i can prove him removing him self from the force wont effect a simple force drainm why?
because it back fired when he tried it on the exile and the exiles a WOUND. njo luke removing so is still whole not a wound so whats the point of doing so?green lightning would get absorb because nihilus is a wound who consumes any form of the force.
so for the 7 matchs id say lighsaber battles = luke force = nihilus
and saber and force = hard 1, not sure
In the force, Luke would be able to counter Nihilus...I'm tired of people saying he'll absorb force attack.s..he absorbs the force from living beings. I can eat steak. I don't eat it if it smacks me in the face. Luke HAS seen Nihilus's drain abilities and by now, in his full potential-strong as Anakin would've become- he's the absolute pinnacle of a Jedi...he's fast enough to slice Nihil into pieces before he has his saber drain.
And no, NJO Luke indeed> All. Cutting yourself off from the Force means you're a dead spot. There's nothing to drain. Luke also knows how to block force drain and such a thing would be useless if you couldn't react in time.
Nil's not infallible. He thought he'd killed Traya but she escaped him
Originally posted by ESB Vader
njo does not own all infinity >.> i can prove him removing him self from the force wont effect a simple force drainm why?
because it back fired when he tried it on the exile and the exiles a WOUND. njo luke removing so is still whole not a wound so whats the point of doing so?
Basically you answered that point yourself. The Exile was a wound in the force and because of that Nihilus attempt to drain him backfired instead of just having no effect.
The Exile was basical "negative force energy" so to say and Nihilus weakened himself through the draining attempt. If somebody doesn't have any force connection he logically can't be drained.
green lightning would get absorb because nihilus is a wound who consumes any form of the force.
Again: No. Nihilus had a natural talent for the draining ability and finally that ability basically took control over him. Kreia even say that there "is no power in that hunger" (or something like that). Nihilus is clearly no "wound" in the force but just possessed by a hunger that makes him consume force power.
That doesn't translate into being immune against force attacks. Even being a wound doesn't translate into being immune to force attacks given that the Exile could have been affected through the force.
So obviously Nihilus is not able to absorb force attacks.
u missed my point completely, nihilus is a wound in the force. kreia ingame said so. and nothing to drain u say lightsnake? what about life drain? and did u mention earlier the force is life? and removing the force from him is removing his life? what is ur point
even if luke removed himself from the force and got touched by the force drain, nothing happens to nihilus because lukes removal is not a wound but a temporary block out of the force.
and lightsnake u know how annoying it is u keep trying to put ur favourite characters on the top? and also it wont back fire on nihilus when he tried to drain luke
u might have missed kreia saying "hes a wound in the force"
luke cant be drained but he surely can be cut in half with a lightsaber while he removes himself from the force. clearly because if that is lukes first move he wont have time to even switch on his lightsaber.
so much has been written about luke and so little about nihilus yet which can put up a fight for luke.
i can see ur a hater of nihilus a complete hater of him, u dislike him in everyway and when ppl come up with CAnon info u try to argue with the facts lightsnake. i been reading ur posts many times and i know if ur fav character is losing ur gonna do what ever it takes to put him at the top.
am i doing it? no, people underestimate and they overrate other characters when in a match with nihilus. for instants, sidious and luke
Originally posted by ESB Vader
njo does not own all infinity >.> i can prove him removing him self from the force wont effect a simple force drainm why?
because it back fired when he tried it on the exile and the exiles a WOUND. njo luke removing so is still whole not a wound so whats the point of doing so?green lightning would get absorb because nihilus is a wound who consumes any form of the force.
so for the 7 matchs id say lighsaber battles = luke force = nihilus
and saber and force = hard 1, not sure
luke can go njo on nihilus' ass🙂
Originally posted by kamikz
Where did Kreia say Nihilus was a wound, I don't remember that.....And one more thing.... Nihilus drain only drains force. So the Exile is a wound, so his force connection cannot be touched. But his life wasn't drained at all, why? Because he existed outside of the force....
Kreia also says that: "there is no power in the hunger he possesses."
Implying that, in all actuality, Nihilus's hunger is so insatiable that it makes him powerless instead of powerful.
ESb Vader, do you just TRY to ignore everything or does it take a special skill?
What part of 'Luke is able to decimate armies without using the force' is alien to you? What part of instant fails you? Luke can do two things simultaneously, WOW! You think Luke's an idiot? Of course he'll be ready to fight and last I checked, Luke is MUCH faster and more agile than Nihilus with an incredible fighting style...plus disconnecting oneself and activating a saber at the same time? Instantaneous.
No, pal, I'm arguing from facts and what we know of the characters. You've shown little knowledge of them yourself and use terrible standards tod escribe them. You REALLY think Nihilus can take Luke with a saber? Honestly, is Luke so stupid he won't be able to PUSH HIS THUMB IN and use something that takes no effort in the force at all? Maybe you forget a little guy named Yoda who slammed a guy into a wall, lifted up Mace Windu and deflected a blaster bolt...all at once
well if nihilus throws his saber at luke andlukes first thing is too pull out his saber right? when he does that he has no time to create a lopp and nihils drains him. makes sense? to me yes to you lightsnake no
and no u guys dont want to accept the fact nihilus is a wound in the force, just go play the damm game again and listen to every convo