Originally posted by Draco69
Astonishing X-Men - Wolverine. Beast would be second in line but his genius outclasses him....Fantastic Four - That's a toughie. They're all so integral to the team. I'd have to say the Human Torch. Thing is needed as a pure brawler and brick. But Johnny's powers aren't that special...
JLA - Batman. His genius is overrated. MM and Superman are smarter than him. Aquaman is the most powerful man on Earth politically. He rules 3/4s of it...
The Authority - Don't know much about them. But that girl with the wings seems pretty damn useless....
New Avengers - Ronin. Spider Woman. Luke Cage. They all seem so useless with Iron Man and Sentry on the team....
Teen Titans - To be absolutely honest, Wonder Girl. With Starfire on the team, she's already outclassed. Her only schtick was lassoing something and frying it with her magic lightening....
Originally posted by kenobi
In astonishing x-men-I would say wolverine, if you put aside his popularity, he is not needed on this team
In the original JLA- everybody knows that Aquaman is totally useless, why will people not admit this. Sure he rules the oceans but the bad guys do not care if he is a monarch. He only contributes to the team if they are fighting in the ocean.
In the FF- The Torch, but this team works well together. Johnny would be the only member that can be expendable.
The Authority- Do not know anything about them
New Avengers- Easily Spider-Woman, yes I know that ROnin has not appeared very much but she has more uses than Spider-Woman. She is a better fighter and a cooler character. Spider-Woman was always a jobber in Marvel and is just another Wasp .
Teen Titans- I would also say Wonder Girl. She is only on the team for nostalgia
Originally posted by Draco69
Noone cares about Aquaman...until he summons the largest army on Earth.Seriously Atlantis is the premier of magic on DC Earth and its vast resources far outstrip any other Leaguers except of WW and Green Lantern.
Batman's rich? Arthur's ten times richer. He has alchemists that makes gold out of seashells for him....
I disagree with Spider-Woman. She's one of the few Avengers who can fly and her phermones have already proven to be useful with the Wrecking Crew.
Ronin is useless. She's a ninja who couldn't handle a few ninjas. Captain America already fills the hand to hand combat expert bill. So does Wolverine who has FAR more resources about the Hand or Hydra than Ronin....
Originally posted by Creshosk
Out of curiosity how does the largest army on earth stack up against
"the threats they normally face. Like Imperiux. ... Or Superboy Prime. Or Mageddon. Or Abyss. "?
They turned back Imperiux from Atlantis. They also supplied Earth with magical artifacts powerful enough to destroy several Imperiux probes.
Aquaman's army also stopped WWIII in every nation. In a matter of minutes every country in the world was under Atlantean occupation in the Mageddon saga, thus allowing the heroes to finally focus on the larger threat.
Aquaman wasn't around to fight Abyss as he was occupied with the terriorial disputes between Japan and the Atlantean border.
Aquaman has more resources than almost every leaguer. Wealth, magic, political advancement allowing the JLA to act in countries they wouldn't be able to, and the last and final line of defense against a enormously powerful magical opponent.
Which is why Spectre went after Atlantis last....
Aquaman also provides telepathic buffers for J'onn.
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Basic military stratagem, acceptable loses. Or what we like to call.......Cannon fodder 😆 😆
They're not fish....
Ever played Oblivion or WoW?
Imagine an army with impenetrable armour, the ability to cast deadly spells, advanced technology capable of destroying cities with a single laser cannon blast and the backing of numerous Atlantean races that range from giant Godzilla sized henchmen to the ancient Titans imprisoned by Poseidon.
These aren't little mermen with spears....
Originally posted by Draco69I hope you don't feel like I was being sneaky, but it was nice to see that typed out as well for more defense against future people calling aquaman the most useless.
They turned back Imperiux from Atlantis. They also supplied Earth with magical artifacts powerful enough to destroy several Imperiux probes.Aquaman's army also stopped WWIII in every nation. In a matter of minutes every country in the world was under Atlantean occupation in the Mageddon saga, thus allowing the heroes to finally focus on the larger threat.
Aquaman wasn't around to fight Abyss as he was occupied with the terriorial disputes between Japan and the Atlantean border.
Aquaman has more resources than almost every leaguer. Wealth, magic, political advancement allowing the JLA to act in countries they wouldn't be able to, and the last and final line of defense against a enormously powerful magical opponent.
Which is why Spectre went after Atlantis last....
Aquaman also provides telepathic buffers for J'onn.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I hope you don't feel like I was being sneaky, but it was nice to see that typed out as well for more defense against future people calling aquaman the most useless.
That title goes to Lucid Lui.
But seriously, DC needs to give Aquaman an upgrade. A REAL upgrade.
That damn Superfriends cartoon scarred his character almost beyond repair....
Kudos Draco. Nice work defending Aquaman.
People don't understand that Atlantis is made up of many, many cities scattered all over the world. Cities where every single woman is an adept sorcerer (a large group of these woman put a hurting on a Millenium Giant), cities where they have an immense amount of high tech weaponry and so on and so forth.
Aquaman (when he's King) commands these cities.
Originally posted by Draco69People really shouldn't pay attention cartoons that old. OtTher than for humor and not taking the characters seriously.
That title goes to Lucid Lui.But seriously, DC needs to give Aquaman an upgrade. A REAL upgrade.
That damn Superfriends cartoon scarred his character almost beyond repair....
Re: Least useful...
Reposting OP with later added and more additional teams.
Characters on superhero teams range in powers, skills etc. So when taking into account the all-round abilities of characters which ones are least useful? Which team member could a team do without and still function perfectly well on the following teams:
Astonishing X-Men
Fantastic Four
The original JLA
The Authority
New Avengers
Teen Titans
The Inhumans
Runaways
Young Avengers
Alpha Flight
The Outsiders
Excalibur
JSA
Thunderbolts
Birds of Prey
For any of these it need not be the most recent incarnation of the team.
Some more:
Marvel's Illuminati
Great Lakes Avengers
Doom Patrol
Stormwatch
Defenders
New Warriors
Imperial Guard
Exiles
Squadron Supreme
X-Factor
Marvel's Illuminati - Umm... Dunno. The whole point of this group is that they all bring different things so no one here is useless, but i guess trying to beat up fellow members and threatening them all the time wouldn't be considered very useful, so yeah, i'll go with Namor.
Great Lakes Avengers - Flat Man.. maybe...
Defenders - Hulk.
Exiles - Spider-Man 2099
X-Factor - Rictor
Re: Re: Least useful...
Originally posted by xmarksthespotSome more:
Marvel's Illuminati
Great Lakes Avengers
Doom Patrol
Stormwatch
Defenders
New Warriors
Imperial Guard
Exiles
Squadron Supreme
X-Factor
Marvel's Illuminati : Xavier. He's powerless and even if had his telepathy, Doc. Strange can already provide that route.
Great Lakes Avengers: Flatman...
Doom Patrol: Bumblebee
Stormwatch: ???
Defenders: Hulk. Namor already provides brute strength. Hulk is also too damn unpredictable to be of use.
New Warriors: Turbine or Aegis. Aegis was pretty damn useless. He only had a forcefield...that protected himself...
Imperial Guard: ???
Exiles: Beak! Duh!
Squadron Supreme: Nighthawk.
X-Factor: Wolfsbane...
Originally posted by xmarksthespotAnd what with decimation and all what does he bring now?
Well the Illuminati was formed when Xavier was considered a highly formidable telepath, a prominent geneticist and mutants were a growing, powerful and influential community with him as something akin to the movement leader of that community so that would have been what he brought to the table.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A shiny bald head... other than that nothing... hell every mutant in the know about his questionable retcon-induced actions in the past all but hates him. He was kicked out of his own house.
Xavier's time has passed. He hasn't been a integral part of the X-Men for decades.
They should have just killed him off and let his X-Men carry on the dream.