Spectre (Full Power) vs Beyonder

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
NO he was NOT!

Post retcon Beyonder was a cube beings. Cube beings are below the likes of Eternity and LT.

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And even less powerful than the Celestials:

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Go to the other thread I created and give imput!

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
... I think I speak for everyone when I say; you ****** ******* *** ****** ******* ****

1, Get it through your thick skull and into that little brain of yours.
-- Beyonder wasent a part of the Marvel Multi-verse.
Still he invaded MU Multiverse, and become all that was inside it, in other words God.

Where was it stated that he became all that was in the marvel multiverse? Show me.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He had the power of the writers, which also makes him God.
But that's not quite it. He could do the same thing to DC Multi-verse acording to Pre-ret Beyonder logic.

Where was it stated on panel that Beyonder had the power of the writers? 😂 Show me.

What evidence have you to claim that Beyonder could do such a thing in the DC creation?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And he would be able to take down TOAA, Presence and the Great Evil Beast, with just a smal portion of his power.
The Marvel Multiverse dint mean anything to Beyonder.
So woudlent DC.

If TOAA is Marvels supreme being, then all that exists within Marvel, all that is featured in a Marvel comic originates from it, that includes the Beyonder. All the Beyonder was as stated was an otherdimensional universe that lay beyond the Marvel multiverse.

Beyonder would not be able to take out any supreme being. By their very nature they are unsurpassable, completely infallible.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where was it stated that he became all that was in the marvel multiverse? Show me.

Where was it stated on panel that Beyonder had the power of the writers? 😂 Show me.

What evidence have you to claim that Beyonder could do such a thing in the DC creation?

If TOAA is Marvels supreme being, then all that exists within Marvel, all that is featured in a Marvel comic originates from it, that includes the Beyonder. All the Beyonder was as stated was an otherdimensional universe that lay beyond the Marvel multiverse.

Beyonder would not be able to take out any supreme being. By their very nature they are unsurpassable, completely infallible.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where was it stated that he became all that was in the marvel multiverse? Show me.

Where was it stated on panel that Beyonder had the power of the writers? 😂 Show me.

What evidence have you to claim that Beyonder could do such a thing in the DC creation?

If TOAA is Marvels supreme being, then all that exists within Marvel, all that is featured in a Marvel comic originates from it, that includes the Beyonder. All the Beyonder was as stated was an otherdimensional universe that lay beyond the Marvel multiverse.

Beyonder would not be able to take out any supreme being. By their very nature they are unsurpassable, completely infallible.

Originally posted by galan7777777
where does it show on pannel that he couldnt defeat TOAA? its a double edged sword

If TOAA is Marvels supreme being then that means that absolutely nothing can equal or surpass it. That is the very nature of a supreme being. If something could then they are not supreme beings. Its not a hard concept to grasp.

Beyonder was of marvel creation. He was a sentient universe that lay beyond marvels multiverse, thats all. Therefore he derived from Marvels supreme being, just like everything that is featured within a Marvel comicbook.

Originally posted by galan7777777
where does it show on pannel that he couldnt defeat TOAA? its a double edged sword

The beyonder was defeated. The Presence has NEVER been defeated. And since A full powered Spectre has the backing of the Presence, He could never be defeated if he is in the Presence's will. All things are according to the presence's will.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder was defeated. The Presence has NEVER been defeated. And since A full powered Spectre has the backing of the Presence, He could never be defeated if he is in the Presence's will. All things are according to the presence's will.

Originally posted by galan7777777
beyonder was defeated because he put limits on himself, and has any being aver batteled the presence? so you cant say nothing can beat him if its never be shown

ANyways, this is about Spectre.
Take that to the other thread.

Originally posted by Juntai
They tried, but the Presence is not a being, and they were simply halted and defeated, their powers removed, etc.

Originally posted by galan7777777
the beyonder has been shown accomplishing the same feats

Originally posted by Juntai
So has about a million other characters, what's your point? The Presence cannot be challenged by a simple creation. He is beyond all. He is a not a being that can be attacked and defeated.

Originally posted by galan7777777
and the beyonder can? when the beyonder was "defeated" its because he allowed himself 2b beaten by putting limits on himself

😆 😂 what are you trying to say that the beyonder is just as powerfull as TOAA?

Originally posted by sexyking
😆 😂 what are you trying to say that the beyonder is just as powerfull as TOAA?

Originally posted by sexyking
😆 😂 what are you trying to say that the beyonder is just as powerfull as TOAA?

Wow!! This thread's hilarious.I'm gonna have to hurry up with that Spectre V4..😂

Originally posted by Juntai
Yes, read the other thread. A few are saying Beyonder could beat the Presence AND Marvel's creator.

revived

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
1, Marvel have retconned Beyonder, the former version arent under their control anymore.
marvel cannot and will not revive him with the same powers.

If he needs to be revived that means he's in a negative state.

Though I'm going to have to disagree with the cannot part. They can do whatever they want in their book. And they don't need any reasons what so ever... Regardless of whether a person likes it or not.

First of all Pre rect Beyonder is trash he will never and never has been equal to TOAA/God/Presence. He was clumsy, dumb witted and was defeated by his own ignorance. How can anyone say hes equal to god when he half the time he doesnt what hes doing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder was defeated. The Presence has NEVER been defeated. And since A full powered Spectre has the backing of the Presence, He could never be defeated if he is in the Presence's will. All things are according to the presence's will.

Why he then strugled AM, what do you not understand, man, what, why did he strugle against AM, if he would be fully backed with The Presence?
And also The Presence said there is force beyond him.

Originally posted by Juntai
He is beyond all. He is a not a being that can be attacked and defeated.

The Presence is not beyond all. He said, I am Eternal and... but even I was shaped by external forces.

Pre-R takes this with extreme ease.