Hal has been having some pretty good showings since he created his own ring, though his power level seems to be pretty dynamic (as fits someone who's power level is a product of willpower). Still, I'm reticent to really rank him that much higher than classic Hal until he's really sustained a higher level of power for a longer time. In particular, I'd need to see Hal start showing up in comics with the likes of Orion, Superman, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, etc. and be explicitly presented as their equals or even superior in power. In the end, a hero's power rank is mostly determined by how he consistently ranks against other top heroes.
So I tend to still rank Hal below Superman and Surfer. That could change in time, though I'm skeptical DC will let Hal become truly elite top tier in the long term.
I give Superman a slight edge over Surfer 1v1, but they are typically in the same tier. However, Superman is more dynamic and more likely than Surfer to jump out of that tier--though Surfer does that sometimes as well.
The Runner is typically on a level slightly beyond the elite top tier for heroes.
So factoring that all in, I'm inclined to typically give the fight to the Marvel duo, but it's close. However, a fairly uber Superman portrayal--which happens decently regularly--could easily tip the fight in DC's favor, sometimes decisively.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Hal has been having some pretty good showings since he created his own ring, though his power level seems to be pretty dynamic (as fits someone who's power level is a product of willpower). Still, I'm reticent to really rank him that much higher than classic Hal until he's really sustained a higher level of power for a longer time. In particular, I'd need to see Hal start showing up in comics with the likes of Orion, Superman, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, etc. and be explicitly presented as their equals or even superior in power. In the end, a hero's power rank is mostly determined by how he consistently ranks against other top heroes.
You're talking the same since years and Hal is getting better and better feats since then.
Hal is explicitly more powerful since his classic days now.
This by Dan Jurgens himself who has written Hal in past.
So I tend to still rank Hal below Superman and Surfer. That could change in time, though I'm skeptical DC will let Hal become truly elite top tier in the long term.
I give Superman a slight edge over Surfer 1v1, but they are typically in the same tier. However, Superman is more dynamic and more likely than Surfer to jump out of that tier--though Surfer does that sometimes as well.
The Runner is typically on a level slightly beyond the elite top tier for heroes.
So factoring that all in, I'm inclined to typically give the fight to the Marvel duo, but it's close. However, a fairly uber Superman portrayal--which happens decently regularly--could easily tip the fight in DC's favor, sometimes decisively.
Your bias regarding Green Lanterns is fairly amusing to say. You're singing the same tune since forever.
Here, Hal is shown more powerful than either Zod or Orion.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hal 'God-Will' Jordan strikes again:
What's your excuse now?
Originally posted by carver9
Dark, who do you give the win too? See you pointed Pillow out but above his post, Panther said that either Superman or Hal solos. I'm guessing you believe this since you pointed out the person that went for team marvel? Share your thoughts.
Lol.
His entire post is predicated around the idea of "battle showings'.
You know MY stance on this. Of course I am going to point it out.
I don't care who wins here. And that includes team DC or team Marvel, lol.
Your mistake, as usual, is in thinking that I care about specific companies or characters. I gave Juggernaut the win over Superman yesterday, strange how you didn't pick that up.
I specifically named Captain America, a Marvel character, in my post....strange how you didn't pick that up.
I'm in your head, and it's so tiny I'm amazed you have space for any other thoughts.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're talking the same since years and Hal is getting better and better feats since then.Hal is explicitly more powerful since his classic days now.
This by Dan Jurgens himself who has written Hal in past.
Your bias regarding Green Lanterns is fairly amusing to say. You're singing the same tune since forever.
Here, Hal is shown more powerful than either Zod or Orion.
What's your excuse now?
