Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, at full power, the Spectre is waay beyond LT. At full power, the Spectre is the wrath of GOD himself. Basically he's like God's SHot Gun. Or Uzi. There is such a difference. At full power, he would be as might as God himself becuz in essence, he would be God's anger.
Originally posted by Juntaiwow! some people are way 2 obsessed! any wayz pre ret beyonder would win easily......post ret beyonder would be beaten
Says who?
It's a completely different character.You should try making a comparison between Spectre and not LT, to the Beyonder, which is where your opinion was based. Which is a bad idea altogether.
Originally posted by galan7777777You believe Beyonder could throw down with Gods own hand and win with ease? That he could somehow muster more power than God can impart an aspect of himself to an extent that he could accomplish it EASILY?
because preret was outside the multiverse and could do ANYTHING that he wanted to do and was also as powerful as he wanted 2 be (millions of times the power of the multiverse).........post ret was still part of the multiverse but not as powerful as spectre
Originally posted by galan7777777Sorry, wrong again. Spectre is above all of creation as a whole, not just the multiverse. He is the hand of the divine at 'full power'.
pre retcon yes! he wasnt part of the multiverse while spectre is........anything beyonder wished to do was done, such as killing death itself whom is one of the most powerful beings in the marvel universe, havent u seen the respect thread?
PS: I can't believe you just said that a character can muster up more power than God EASILY with exclamation points aftwards.
Originally posted by Juntaiits been shown beyonder was easily capable of the same thing, having been the one who was responsible for the path that banner took to get his hulk power, and every path he took after that......beyonder can win easily
Sorry, wrong again. Spectre is above all of creation as a whole, not just the multiverse. He is the hand of the divine at 'full power'. In fact, it has been on panel that he directs, consiously or otherwise, every being in creation on the paths they must take.PS: I can't believe you just said that a character can muster up more power than God EASILY with exclamation points aftwards.
Originally posted by Juntai
Sorry, wrong again. Spectre is above all of creation as a whole, not just the multiverse. He is the hand of the divine at 'full power'. In fact, it has been on panel that he directs, consiously or otherwise, every being in creation on the paths they must take.
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TGEB is equal only to God and way above Spectre.
He is considered as Thanos w/ HotU's eqal.
Basicly because they both have God's power and are evil.
Spectre Volume 4.
Hal Jordan/Spectre:
"It still astonishes me what I can do. This ability to take aspects of my own consciousness and give them form... And send them off across the universe. How is this possible?
It's not as if I understand the process: I just do it. Urge becomes thought, becomes manifestation. And each one of these reflections... each one of these others, is as much of me as I am.
Yet I remain to connected to them all. The controlling consciousness. Spectre Prime. Yet I don't feel as if I'm really controlling them. It's as if we're part of the cosmic tapestry-- carrying out the will of something -- someone-- far greater than all of us.
There are times I wonder if I'm not just one more reflection of a still-larger mind. That's waiting to call me home, and swollow me up.
Undream me.
And perhaps I am. What can identity mean, after all, when you've left the world of matter, of illusory between the spririt and flesh behind?
So I sail off across the Earth day after day, night after night, in more shapes and forms than I could ever count. Sail off to do what must be done in order to save the world one soul at a time.
Across the Earth and across the galaxies. For my work isn't limited to one planet, one culture, one small vision of reality. The Hand of The Divine reaches across space and time... across all the limitless planes of existance. And where he points. I follow....
..cajoling and caressing, exhorting and harassing, comforting and terrifying, doing whatever needs to be done... Whatever each individual heart requires.. to awaken the new universe, the new age of joy and miracles, that lies . . fully realized . . . all around us.
Just waiting for us to open our eyes.
And see it.".
Spectre is above creation as a whole. Even so much that at, as you can read, he helps lead every being in all of creation on the paths they must take to fullfill 'Gods Will".
Originally posted by Juntaithat was a bad arguement, none of the things that were talked about in this story are outside beyonders power, and its been shown http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html
Spectre Volume 4.Hal Jordan/Spectre:
"It still astonishes me what I can do. This ability to take aspects of my own consciousness and give them form... And send them off across the universe. How is this possible?
It's not as if I understand the process: I just do it. Urge becomes thought, becomes manifestation. And each one of these reflections... each one of these others, is as much of me as I am.
Yet I remain to connected to them all. The controlling consciousness. Spectre Prime. Yet I don't fell as if I'm really controlling them. It's as if we're part of the cosmic tapestry-- carrying out the will of something -- someone-- far greater than all of us.
There are times I wonder if I'm not just one more reflection of a still-larger mind. That's waiting to call me home, and swollow me up.
Undream me.
And perhaps I am. What can identity mean, after all, when you've left the world of matter, of illusory between the spririt and flesh behind?
So I sail off across the Earth day after day, night after night, in more shapes and forms than I could ever count. Sail off to do what must be done in order to save the world one soul at a time.
Across the Earth and across the galaxies. [b]For my work isn't limited to one planet, one culture, one small vision of reality. The Hand of The Divine reaches across space and time... across all the limitless planes of existance.
And where he points. I follow......cajoling and caressing, exhorting and harassing, comforting and terrifying, doing whatever needs to be done... Whatever each individual heart requires.. to awaken the new universe, the new age of joy and miracles, that lies . . fully realized . . . all around us.
Just waiting for us to open our eyes.
And see it.".
Spectre is above creation as a whole. Even so much that at, as you can read, he helps lead every being in all of creation on the paths they must take to fullfill 'Gods Will". [/B]
Originally posted by galan7777777The only bad arguement is you thinking Beyonder can muster more power than God with ease. lol.
that was a bad arguement, none of the things that were talked about in this story are outside beyonders power, and its been shown http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Marvel Zombies and beyonder worshippers are endless and ceaseless in thier crusade. Nothing in comics would ever be able to transcend the will of God, NOt even pre-retcon beyonder.
1, Get it through your thick skull and into that little brain of yours.
-- Beyonder wasent a part of the Marvel Multi-verse.
Still he invaded MU Multiverse, and become all that was inside it, in other words God.
He had the power of the writers, which also makes him God.
But that's not quite it. He could do the same thing to DC Multi-verse acording to Pre-ret Beyonder logic.
And he would be able to take down TOAA, Presence and the Great Evil Beast, with just a smal portion of his power.
The Marvel Multiverse dint mean anything to Beyonder.
So woudlent DC.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUa'men!
... I think I speak for everyone when I say; you ****** ******* *** ****** ******* ****1, Get it through your thick skull and into that little brain of yours.
-- Beyonder wasent a part of the Marvel Multi-verse.
Still he invaded MU Multiverse, and become all that was inside it, in other words God.
He had the power of the writers, which also makes him God.
But that's not quite it. He could do the same thing to DC Multi-verse acording to Pre-ret Beyonder logic.And he would be able to take down TOAA, Presence and the Great Evil Beast, with just a smal portion of his power.
The Marvel Multiverse dint mean anything to Beyonder.
So woudlent DC.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTULet's see how many people agree with that. I'll make the thread!
... I think I speak for everyone when I say; you ****** ******* *** ****** ******* ****1, Get it through your thick skull and into that little brain of yours.
-- Beyonder wasent a part of the Marvel Multi-verse.
Still he invaded MU Multiverse, and become all that was inside it, in other words God.
He had the power of the writers, which also makes him God.
But that's not quite it. He could do the same thing to DC Multi-verse acording to Pre-ret Beyonder logic.And he would be able to take down TOAA, Presence and the Great Evil Beast, with just a smal portion of his power.
The Marvel Multiverse dint mean anything to Beyonder.
So woudlent DC.
Originally posted by rotiart
Last seen version of Beyonder.. Post Retcon was still multiversal level
NO he was NOT!
Post retcon Beyonder was a cube beings. Cube beings are below the likes of Eternity and LT.
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3147346
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3147359
And even less powerful than the Celestials:
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3147502