Originally posted by charlemagne9746pr beyonder was way above LT, even when pr beyonder was weakened, he was still more powerful than a room full of abstracts, including LT.
pre-retcon....i'd give the edge to the Beyonder...although I don't believe it would be a curbstomp. Pre-Retcon Beyonder and LT would be about the same power level, imo. Spectre, to me, has never proved to be an equal to LT. I think pre-retcon Beyonder may take it.
The anti monitor was powerful enough to collapse billions of universes. Only the spectre had the power to stop him. So yeah, The spectre when backed by the presence, is much more powerful than any version of the beyonder. The anti-monitor killed Billions of Universes. and the spectre stopped him in his tracks.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBeyonder can make universes, and he can also give a threat to destroy the multiverse in 24 hours, and mean it!!
The anti monitor was powerful enough to collapse billions of universes. Only the spectre had the power to stop him. So yeah, The spectre when backed by the presence, is much more powerful than any version of the beyonder. The anti-monitor killed Billions of Universes. and the spectre stopped him in his tracks.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The anti monitor was powerful enough to collapse billions of universes. Only the spectre had the power to stop him. So yeah, The spectre when backed by the presence, is much more powerful than any version of the beyonder. The anti-monitor killed Billions of Universes. and the spectre stopped him in his tracks.
sure. which means he collapsed the DC multiverse.. not its Megaverse which would include its subsidaries such as wildstorm...
Also Antimonitor was opposed by Spectre with the full backing of all magic in DC... Antimontior had to absorb his whole dimension to prevent getting defeated...
Beyonder never fought LT. LT was at home. His legs crossed and arms huddled over himself as he wet his pants.
Beyonder is the power of millions of multiverses...
Antimonitor was lucky to beat 1 multiverse.
The most powerful entities in DC gave Antimonitor a run for his money.
Noone that attempted to defeat Beyonder could do it. And the fights that happened wrecked the multiverse.
So let's say the presence tells the spectre that the beyonder is in the dc universe messing with stuff. Put him out. You have my full wrath. You really honestly think that the beyonder is going to win? Cuz basically ur saying that the beyonder would be above the presence. Who really is the one above all as well. At least that is my interpretation. That basically GOD. So ur saying that God gives the sprectre his wrath to destroy the beyonder, and he can't do it? You tread on blasphemy. 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlwe know that a full power spectre is on par with god, because....
So let's say the presence tells the spectre that the beyonder is in the dc universe messing with stuff. Put him out. You have my full wrath. You really honestly think that the beyonder is going to win? Cuz basically ur saying that the beyonder would be above the presence. Who really is the one above all as well. At least that is my interpretation. That basically GOD. So ur saying that God gives the sprectre his wrath to destroy the beyonder, and he can't do it? You tread on blasphemy. 🙂
Originally posted by rotiart
nope. beyonder wins. As long as its the presence of DC multiverse... and not DC megaverse... notice the difference.cause one would give spectre the power of the multiverse...
the other the megaverse...
multiverse<beyonder<megaverse
Now you have just gotten rediculous. There are beings in Dc that would eat the beyonder for breakfast. Like The ale entity. And he is still under the power of the presence. YOu guys make me sick. You act as if someone from marvel can go into the dc universe and write thier own rules. as long as the beyonder is a marvel character, he can't use marvel law to win a fight against another dc abstract. you have to go by the description of that character. if the presence is above everything that is dc, what makes the beyonder above his power? NOTHING but marvel fan head bull shit.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBeyonder isn't from the marvel universe, he has his own realm, the beyond realm.
Now you have just gotten rediculous. There are beings in Dc that would eat the beyonder for breakfast. Like The ale entity. And he is still under the power of the presence. YOu guys make me sick. You act as if someone from marvel can go into the dc universe and write thier own rules. as long as the beyonder is a marvel character, he can't use marvel law to win a fight against another dc abstract. you have to go by the description of that character. if the presence is above everything that is dc, what makes the beyonder above his power? NOTHING but marvel fan head bull shit.
Originally posted by bigbran
Beyonder isn't from the marvel universe, he has his own realm, the beyond realm.
He's just a marvel character, and laws are nothing to him.
he's a marvel property and as such, entering the dcu, he would be subject to the multiversal-mega dc versal presense. and the presense uses the spectre for his wrath. If that were the case, the ale would be unleashed upon the beyonder by the spectre and be done with it. the ale is beyond the dc universe. and it's description is much more powerful than the beyonders.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlyes, and sentry stalemated galactus.
he's a marvel property and as such, entering the dcu, he would be subject to the multiversal-mega dc versal presense. and the presense uses the spectre for his wrath. If that were the case, the ale would be unleashed upon the beyonder by the spectre and be done with it. the ale is beyond the dc universe. and it's description is much more powerful than the beyonders.